Bob Sturm: talk of Dak being untradeable is nonsense

[plymkr]

To be fair, teams can negotiate and agree to player trades before free agency starts, but they simply do not submit the paperwork to the NFL until that time.

That said, Dak has a no-trade clause so it is unlikely he would be traded.

As for releasing him, it is not realistic for the Cowboys to release Dak until after the 2023 season as the dead cap hit in 2023 would be huge.

If the Cowboys are smart, the best strategy would be to draft a high round quarterback and/or bring in a veteran quarterback to push Dak and/or compete for the starting job next season.

Yes, my dream scenario is drafting a guy now and cutting ties with Dak after next week.

 

[DandyDon52]

Don't you know you can just call 1-800-HOF-QB4U? It's so easy, anyone can do it to get a replacement QB.

they dont need a hof qb, just a better bus driver.

 

[Cowpolk]

Only way Dak is tradeable is if he agrees to it

 

[nobody]

Give he Hooker in the 2nd since he won't be playing this yr anyways with that acl. Let him get his body right, use the yr to work on his game and learn the system.

Disagree. I'm sick of rolling the dice on injured college players. We need a HEALTHY QB from the start because over time that wears on you. Look at Dak. Look at Romo.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I'd trade Zeke for 2 first round picks, then trade those 2 first round picks for 4 first round picks, next i would look to trade Boss man for Mahomes.... hire me for GM

With these moves yo would be voted GM of the decade.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Clarify for me. Are you saying you potentially keep him on the roster & pay him but sit him? Simply to avoid the "cap" hit portion of the equation if you released him or traded him?

Second question, I hear a lot of definitive statements that we are "stuck" with him next year due to the cap hit. I'm assuming that is correct. But is he moveable after the 2023 season? There seems to be differing opinions on that.

Just trying to make sure I understand your plan. Thanks.

Let's be clear here. No player is safe and you release anyone anytime.

Unfortunately there are consequences to decisions. It has been pointed out clearly in this thread what are the financial consequences and others have surmised what the on-field performance consequences are.

But the Cowboys are not stuck with any specific player. They are just stuck with the consequences of their decisions.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Got to do do something to break out of this groundhog day like cycle.

At times I wonder what a year with a Bill Parcells type of coach would do to the fortunes of this team.

No nonsense to the coaches. No nonsense to the players. No nonsense to the ownership group.

Maybe Dan Campbell will build his reputation as a HC, and eventually find his way to Dallas.

 

[Pass2Run]

Remember it was MM that pull the plug on Brett Fravr's career in Green Bay BUT he had a replacement. The point is if you are trading your starting with back-to-back 12-win seasons, you probably wanna have a better replacement in your pocket.

Yep, and that's why they need to take a chance on someone like Jaren Hall, someone they can legitimately draft—someone who at least has a chance to develop into something more than Dak.

Hall has all the tools Dak has, and then some. Great arm, great mobility, and doesn't turn the ball over a whole lot. The knocks on him are he's 25, and somewhat injury-prone. But I'd still say worth the risk, especially if they can land or deal on him in the 2nd. Dude has 1st round measurables....

 

[McKDaddy]

Let's be clear here. No player is safe and you release anyone anytime.

Unfortunately there are consequences to decisions. It has been pointed out clearly in this thread what are the financial consequences and others have surmised what the on-field performance consequences are.

But the Cowboys are not stuck with any specific player. They are just stuck with the consequences of their decisions.

Yeah, my questions were around the consequences. I was seeing differing accounts of the numbers and timing. So, I'm just trying to get as factual as possible so I can determine what path I would like to see us go.

 

[Pass2Run]

Dak has a no trade clause in his contract. Every day we have to say this simple simon reminder here.

I don't think Sturm understand this.

 

[diamonddelts]

At times I wonder what a year with a Bill Parcells type of coach would do to the fortunes of this team.

No nonsense to the coaches. No nonsense to the players. No nonsense to the ownership group.

Result = Another beating by Antonio Bryant.

 

[Pass2Run]

The smart move is to keep Dak for 2023, attempt to find his replacement either through the draft or free agency this off-season and go into the 2023 season with Dak knowing he has to perform well and limit his mistakes or the Cowboys might move on.

Either Dak gets over the hump and leads the team to a Super Bowl or he continues making the same mistakes and gives McCarthy and the Cowboys a justified reason to replace him during or after the 2023 season.

This is spot on.

Either way, I think you make a point to move on and start preparing for the post-Dak era right now.

And if you don't do that, then you should at least have an open competition in camp next year, just so Dak doesn't get comfortable, and stays on top of his game. He seems to do better with internal pressure as opposed to external, which he has not been able to handle well thus far.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Bench him and have him exercise his trade option.

So you're saying bench your starting QB of back-to-back 12 wins to force him to waive the no-trade clause? K.......NO coach, GM, or owner would do this, it's irrational. How fast do you think a coach would lose his team? Now those 12 wins may not mean much to you but I'm sure they carry a lot of weight with his teammates, a lot.

 

[Pass2Run]

People talk about all the things Jerry Jones did that was negative to this franchise.

