Bob McGinn - Scout's Comments on Byron Jones

[Future]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet about this Jones pick, have you listen to him talk? If you are looking to add any nasty to the defense this isn't the guy. He seems like a guy who routinely mails out Just Because cards.

I know you're just trolling, more than anything, but he does play with a bit of an edge, regardless of how polite or whatever he may be.

 

[mahoneybill]

I think the worst case scenario is he's our new Darren Woodson.

And that would be great.

 

[tyke1doe]

I don't hate the pick, no. Malcom Brown would have been my selection.

Thanks.

 

[dbonham]

He can hang out in your pocket all the way up a go route and he plays against size very well. High points the ball and exploited opportunities when they were there. Showed great intelligence helping that guy out of bounds on the WR screen in Michigan. Not a cover 2 tackler, WRs catch him in his back pedal and keep him going backwards. Goes for the shins in the open field. He handled a pick play perfectly against someone (Michigan?) but was too much of a spectator on slants and in routes. I like him as a press cover 3 guy where no one will ever get by him, but needs help underneath and inside. I would have preferred Brown or Gregory but solid and unsurprising pick.

 

[Frozen700]

I understand he's a cowboy now, but all these scouts may not be off.

He may come in, work hard, and prove them wrong though. All I know is, anything is better than MO at this point.

 

[DFWJC]

Looking at McGinn's collection of scout's comments it just looks like the typical mixed bag of positives and negatives you'd expect for any guy drafted at the tail end of the 1st round. He looks like an incredible athlete who's athleticism still doesn't translate 100% on the field. I don't see that has a bad thing.

In terms of scouting reports, who knows. You provided the Richard Sherman example which is a great example of scouts being wrong. Here is another example of that from Bob McGinn's 2012 draft report:

Third-year junior. "Pure cover corner with great ball skills," Philadelphia GM Howie Roseman said. "They're so hard to find." Went to LSU as a WR but moved to CB in 2009, serving as a deep reserve, before teaming with Patrick Peterson in 2010 and then Tyrann Mathieu in '11. "The only thing that would stop him from being great is that he doesn't have a special catch-up gear," one scout said. "In terms of smoothness, athleticism, ball skills, hands, anticipation - he's really good." Started 26 of 33 games, finishing with 11 interceptions and 12 PBUs (passes broken up). Scored just four on the 12-minute, 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test but scouts say he has a reading disability and learns well in other settings. "He can pick it up," another scout said. "Great kid. Can't read very well. He doesn't take timed tests." Peterson, who had a superb rookie season for Arizona, scored nine the year before. Hails from Shreveport, La. "When I think of guys like Deion Sanders and Charles Woodson and Chris McAlister and Champ Bailey, those guys were a league above this guy," a third scout said. "He's not Patrick Peterson, either. He ends up on the ground some, and I've always been afraid of corners that fell out in space for no reason. But he's a solid cornerback in the NFL.​

That's Morris Claiborne.

Great stuff
Both the Sherman is JAG and Claiborne is supreme stuff should have people taking note

 

[LandryFan]

These guys all make me laugh. Read the scouting report on this multi time pro bowler as he was coming out of school:

Good intangibles that will help him mold into a contributing backup corner for a press-heavy team. However, he does not possess the natural coverage instincts, fluidity or burst to be considered a future starter. Is comfortable and capable in press man, using his size to disrupt receivers' releases off the line, but doesn't show enough make up speed to consistently recover when beaten. Awareness in zone and off-man are only adequate. Has average ball skills but some upside as a playmaker.

PS. The above report is on no other then Richard Sherman. Who turned out pretty good last time I checked.

Just for fun, who was the "scout" that came up with that brilliant analysis?

 

[AdamJT13]

These guys all make me laugh.

There's a big difference between scouts employed by NFL teams and guys writing scouting reviews for websites, you know.

 

[dallasdave]

Also clearly remember Mel Kiper dissing the pick of Darren Woodson -

I forgot about that, thanks could be useful in looking at Jones. I think it was a good pick at 27 myself.

 

[Alexander]

He can cover, just don't ask him to play zone.

That is a concern. Zone awareness is one area I have seen marked consistently as a negative on him. We will be playing a good bit of zone, no matter how much they talk about more press man.

 

[Reality]

I think the worst case scenario is he's our new Darren Woodson.

This was my thoughts when I watched his game videos.

 

[Alexander]

I think the worst case scenario is he's our new Darren Woodson.

If that is the case, begin his Cowboy career at FS and move on from Wilcox. Choose one or the other to give him an opportunity to master a position.

 

[khiladi]

I think the worst case scenario is he's our new Darren Woodson.

Worst? That's like the best..

 

[Moderately_Askew]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet about this Jones pick, have you listen to him talk? If you are looking to add any nasty to the defense this isn't the guy. He seems like a guy who routinely mails out Just Because cards.

So just because he is well spoken he does not play with an attitude? I am sure you would take Richard Sherman on this team.

 

[sureletsrace]

I don't hate the pick, no. Malcom Brown would have been my selection.

That's the nicest thing you've ever said about a CB.

 

[JPostSam]

5. BYRON JONES, Connecticut (6-0 ½, 199. 4.42, 1-2): Also posted a vertical jump of 44½ and had 33 on the Wonderlic.

 

[Risen Star]

That's the nicest thing you've ever said about a CB.

That was actually my scouting report for Deion Sanders. Don't hate the player. Tolerable pick.

 

[Oh_Canada]

That is a concern. Zone awareness is one area I have seen marked consistently as a negative on him. We will be playing a good bit of zone, no matter how much they talk about more press man.

Fortunately, we won't have to worry about Claiborne much longer.

 

[DBOY3141]

So just because he is well spoken he does not play with an attitude? I am sure you would take Richard Sherman on this team.

Troy Polumolu is very soft spoken. He worked out.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Ouch!

Not really fair when their pass rush has been MIA for years.

they should of taken pass rushers then