Bowl Games Schedule

[jterrell]

The problem with TCU is they did not do enough to prove themselves as a top 4 team. The Big 12 was incredibly weak this year and TCU's only important game was a loss at Baylor. I think TCU might be the best team right now, but their best two wins were against #11 Kansas State and #25 Minnesota. The four teams that made it had more wins against top 25 opponents.

We can talk about scores, but trying to use transitivite properties (TCU beat OkSt by 60 and FSU won by 2 therefore TCU is better) is futile. A&M just beat West Virginia by 8 and TCU won by 1, we all know the Aggies are an average team that would lose to TCU.

TCU should probably be in the playoffs, but the Big 12 has to get better if they want it to happen. OkSt, Texas, Kansas St, and Texas Tech played against quality Power 5 opponents during the regular season and lost. They have to continue to play those games and win to lift their own teams up and knock the other conferences down.

But Ole Miss was overrated. They won against Alabama but lost to Auburn, LSU, and Arkansas. West Virginia beat Baylor but lost to Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas St. Virginia Tech beat Ohio State but lost to Wake Forest. The point here is one huge win doesn't suddenly make a team great. Ole Miss had a great year but are probably third or fourth best if they play in the Big 12.

The Big 12 was not incredibly weak, it was simply down because the brand name schools had QB issues.
It was the 3rd strongest conf this year.

Ohio State beat Minny, MichSt and Wisc.
TCU beat KST, Minny.
The common opponent was Minny and TCU waxed them while OSU just got by them.

But what's more is the loss column. TCU lost to a top 10 team on the road in a miracle late comeback with a couple questionable calls.

OSU lost a HOME Game to an unranked opponent that would shut anyone out of title talk in any prior year.

In fact if Baylor has ONE more loss, TCU probably gets the nod and goes in over OSU.
The committee basically admitted they looked better and had them ranked higher until forcing Baylor in over TCU as head to head came about once conf champs were decided. (Big 12 basically named Baylor champs without doing so)

Baylor didn't play a P5 non-conf game and thus had no argument but TCU should have been in.

The entire SEC was overrated. That happens every year now it seems. A team ranked 20th beats a team ranked 6th and they both end up top 10 the next week....
It is absurd. And the non-conf and Bowl games the past TWO seasons have detailed that.

None of the schools consistently play more than 1 p5 non-conf game. All they can do is keep doing that.

But the critical piece is to expand the playoff and get enough teams in so we truly find out who is the champ.
Once that happens you don't need to guess.

 

[jterrell]

The problem with TCU is they did not do enough to prove themselves as a top 4 team. The Big 12 was incredibly weak this year and TCU's only important game was a loss at Baylor. I think TCU might be the best team right now, but their best two wins were against #11 Kansas State and #25 Minnesota. The four teams that made it had more wins against top 25 opponents.

We can talk about scores, but trying to use transitivite properties (TCU beat OkSt by 60 and FSU won by 2 therefore TCU is better) is futile. A&M just beat West Virginia by 8 and TCU won by 1, we all know the Aggies are an average team that would lose to TCU.

TCU should probably be in the playoffs, but the Big 12 has to get better if they want it to happen. OkSt, Texas, Kansas St, and Texas Tech played against quality Power 5 opponents during the regular season and lost. They have to continue to play those games and win to lift their own teams up and knock the other conferences down.

But Ole Miss was overrated. They won against Alabama but lost to Auburn, LSU, and Arkansas. West Virginia beat Baylor but lost to Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas St. Virginia Tech beat Ohio State but lost to Wake Forest. The point here is one huge win doesn't suddenly make a team great. Ole Miss had a great year but are probably third or fourth best if they play in the Big 12.

