Bobby Wagner re-signs with the Seahawks

[CalPolyTechnique]

The Cowboys are running a business under a salary cap, first and foremost. They made the wiser choice. They already have made some very big pickups in free agency to help the team win right now, but they also have to wheel-n-deal under a limited amount of money left in the bank. LVE played well enough to be brought back. I bet Wagner asked for much more than $7 mil/season to come to Dallas. Jerry made the hard but correct decision.

With fans like this, who actually needs to win.

 

[Captain-Crash]

jerry said he went a third in, so get off his back. We like our glass neck guy, heck we liked out a straight line, jump on the back of the run ten yards down the field guy too. sheesh, we should reunite peg leg with us.

 

[Captain-Crash]

With fans like this, who actually needs to win.

well, dak needs more money we don't care if we could have got a better lb than glass neck.

 

[TheCritic]

With fans like this, who actually needs to win.

Actually, America's Cowboy post makes perfect sense. Cowboys fans who thought we were going to get Wagner were living in a fantasy world. Wagner wanted to resign with Seattle and took a discount to do so, pure and simple. Besides the Cowboys addressed this with resigning LVE and appear to be confident that Damone Clark will be better in his 2nd season and further removed from his injury. You don't have to agree with their decision. Just accept it for what it is.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Actually, America's Cowboy post makes perfect sense. Cowboys fans who thought we were going to get Wagner were living in a fantasy world. Wagner wanted to resign with Seattle and took a discount to do so, pure and simple. Besides the Cowboys addressed this with resigning LVE and appear to be confident that Damone Clark will be better in his 2nd season and further removed from his injury. You don't have to agree with their decision. Just accept it for what it is.

Thank you. Well stated.

 

[USArmyVet]

LVE 2 years $8M

Wagner 1 year $7M


While we may never know the truth in terms of any Dallas involvement and why Wagner accepted only a 1-year deal at $7M, on face value Dallas should have been in on this deal and easily could have matched or improved that deal.

 

[phildadon86]

$2 million saved? Try much more.

Wagner gave his old team a home discount by accepting to play for $7 mil. Pretty sure he was asking for around $10 mil/year from the Cowboys. Instead, the Cowboys resigned LVE for 2 years for a total of $8 mil which comes out to $4 mil/year.

$4 mil/year -vs- $10 mil/year on a 2 year deal?

That comes out to a savings of $6 mil/year and a total of $12 mil for 2 years to keep LVE over Bobby Wagner. That's a huge cap space difference in savings.

And production. And i said 2 million. Because if the Cowboys offered Wagner 1 year at 10 million. Which is probably what it would have costed.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Actually, America's Cowboy post makes perfect sense. Cowboys fans who thought we were going to get Wagner were living in a fantasy world. Wagner wanted to resign with Seattle and took a discount to do so, pure and simple. Besides the Cowboys addressed this with resigning LVE and appear to be confident that Damone Clark will be better in his 2nd season and further removed from his injury. You don't have to agree with their decision. Just accept it for what it is.

No, you’re treating your unsubstantiated opinion (that he was always going to go to Seattle) as fact and using it as a basis to rationalize what our FO is doing (or didn’t do in this case).

 

[fivetwos]

Cards want a 2nd, 3rd and a 4th.

You willing to draft at 26 and then wait until the fifth round to pick again?

I knew they wanted a “high pick” but didn’t hear about this.

That’s insane by a wide margin.

 

[WillieBeamen]

If, you actually watched Wagner play last year, his stats were much better than his play suggests. He can't run anymore and his game is totally dependent on his great instincts and experience. He had 140 tackles but most were 5-7 yards to field. He had 140 tackles but, partially because he could not get to place in time to keep the runner from converting 1st downs. That gave him more opportunities to be in on tackles.

At this point, I would take Leighton over Wagner all day long.

Leighton can cover more ground and will be in his 3rd year with Dan Quinn. My only concern is Leighton's ability to stay healthy.

If, you think I'm full of B.S., he was a free agent and any team could have signed him and a 1 year $7 Million contract was the best he could get.

LOL

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

If, you actually watched Wagner play last year, his stats were much better than his play suggests. He can't run anymore and his game is totally dependent on his great instincts and experience. He had 140 tackles but most were 5-7 yards to field. He had 140 tackles but, partially because he could not get to place in time to keep the runner from converting 1st downs. That gave him more opportunities to be in on tackles.

At this point, I would take Leighton over Wagner all day long.

Leighton can cover more ground and will be in his 3rd year with Dan Quinn. My only concern is Leighton's ability to stay healthy.

If, you think I'm full of B.S., he was a free agent and any team could have signed him and a 1 year $7 Million contract was the best he could get.

Luuulz, so Wagner was apparently making tackles 5-7 yards down the field because he couldn’t run anymore…

So what was LVE’s excuse?

 

[DUO_CORE]

I just cannot understand how these players can keep turning down Stephen's vet minimum prove-it -chance to be a Cowboy, deals!

 

[Malhavoc]

So the Cowboys and no other teams offered Wagner more money. OR they did offer him more but he decided he would go back to Seattle ?

 

[Rayman70]

this is what he(Wags) always does. Leverages himself using Dallas when all along he had his eyes on Seattle. Its business. He did this last year thinking the Rams were loaded and ready to repeat, so he floats Dallas as a place he wanted to sign. We fall for this every year. The media always fall for it because it gets clicks/ratings. Now with Beckham he did this because he wants the bag. But it has backfired.

 

[Rayman70]

So the Cowboys and no other teams offered Wagner more money. OR they did offer him more but he decided he would go back to Seattle ?

he used Dallas to up the Anty in Seattle and they bit. He never really wanted to be in Dallas.

 

[Rayman70]

I just cannot understand how these players can keep turning down Stephen's vet minimum prove-it -chance to be a Cowboy, deals!

Its not even that. Its that they just use the Dallas Brand to garner interest so they can get paid somewhere. He was never coming here. Its dirty, but its business.

 

[Kwyn]

No, you’re treating your unsubstantiated opinion (that he was always going to go to Seattle) as fact and using it as a basis to rationalize what our FO is doing (or didn’t do in this case).

And you have even less basis for your opinion. You also made it a bit personal, which was unnecessary.

If you frequent other teams boards, everyone is saying the same. Wagner wanted to be back at home and wants to retire as a seahawk which is perfectly normal. Even when he left them last year he wrote to fans that he would be back soon.

 

[phildadon86]

LOL

This is what I mean. People diminishing Wagner (top LB in football last year) lol. To prop up the lesser player in LVE

 

[TheCritic]

No, you’re treating your unsubstantiated opinion (that he was always going to go to Seattle) as fact and using it as a basis to rationalize what our FO is doing (or didn’t do in this case).

Wrong! The mere fact that Wagner signed a $7 million contact to return to Seattle tells us everything we need to know. If that is not enough "proof" for you then you can rest assured that either Wagner was offered a contract by the Cowboys and turned it down OR that the Cowboys FO had determined that resigning LVE was a better deal overall for them. Either way, it was never going to happen and those Cowboys fans who thought otherwise were living in fantasyland.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Wrong! The mere fact that Wagner signed a $7 million contact to return to Seattle tells us everything we need to know. If that is not enough "proof" for you then you can rest assured that either Wagner was offered a contract by the Cowboys and turned it down OR that the Cowboys FO had determined that resigning LVE was a better deal overall for them. Either way, it was never going to happen and those Cowboys fans who thought otherwise were living in fantasyland.

Luuuulz, now we have fans claiming that we did offer Wagner a contract, smh.