Boys First Two Picks In 2013 Draft?

[SDogo]

Agreed.

How have you been slacker?

Resting up, keeping busy, changing jobs, quitting smoking and waiting for training camp! lol

 

[big dog cowboy]

oh ok so you would not have traded down for DeCastro

and then get our C

boy both of those picks would have been dumb IMO (Bockers - Wagner) give me a break

but what do I know

I know that to win games we need Romo up right


so who makes the pro bowl first DeCastro or Claiborne

I never said I wouldn't have traded down for DeCastro.

Who makes the pro bowl first between Decastro and Claiborne? Who cares the pro bowl is such a joke it doesn't matter.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Even if people didn't believe those specific players were the Cowboys targets, it's clear they were not going OL with either pick.

That's true... after the two linemen were signed in free agency.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Pretty naive to take that as a given. Even the writers at the team website didn't believe him when he said that.

What better way to try to justify packaging your first two picks if you tell everyone you were gonna take an ILB nobody wanted had you not made the trade.

The Cowboys had been connected to Brockers for a long time.

If you have better info on who the Cowboys were selecting in the second round... please share.

 

[Risen Star]

The Cowboys had been connected to Brockers for a long time.

If you have better info on who the Cowboys were selecting in the second round... please share.

I wasn't talking about Brockers. I was talking about Wagner. A smart fan immediately smelled that out. And when your own writers on the team website say they don't think he was being exactly honest when he said that, that should speak volumes.

Trenches are both sides of the ball. We need help on both sides. Yes, I would most definitely take Brockers and whoever over another cornerback. Even in the remote chance it was Wagner.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I wasn't talking about Brockers. I was talking about Wagner. A smart fan immediately smelled that out. And when your own writers on the team website say they don't think he was being exactly honest when he said that, that should speak volumes.

Trenches are both sides of the ball. We need help on both sides. Yes, I would most definitely take Brockers and whoever over another cornerback. Even in the remote chance it was Wagner.

I would say that the chances were better than IF they retained their first and second round picks, and if Brockers was chosen in the first round, that a corner would have been chosed in the second round... and not an offensive lineman.

 

[Risen Star]

I would say that the chances were better than IF they retained their first and second round picks, and if Brockers was chosen in the first round, that a corner would have been chosed in the second round... and not an offensive lineman.

I'd choose that too.

But, as usual, your thinking is flawed. It's not okay to make a bad decision because it saved us from making another bad decision.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'd choose that too.

But, as usual, your thinking is flawed. It's not okay to make a bad decision because it saved us from making another bad decision.

You think it was a bad decision.

That thought isn't universal.

 

[Risen Star]

You think it was a bad decision.

That thought isn't universal.

It's not universal but the people who disagree with me also disagreed with me on Newman in the top 5. They are as wrong now as they were then. I find it comical that those people are now trying to tell me why this was the right thing to do.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's not universal but the people who disagree with me also disagreed with me on Newman in the top 5. They are as wrong now as they were then. I find it comical that those people are now trying to tell me why this was the right thing to do.

My gosh, you're basing a 2012 Cowboys' decision on what happened in 2003?

SMH.

 

[Risen Star]

My gosh, you're basing a 2012 Cowboys' decision on what happened in 2003?

SMH.

No...I'm basing it on the flawed philosophy that you use high picks to strengthen your CB position while neglecting your trenches. It's as wrong now as it was then. I'm sorry that the not too distant past exposed your theory.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

No...I'm basing it on the flawed philosophy that you use high picks to strengthen your CB position while neglecting your trenches. It's as wrong now as it was then. I'm sorry that the not too distant past exposed your theory.

It comes down to how bad people feel the trenches are. Some feel that they aren't as bad (especially the defense) as opposed to others.

 

[Risen Star]

It comes down to how bad people feel the trenches are. Some feel that they aren't as bad (especially the defense) as opposed to others.

And those people would be wrong.

How else do you want me to say it? You're wrong. You'll sit here a year from now with excuses as to why this failed. Maybe we need a 5th and 6th CB upgrade by that point.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

And those people would be wrong.

How else do you want me to say it? You're wrong. You'll sit here a year from now with excuses as to why this failed. Maybe we need a 5th and 6th CB upgrade by that point.

We'll see how things pan out relatively soon.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We'll see how things pan out relatively soon.

We already know. I told you we suck.

 

[Zordon]

If Dallas is still looking for a OC at the end of the year it won't come from the draft, it will come in the form of Max Unger.

Does anybody remember what happened to our 2nd round pick that year?

 

[junk]

Does anybody remember what happened to our 2nd round pick that year?

Dallas traded down. #51 for Buffalo's third and fourth (75 and 110)

 

[Zordon]

Dallas traded down. #51 for Buffalo's third and fourth (75 and 110)

Thks junk. Depressing draft looking back at it.

 

[xwalker]

It's not universal but the people who disagree with me also disagreed with me on Newman in the top 5. They are as wrong now as they were then. I find it comical that those people are now trying to tell me why this was the right thing to do.

The difference, IMO, is that Garrett is putting a significant emphasis on the mental-makeup of draft picks. Newman's problem was mental weakness, not lack of talent.

Parcells' had multiple draft picks that didn't have the correct mental-makeup. Jacob Rogers, Barbie Carpenter, T. Newman, etc..

This problem continued into the Wade era with players like Robert Brewster and Jason Williams. Both had ability but not the correct mental-makeup. Brewster was not motivated to play football and Williams had problems learning the system.

 

[CATCH17]

Hey if come the first round next year and Dallas is set to pick and the top guy on their board who's available is a center or guard, I'd have no qualms about choosing them.

The challenge is that guards or centers that merit a 1st round ground are fewer than maybe any other position.

And if a center or guard are not the top player on their board who's available, say it's a OLB or DE or NT or Safety or TE or maybe even QB, then I'm taking one of those.

In other words I'm not going to reach (at all) for anyone in the first round.

Dallas was prepared to take Brockers over Decastro this year so I doub't they'll be taking interior OL high in the draft. If we're picking late 20's or 30's then yeah go for it.