And no Ole Miss wasn't vastly overrated. They were simply wounded. It happens come bowl time.
Ole Miss has ~10 players who will be 1st round NFL draft picks. 3 or 4 of which who didn't play or didn't finish versus TCU.
The QB hadn't practiced in over a month before a few days before the bowl game and the coach was gonna ride out with his guy who chose Ole Miss over Texas at Freeze's urging and with an understanding it was his job while he was there.

But TCU beat people silly all year long. That was an AVERAGE margin of victory for them.
I don't like TCU at all but hat is a really friggin good football team who makes huge plays on both sides of the ball as regularly as anyone in college football.

TCU and Oregon are essentially the same team. So explosive on both sides.

 

[DFWJC]

Bowl season is so crazy.

Houston was trailing Pittsburgh by 21 with under 4 minutes left and just won the game 35-34.

 

[DFWJC]

Scores update
Tennesse is up on Iowa 28-0 in the 1st half.

 

[Seabo]

The Big 12 was not incredibly weak, it was simply down because the brand name schools had QB issues.
It was the 3rd strongest conf this year.

Ohio State beat Minny, MichSt and Wisc.
TCU beat KST, Minny.
The common opponent was Minny and TCU waxed them while OSU just got by them.

But what's more is the loss column. TCU lost to a top 10 team on the road in a miracle late comeback with a couple questionable calls.

OSU lost a HOME Game to an unranked opponent that would shut anyone out of title talk in any prior year.

In fact if Baylor has ONE more loss, TCU probably gets the nod and goes in over OSU.
The committee basically admitted they looked better and had them ranked higher until forcing Baylor in over TCU as head to head came about once conf champs were decided. (Big 12 basically named Baylor champs without doing so)

Baylor didn't play a P5 non-conf game and thus had no argument but TCU should have been in.

The entire SEC was overrated. That happens every year now it seems. A team ranked 20th beats a team ranked 6th and they both end up top 10 the next week....
It is absurd. And the non-conf and Bowl games the past TWO seasons have detailed that.

None of the schools consistently play more than 1 p5 non-conf game. All they can do is keep doing that.

But the critical piece is to expand the playoff and get enough teams in so we truly find out who is the champ.
Once that happens you don't need to guess.

Ohio State's wins over Wisconsin and Mich St were huge, and helped them overcome the loss to Virginia Tech. The style points for a win at home vs Minnesota are minimal and not worth discussing. The Big 12 is still showing itself to be weak in the bowl games while the Big 10 looks incredibly good.

The fact that you list one B12 win as a quality win shows how incredibly weak the conference was. You called it 3rd best but I would argue 4th best behind the Pac12 and Big 10.

When TCU was ranked 25th and beat #4 Oklahoma they ended up at 9 the following week and Oklahoma dropped all the way to 11. South Carolina actually dropped to 21st in the AP poll unless you were talking about a different team. I don't know why you hate the SEC so much, it is known that ESPN loves them for all the money they bring in.

TCU had some close games against OU, WVU, and Kansas. They were down by two scores against WVU before winning on a last second field goal. I think TCU is one of the best teams, they simply didn't do enough in the season to prove it.

 

[DFWJC]

East Carolin's record setting QB/WR tandem (Shane Carden/Justin Hardy) are playing right now vs one of the better secondaries in the country (Florida).
Vernon Hargreaves is an All-SEC CB for Florida. He's shadowing Hardy everywhere.

Gators have a really good defense but the offense hadn't been so great this year to say the least.

Hardy just caught a TD pass . 7-0

 

[DFWJC]

East Carolin's record setting QB/WR tandem (Shane Carden/Justin Hardy) are playing right now vs one of the better secondaries in the country (Florida).
Vernon Hargreaves is an All-SEC CB for Florida. He's shadowing Hardy everywhere.

Gators have a really good defense but the offense hadn't been so great this year to say the least.

Hardy just caught a TD pass . 7-0

Oh well, Hardy had a huge game with 11 catches for 160 and a score. But Hargreaves got the final say with an interception in the end zone to save the win for the Gators.

 

[Phoenix]

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