Bobby Carpenter Interview - 4/16/08 w/recap

[aikemirv]

I know your joking but.

Why would anyone even consider that. Fasano is better than people think and carpenter hopefully will improve this year. They are both under contract and play special teams and are only going into their third year. Why would you move either of them.

They are not expensive. Seems like a good situation to me.

Well, I would move them because I think Curtis can do what Fasano does and I think Carpenter is just too slow personally, and with pick #32 you could get a very good prospect. The funny thing is that I bet BP and Ireland would not do the deal and they are responsible for drafting both of them.

 

[theebs]

Well, I would move them because I think Curtis can do what Fasano does and I think Carpenter is just too slow personally, and with pick #32 you could get a very good prospect. The funny thing is that I bet BP and Ireland would not do the deal and they are responsible for drafting both of them.

For how long are people on this board going to gripe about draft picks that parcells made that did not turn out to be superstars? I think his drafts and his offseasons made this team pretty good. Feel free to argue that, but if mike zimmer had been hired instead of parcells we are still 5-11 hoping to find good players most likely and probably dont have a number of the great players we have on this team right now.

Its funny around here people always talk about jimmy johnson's great moves but never the bad ones, but parcells only gets credit for the poor drafts. Doesnt make sense.

 

[aikemirv]

For how long are people on this board going to gripe about draft picks that parcells made that did not turn out to be superstars? I think his drafts and his offseasons made this team pretty good. Feel free to argue that, but if mike zimmer had been hired instead of parcells we are still 5-11 hoping to find good players most likely and probably dont have a number of the great players we have on this team right now.

Its funny around here people always talk about jimmy johnson's great moves but never the bad ones, but parcells only gets credit for the poor drafts. Doesnt make sense.

I really don't have a problem with his drafts at all. I am happy with most of his picks in reality. I don't like the Fasano pick because with Witten, it was not necessary to spend a 3rd on a 2nd TE at that point in time.

Carpenter, while I guess many on this board were against it from day 1, I can't say that I watched him play in college to know whether it would have been good orr bad. It looks as if now he was just a product of a dominant team. Ever since he stepped on an NFL field he has looked slow and out of place though - it is a shame really, he did play well in that playoff game against Seattle so maybe there is hope though.

 

[theebs]

I really don't have a problem with his drafts at all. I am happy with most of his picks in reality. I don't like the Fasano pick because with Witten, it was not necessary to spend a 3rd on a 2nd TE at that point in time.

Carpenter, while I guess many on this board were against it from day 1, I can't say that I watched him play in college to know whether it would have been good orr bad. It looks as if now he was just a product of a dominant team. Ever since he stepped on an NFL field he has looked slow and out of place though - it is a shame really, he did play well in that playoff game against Seattle so maybe there is hope though.

Year carpenter is a total mystery. He played well against the eagles and then the seahawks but that is really all we have to fall back on.

Hopefully he was hurt last year and that is what was slowing him down. He looked dreadful against the vikings in the preseason last year.

 

[Redball Express]

IMO..Wade and the defensive coaches need to correct the mistakes that were made with him as our #1 pick under BP.

This is a monumental mistake of drafting this guy and not getting him out there and starting him somehow.

And I was disappointed in Phillips for not getting this whole situation re-tracked and functional.

While we all salivate about having 2 #1's this April in this upcoming draft..

Carp is a sobering warning about how a team can completely miss on a pick that was projected as a can't-miss selection for a position of need.

Missing on him caused us to have to redo the pick last year with taking Spencer. So it's now cost us 2 #1's to make up for Carp not being successful.

This completely holds back the team. Now we are having to use our #1's this year to go after a RB, CB and WR.

If we hadn't blown the Carp selection, who knows, we could have already drafted the CB or RB or WR we are now looking for so desparately this April and reduced the pressure on the draft that all three picks now must produce and produce immediately or we will have problems.

I'm still totally unclear about why Carp isn't measuring up. I'm still unclear about how BP and Ireland could have mis-read the player this badly.

