Bobby Carpenter inactive AGAIN

[Eddie]

Didn't Bradie James have 1 tackle his rookie year or something? Now look at him. Get some perspective, people.

Wasn't Bradie James a 4th round draft pick?

Big difference when you're dealing with 1st rounders.

 

[Tass]

Wasn't Bradie James a 4th round draft pick?

Big difference when you're dealing with 1st rounders.

I don't think we were as loaded at LB when we drafted James.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Guess who had 2 sacks today?

 

[Galian Beast]

Yeah, but will Ellis and Singleton still be Cowboys next year?

Carpenter is definitely the future at SOLB.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ellis gets a contract extension. Singleton is probably gone at the end of the year.

As for Carpenter obviously people are dissapointed that he isn't dressing when people like Oliver Hoyte are. It's one thing that he doesn't start, but not to dress at all. It leaves a bad taste in theirs mouthes. I'm willing to wait. And see how he progresses, just as I did with Bradie James and Kevin Burnett.

My advice to those who want instant gratification to simply cool it, rather than jumping off bridges once again.

Do you guys remember when Parcells told Gurode that he wasn't going to let him fail. And look at Gurode now. He is having a hell of a year, as is our offensive line.

It isn't just about Bobby Carpenter. It's also about the depth. How much change over has our linebacker corps seen this year? Where is Fujita, Shanle, hell even free agent pick up Rocky Boiman...

Soon there will be a time where Carpenter is backing up both Ayodele and Ellis. Parcells is going to want to extend the careers of both Ellis and Ware. And that will have a lot to do with Burnett and Carpenter.

As for the offensive line, Parcells has surprised everyone with what he was ability to accomplish with the offensive line.

Gurode is playing well, as is Colombo. And Rivera and Adams are playing close to their expectations. Kosier has been a pleasant surprise.

 

[Qwickdraw]

he's a bust.

 

[Bizwah]

Alrighty then......

Who should we have picked then?

A WR?

Would a WR be playing right now?

An OL?
An OL would've been nice, but would one be playing now? Sure, we'd have some nice depth....but I think we'd be in the same boat.

DL?
Safety?
CB?
RB?
QB?
TE?

Name one area where a first rounder would be starting over what we have. There's a possibility on the OL, but you know how Parcells loves vets on the OL.

Seriously, name me a player and I'll be glad to share your lament.

I'm disappointed that Carpenter isn't making more of an impact too, but it tells you something about our team's LB corps when a first round pick can't see the field.

 

[LatinMind]

To me it's a good thing. We're so loaded at LB that our top pick must wait his turn. Burnett and Jame were on it today. Singleton caused VY to fumble. But I am a little disappointed that Ware's name wasn't mentioned more, if you know what I mean.

so when does carpenter get to play? everybody is young, and i think next yr u will see burnett and ware man the outside, that is if ellis isnt brought back..but is there really a need to get rid of ellis? hell no, he knows he'll have more value in dallas then anywhere else in the league..33 next yr? play out his contract and ride the horse home..

carpenter might just be what history has held for ohio sate lb'ers..BUSTS!!

anybody heard from aj hawk?

 

[BrassCowboy]

now let's apply the same logic to the OL. i'd say you could make an argument there also.

again, i'm not bagging on carpenter. we've got him i hopes he does in fact turn out to be a player. but to see a 1st round pick do nothing for 3 games is just going to draw it's share of ?'s.

that is the way it used to always be where the first round pick would not play much the first year, but since salary cap and free agency have teams not been able to afford to sit players out hence playing high picks more and more the first year.

We have the luxury of sitting out Carpenter and allowing him to learn the position with all the "better" players starting right now. Carpenter will get his shot, but we have the luxury of not forcing it right now.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

but when a 1st rounder is perfectly healthy and he's not deemed good enough to suit up on Sundays, it's a disappointment.

it sure is, but there are extinuating circumstances as to why

 

[Bob Sacamano]

just not sold on drafting players we don't need to hope one day they'll pan out.

going into the draft we needed an OLB, fortunately he was already on the roster (Ellis), we just didn't have any idea at the time

 

[Natedawg44]

Alrighty then......

Who should we have picked then?

A WR?

Would a WR be playing right now?

An OL?
An OL would've been nice, but would one be playing now? Sure, we'd have some nice depth....but I think we'd be in the same boat.

DL?
Safety?
CB?
RB?
QB?
TE?

Name one area where a first rounder would be starting over what we have. There's a possibility on the OL, but you know how Parcells loves vets on the OL.

Seriously, name me a player and I'll be glad to share your lament.

I'm disappointed that Carpenter isn't making more of an impact too, but it tells you something about our team's LB corps when a first round pick can't see the field.

Davin Joseph

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Agreed. He should be able to beat someone, any of our LBs out. He is having problems beating out undrafted LBs to dress. You can't spin that, our LBs are good, but not that good.

the reason he hasn't beat out Hoyte to be active is because Hoyte is a better special teamer, not necessarily the better LB

and even then he's not so hot in that area

 

[Bob Sacamano]

now let's apply the same logic to the OL. i'd say you could make an argument there also.

not really, cuz that Olineman we would have taken on the 1st day would be inactive as well

 

[iceberg]

going into the draft we needed an OLB, fortunately he was already on the roster (Ellis), we just didn't have any idea at the time

then that would explain why so many were saying we just drafted BPA, not for need. then again i'm tired of that debate so i'll probably be sorry i brought it up.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Davin Joseph

he'd be sitting behind Kosier and Rivera

 

[iceberg]

not really, cuz that Olineman we would have taken on the 1st day would be inactive as well

"the argument" is really which was a bigger "need" - LB or OL - not really who'd be starting where.

BZ was saying LB was a glaring need due to all these ?'s running around. all i said was that we had just as many if not more ???'s on the OL but since BP is a "love me some LB!!!" kinda guy, we'll default to his preferences.

 

[Natedawg44]

not really, cuz that Olineman we would have taken on the 1st day would be inactive as well

Not necessarily. It doesn't take a big leap of faith to see that Davin Joseph could have beaten out one of our guards.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

then that would explain why so many were saying we just drafted BPA, not for need. then again i'm tired of that debate so i'll probably be sorry i brought it up.

it was a need pick, doesn't anyone remember Jerry's comments about it after the draft? they wanted an OLB that was big enough to hold his own against the run opposite Ware, and again, that player was already on the roster, we just weren't sure of it at the time

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Not necessarily. It doesn't take a big leap of faith to see that Davin Joseph could have beaten out one of our guards.

our OGs are playing pretty well

 

[Natedawg44]

He won a starting job right off the bat for a playoff team last year. Stating that he would automatically sit behind Kosier and Rivera is giving those guys WAY too much credit.