Bottom-line stats (12 games)

[ScipioCowboy]

Because Garrett's demotion from OC is the reason he gets credit for the offense? Imagine how bad this offense would look if our defense wasn't producing TOs...

I maintain it's Garrett's system. Even if you subtract defensive scores, the offense ranks seventh in scoring. Obviously, that ranking still isn't factoring in short fields from turnovers and long returns.

I'm not saying Garrett is a great coach. I just want to make sure whatever blame we put at his feet is justified.

 

[BIGDen]

W-L is the bottom-line stat, but since 2008, there have been 37 teams that finished the season ranked among the top 12 in pass rating differential, turnover differential, and points-per-drive differential. All 37 teams made the playoffs or won at least 10 games.

2012 GB Sea SF Atl Was NE Hou Cin Bal Chi
2011 GB NE Hou SF Det Bal Atl
2010 GB NE Pit Bal Chi Atl Phi TB
2009 GB NO SD Bal Min Phi NE
2008 Bal Ind SD NYG Ten

Offensively, we rank among the top 8 in all three categories. Defensively, we've improved over last year, but there will have to be even more improvement in order to get into the top 12 in points per drive.

Pass Rating
2013
offense 6th
defense 22nd
differential 12th

2012
offense 9th
defense 29th
differential 18th

Give/Take
2013
offense (give) 2nd
defense (take) 4th
differential 2nd

2012
offense (give) 25th
defense (take) 29th
differential 27th

Points Per Drive
2013
offense 8th
defense 25th
differential 16th

2012
offense 10th
defense 26th
differential 20th

Great stuff as always percy! Thanks.

 

[jobberone]

All true except for the part I highlighted. Red zone defense has been terrible, ranking 28th (down from 18th in 2012).

That's 28th in red zone TD%. 43 opponents' drives have reached the red zone, and touchdowns were scored on 26 of them.

Number of Opponents' Drives Ending in Turnovers
1. Carolina (25)
2. Seattle (25)
3. Dallas (23)

Number of Opponents' Red Zone Drives Ending in Touchdowns
1. Carolina (9)
2. Seattle (12)

24. Dallas (26)

Ok, thanks. I hadn't looked at that in awhile or I've just remembered it incorrectly. Also my subjective experience was that they were getting a fair number of FGs instead of TDs in the RZ defense....which is why you need eyeball and stats.

 

[jobberone]

I went back to look at that PH and we are 8th in the league on FG/D which is pretty good. The rest is bad news with TD/FG slightly over two at 2.06 which is 29th in the league. So the first # is actually a bad number to have considering the number of points/TDs surrendered. i.e. the defense is sucking.

 

[khiladi]

I maintain it's Garrett's system. Even if you subtract defensive scores, the offense ranks seventh in scoring. Obviously, that ranking still isn't factoring in short fields from turnovers and long returns.

I'm not saying Garrett is a great coach. I just want to make sure whatever blame we put at his feet is justified.

I agree, but remember, we are at the top in red-zone scoring this year. When Garrett has been in charge, we've been bottom half of the league, despite our yardage production. Additionally, Bailey has been money from down and distance as well.

 

[jobberone]

I agree, but remember, we are at the top in red-zone scoring this year. When Garrett has been in charge, we've been bottom half of the league, despite our yardage production. Additionally, Bailey has been money from down and distance as well.

You have to factor in the improvement in the OL as well as the shorter fields.