It's a major black-mark on BP's Cowboy blotter.

I'll bet they aren't playing up Carpenter's blown selection in Miami too much with them having the #1 pick in 2 weeks.

If BP blows it as badly this year with their #1 pick as he did with Carpenter..he and Ireland will be set back a couple of years in building that team.

No pressure there..huh..?

:starspin ReDBaLL ExPreSS:starspin

 

[big dog cowboy]

How about this:

Carpenter and Fasano to Miami for their 2nd round pick?

How about "No"

 

[theogt]

Well, I would move them because I think Curtis can do what Fasano does and I think Carpenter is just too slow personally, and with pick #32 you could get a very good prospect. The funny thing is that I bet BP and Ireland would not do the deal and they are responsible for drafting both of them.

Curtis can't block for squat and Carpenter is 260+ and runs a 4.6.

Ireland would jump on that trade like nobody's business.

 

[burmafrd]

Talk about over reaction,
Redball, take a pill and settle down.

 

[QT]

Nguyen is the assistant LB coach...

 

[aikemirv]

Curtis can't block for squat and Carpenter is 260+ and runs a 4.6.

Ireland would jump on that trade like nobody's business.

That 4.6 speed does not show on the field, period.

I bet they would not jump on it, but we will never know I guess. Carpenter has seen the field the eqiuivalency of a 3rd or 4th round pick.

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

And when Carpenter gets in the game and starts performing at a high level all of his doubters will be saying they wanted him in the game all along. Same way i saw alot of people do Romo.

Bunch of flakes in this place. Do your thing Carp! I know i saw him doing quite well before the last preseason game. Guess he didn't "earn" playing time. I sure dont remember Burnett doing anything.

 

[theogt]

That 4.6 speed does not show on the field, period.

I bet they would not jump on it, but we will never know I guess. Carpenter has seen the field the eqiuivalency of a 3rd or 4th round pick.

Absolutely his speed shows on the field. His problem isn't speed at all. It's timidity and hesitation. That might be mistaken for a lack of speed, but athleticism is not a problem for Carpenter.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Good stuff. Thanks for the recap, SP.

That's very encouraging that Bobby says Wade is expressing that much confidence in him. I hope that's the truth and not just a sales job. But if it is true, that's a great sign for everyone involved.

One thing that needs to happen, and it sounds like maybe it will, is that Carp needs to be at the Mo backer and not the Mike. He's not going to unseat Bradie there, and he's not physical enough to play that spot anyway. His answer about Zach helping him out might suggest that the coaches are already thinking that way.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Absolutely his speed shows on the field. His problem isn't speed at all. It's timidity and hesitation. That might be mistaken for a lack of speed, but athleticism is not a problem for Carpenter.

This is a true statement IMO. The problem is that he doesn't have the speed and quickness to compensate for the fact that he is not very physical. Don't get me wrong, physical is a relative thing according to what defensive scheme you play. If your LT or Derrick Thomas, then you can probably get away with not being as physical. But if you don't have that kind of atheleticisam, then your going to have to be a physical player in a 34. Especially as an ILB. I have said this several times but it is worth saying again. I believe that Carpenter has the talent to play at a high level in the NFL. Just not convinced that it is in a 34. He needs to be playing in a 43. If he played for Tampa Bay or maybe Chicago, he would be a star IMO. I just think the scheme is all wrong for him and the best thing for everybody is to move him to a team that can take advantage of his skills. He does have skills. They just don't fit our scheme IMO.

 

[theogt]

This is a true statement IMO. The problem is that he doesn't have the speed and quickness to compensate for the fact that he is not very physical. Don't get me wrong, physical is a relative thing according to what defensive scheme you play. If your LT or Derrick Thomas, then you can probably get away with not being as physical. But if you don't have that kind of atheleticisam, then your going to have to be a physical player in a 34. Especially as an ILB. I have said this several times but it is worth saying again. I believe that Carpenter has the talent to play at a high level in the NFL. Just not convinced that it is in a 34. He needs to be playing in a 43. If he played for Tampa Bay or maybe Chicago, he would be a star IMO. I just think the scheme is all wrong for him and the best thing for everybody is to move him to a team that can take advantage of his skills. He does have skills. They just don't fit our scheme IMO.