Keeping Garrett for a decade as the head coach is far and away the biggest mistake he ever made.

He sacrifices a entire decade on a guy that was clearly terrible.

He was clearly terrible from his first year, so, yeah, I'm with you on this. I'm not really on the Jerry hate train lately. He's been doing a good job the past couple of years. In recent years, he's gotten back my attention when I kinda wasn't as serious of a fan as I once was. I like what he's done since hiring McCarthy, personnel-wise. I'm just not sure McCarthy is involved enough in the game-planning to really make a difference.

The team's philosophy has changed, and that's great. But I give more credit to McClay for that than anyone else.

 

[Pass2Run]

Yes, my dream scenario is drafting a guy now and cutting ties with Dak after next week.

You don't have to cut ties with him.

Dakup makes a fine backup.

 

[Motorola]

He mentions what it will cost the new team, but fails to point out what it will cost Dallas in dead cap. THAT is why he it’s extraordinarily unlikely he gets traded, even if Dallas wanted to.

Also, by rule you can’t trade him tonight, nor for another 7 weeks

I luv it when just regular fans know more about the NFL rules & regulations more\better than the sports media people...who supposedly should know most ..if not all.
'Aerolithe_Lion'...can you post a link to that nugget?

 

[Cowboys5217]

To me, Sturm only completed HALF of the assignment. The BIG QUESTION - what would the Cowboys’ cap hit be in the deal?

I expect better of Sturm. He's not only ignoring that he's also ignoring the no trade clause. People bring it up in his twitter thread and he just skips right over it.

 

[visionary]

Carr will not allow himself to be traded, he will wait to be cut..

it would be dumb for the same reason dak will force being cut to choose his own team vs trade to help an unappreciative team and fanbase. no waiting needed, Carr will NOT be traded.. NT clauses are real and can not be circumvenbted.,they burned a bridge with Carr and if not careful that will happen here. be careful what you wish for, get rid of top 10 qb 8th on the money list for what picks , picks dont win 12 game b2b seasons and 2nd round playoff berth unless you get extremely lucky. he is untradeable due to money and clauses.

anyone who thinks moving on from Dak as if a qb from the draft or 2nd tier FA pool could win a playoff game against the 9ers on the road with NO RUN GAME, POOR OL PLAY, POLLARD GETTING HURT AND MOORE CALLING PLAYS and playing a near perfect game like zero INTs etc is delusional.

blaming Dak alone for that loss is ridiculous. we have seen this past season and many others players like Allen and Lawarence have poor games and the TEAM WON anyway, we saw Bray throw 3 ints in an NFCCG and still win, we saw Stafford lead the league in INTS and throw TWO (2) in the SB and still win.. Hows Herbert allegedly much better then Dak do his fort 3 season now? his first playoff game?

its A team game and the Team also contributed to a slim 7 point loss.not just dak.,

Give dak better run game and bit better protection, better play calls, and say Diggs makes those 2 plays, we win. or if schultz doesn't have 2 mental mistakes on the last drive or Gallup makes a better effort to not let that ball be intercepted instead of just watching the defender make effort to do so,

I remember how long between Aikman and romo to find even a quality qb and how tough that was to watch, well its why Daks stil here and sitl our best option for now. even the beter qbs lie top 5 in pay didnt make the playoffs, others made mistakes in the playoffs, most according to this place are better, sure they are ...

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The reason Dak will agree to a trade rather than a cut is pretty simple. He’s way over pain currently based on his level of play. No team will pay him 40 million/y

 

[gimmesix]

He mentions what it will cost the new team, but fails to point out what it will cost Dallas in dead cap. THAT is why he it’s extraordinarily unlikely he gets traded, even if Dallas wanted to.

Also, by rule you can’t trade him tonight, nor for another 7 weeks

Right. Dead cap hit for getting rid of him is twice as much in 2023 than they would pay to keep him. Even if you split it over two seasons, that's $44 million per year. 2024 is more realistic if the team comes up short again. Cutting or trading him then nets a $12 million caps savings.

Ideally, you do like your team did, draft a QB fairly early and give Dak one more year to show he can do it. Conversely, we cut him after 2023, draft a first-round rookie and then have to play him whether he's ready or not.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The smart move is to keep Dak for 2023, attempt to find his replacement either through the draft or free agency this off-season and go into the 2023 season with Dak knowing he has to perform well and limit his mistakes or the Cowboys might move on.

Either Dak gets over the hump and leads the team to a Super Bowl or he continues making the same mistakes and gives McCarthy and the Cowboys a justified reason to replace him during or after the 2023 season.

This is smart but it won't be easy, but it probably shouldn't be. I'm not sure Jerry, Stephen, and MM are anywhere close to thinking about any other option at QB other than Dak. This is just me but our vision of Dak as fans comes nowhere near their vision. He's their franchise QB with $100M+, with back-to-back 12-win seasons, and 7 years invested. I think their mindset is he got us within one game of NFCCG and 2 games of the Super Bowl. How do we close the gap? I think Parcell hit the nail on the head, go back to being a run-first team.

I agree I would also go after his possible replacement via draft or free agency.....but I don't them doing it.