Well, I agree to an extent. I think his biggest problem is that he just doesn't know what the heck is going on sometimes, or he's too late to recognize it. Which is sort of a problem because he was thought to be a "football player" coming into the draft. I don't think that would change whether he's in a 3-4 or a 4-3.

His recognition and/or timidity is something that can be improved upon drastically. Heck, if you look at that Seattle playoff game, it was almost completely gone. He played instinctual and aggressive. He just sort of "popped." If we can get that sort of play at the ILB position, he could be a pro bowl level player, I think.

 

[Hostile]

And when Carpenter gets in the game and starts performing at a high level all of his doubters will be saying they wanted him in the game all along. Same way i saw alot of people do Romo.

Bunch of flakes in this place. Do your thing Carp! I know i saw him doing quite well before the last preseason game. Guess he didn't "earn" playing time. I sure dont remember Burnett doing anything.

This place? Amigo it's like that all over the NFL, NBA, NHl, and MLB. The word fan is short for "fanatic" which means that rational thought need not always apply.

I promise you every Cowboys website you go to has Carpenter fans and haters, Roy fans and haters, and on down the line for every player. It is the reactionary nature of the fans.

 

[Wimbo]

This place? Amigo it's like that all over the NFL, NBA, NHl, and MLB. The word fan is short for "fanatic" which means that rational thought need not always apply.

I promise you every Cowboys website you go to has Carpenter fans and haters, Roy fans and haters, and on down the line for every player. It is the reactionary nature of the fans.

I am a big fan of this comment. I always have been. I don't have time to look it up now, but you will find a post from me back in 2005 saying how much I liked this comment. You heard it here first. It's about time the rest of you caught on...

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

This place? Amigo it's like that all over the NFL, NBA, NHl, and MLB. The word fan is short for "fanatic" which means that rational thought need not always apply.

I promise you every Cowboys website you go to has Carpenter fans and haters, Roy fans and haters, and on down the line for every player. It is the reactionary nature of the fans.

My issue is with the people with agendas against Carp. He hasn't done anything in Dallas but play well in every game he's played in except the one against Minnesota when he was hurt. Thats justification to call him a "bust"? The logic is just dumb. All i know is he played alot better than anybody else on defense against Seattle in the PLAYOFFS. Ayodele and Burnett were invisible against the Giants, and i mean invisible. If you dont like Carp because you wanted some other person to be drafted thats fine. But dont say you dont like him because hes not good, because when he has played in the little he has i notice him alot more than i do Ayodele or Burnett. Go back and watch the preseason games before the Minnesota game. Carpenter will be a good player for somebody. It's obvious to me atleast.

 

[aikemirv]

And when Carpenter gets in the game and starts performing at a high level all of his doubters will be saying they wanted him in the game all along. Same way i saw alot of people do Romo.

Bunch of flakes in this place. Do your thing Carp! I know i saw him doing quite well before the last preseason game. Guess he didn't "earn" playing time. I sure dont remember Burnett doing anything.

I am sorry, but calling people flakes for being dissapointed in the Carpenter pick/player is also very extreme. I am not one to be down on the player themselves for not playing up to the position they are drafted - a lot of times that is not their fault - it is just where they were picked - they can't do anything about that.

But to say fans are flakes for having an issue with the 16th pick not playing substantive downs in 2 seasons is well.......... flakey!!! You should not have to be implementing the 3 year rule for a 1st round draft choice.

I hope he truns the corner - nothing against him at all - but it is not promising at this point!

 

[FCBarca]

Just has felt like bust has been written all over this guy since the day he was drafted and then subsequently never played...As a 1st round pick!!!

Hope he materializes into something but let's face it, it's an uphill battle to remove that bust label.