Signed by Cowboys Boys working deal with DE Benson Mayowa - *Signs Offer Sheet*

[DeaconBlues]

It's about the future. We aren't winning anything now with this team after the draft even if we go defense at #4. We are so far away from competing for a SB.

Future franchise QB, yes. Future "merely good" QB, no. Not with the 4th pick.

And I strongly disagree with your 2nd and 3rd sentences.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Future franchise QB, yes. Future "merely good" QB, no. Not with the 4th pick.

And I strongly disagree with your 2nd and 3rd sentences.

Oh, your future knowledge. Amazing. I'm guessing this only applies to qb's at #4, any other position does not apply.

You're right, we are SB contenders, What was I thinking. We are better than Carolina, Seattle, Arizona, Green Bay, Minnesota in the NFC. Other teams won't draft well, but we will hit on every one of our picks.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Oh, your future knowledge. Amazing. I'm guessing this only applies to qb's at #4, any other position does not apply.

You're right, we are SB contenders, What was I thinking. We are better than Carolina, Seattle, Arizona, Green Bay, Minnesota in the NFC. Other teams won't draft well, but we will hit on every one of our picks.

So, your "future knowledge" about how bad Dallas is, is gold, but my future knowledge, based on a healthy 2014, and injury filled 2015, is not.

Gotcha. Enjoy the Eeyore life.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Mayock says Goff & Wentz are better than Marriota & Winston.

Problem with Mayock is he says one thing, ranks another. He spent the entire build up to the 2015 draft stating Winston couldn't be trusted on or off the field, yet ranked him the #2 QB.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

So, your "future knowledge" about how bad Dallas is, is gold, but my future knowledge, based on a healthy 2014, and injury filled 2015, is not.

Gotcha. Enjoy the Eeyore life.

lol. Again, are we THE ONLY team that will draft well? No other team is gonna improve in the draft but us? And the healthy 2014 season we had Murray and Romo had his best year career wise. And even then we weren't SB contenders. We didn't contend for the SB. We didn't even contend for the NFC Championship, because GB and Seattle did.

 

[DeaconBlues]

lol. Again, are we THE ONLY team that will draft well? No other team is gonna improve in the draft but us? And the healthy 2014 season we had Murray and Romo had his best year career wise. And even then we weren't SB contenders. We didn't contend for the SB. We didn't even contend for the NFC Championship, because GB and Seattle did.

A) Doesn't matter how the other teams draft. All anyone can do is take care of themselves.
B) So you're definition of SB contender is "must reach conference championship?". Why do I have the feeling from the volume of your posts that if Dallas did reach the NFC title game, your goalposts would move to "must reach the SB" contender status.

Here, let me end this. I believe if healthy, Dallas is one of the top teams in the NFC. Only team I see better is Carolina. Not Arizona. Not GB. Not Seattle. Not Minnesota. Just Carolina.

You disagree. Fine. Just don't expect me (or anyone else) to bow down to your Eeyore thinking.

 

[Seven]

Good question.

I'm a fan of whomever the Cowboys believe is the right pick at that spot.

Like where your head's at, Michael

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

A) Doesn't matter how the other teams draft. All anyone can do is take care of themselves.
B) So you're definition of SB contender is "must reach conference championship?". Why do I have the feeling from the volume of your posts that if Dallas did reach the NFC title game, your goalposts would move to "must reach the SB" contender status.

Here, let me end this. I believe if healthy, Dallas is one of the top teams in the NFC. Only team I see better is Carolina. Not Arizona. Not GB. Not Seattle. Not Minnesota. Just Carolina.

You disagree. Fine. Just don't expect me (or anyone else) to bow down to your Eeyore thinking.

Again, other teams will improve with their draft, as you think we'll do. So it does matter. GB and Seattle contended for the NFC Championship, we did not. Seattle and New England contended for the SB, we did not.

You believe all you want. Won't make our pass rush or our secondary elite.

Works my and many others way here too, you disagree. Fine. Just don't expect me (or anyone else) to bow down to your Eeyore thinking

 

[Beast_from_East]

Maybe they're just glad that we're trying to replace Jeremy Mincey with a guy who is 7 years younger, would use less of our salary cap, was more productive last season and is on the rise instead of at the end of his career. I don't know, but most people would consider younger, cheaper and more productive to be a good thing.

I prefer to pay for production, for players that have actually proven their worth on the field............not paying a guy based on future potential. Wasn't that the entire principle behind the rookie cap?

Nobody, not even you, can say with a straight face that a guy with 2 career sacks is worth $3 million a season.........and by judging the comments in this thread, I think most would agree with me that we are paying for potential here, not based on his actual performance on the field to date.

That is the philosophy I disagree with, I would have preferred to give some of this money to Weddle ( a multiple probowl player that has proven it on the field) as opposed to what I hope Mayowa turns into...............but maybe that is just me.

 

[Section446]

This screams desperation.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I prefer to pay for production, for players that have actually proven their worth on the field............not paying a guy based on future potential. Wasn't that the entire principle behind the rookie cap?

Nobody, not even you, can say with a straight face that a guy with 2 career sacks is worth $3 million a season.........and by judging the comments in this thread, I think most would agree with me that we are paying for potential here, not based on his actual performance on the field to date.

That is the philosophy I disagree with, I would have preferred to give some of this money to Weddle ( a multiple probowl player that has proven it on the field) as opposed to what I hope Mayowa turns into...............but maybe that is just me.

You pay a guy for what you think he will do for you going forward. Not what he has done in the past. Sometimes those goals align.

 

[Zordon]

33 pages/600+ replies on benson mayowa. i love this site.

 

[Aven8]

33 pages/600+ replies on benson mayowa. i love this site.

I'm still trying to figure out what position he plays!!! Lol

 

[AdamJT13]

Nobody, not even you, can say with a straight face that a guy with 2 career sacks is worth $3 million a season.

I certainly could say that. I can also say that a guy with 0 career sacks could be worth $3 million a season. But Mayowa's not getting $3 million a season, he's getting less than that. Whether he is worth what we offered (which still is not a lot) remains to be seen -- just as it remains for every other free agent to prove he was worth the money he's getting.

Like I said, all of the evidence points to Mayowa being a better deal than Mincey was for us last year -- cheaper, younger and more productive. I won't have a problem with that if the Raiders don't match. And if we "overpaid" to sign defensive backs who were cheaper, much younger and more productive than Brandon Carr or Barry Church, I wouldn't see that as a bad thing, either. If you would rather overpay aging, 30-something veterans at the ends of their careers because they were productive several years ago, that's your prerogative.

 

[boysfanindc]

Maybe they're just glad that we're trying to replace Jeremy Mincey with a guy who is 7 years younger, would use less of our salary cap, was more productive last season and is on the rise instead of at the end of his career. I don't know, but most people would consider younger, cheaper and more productive to be a good thing.

Agreed, there is logic for you/

 

[Gaede]

33 pages/600+ replies on benson mayowa. i love this site.

I initially ignored this thread, thinking 'who cares?' Boy was I wrong

 

[boysfanindc]

I prefer to pay for production, for players that have actually proven their worth on the field............not paying a guy based on future potential. Wasn't that the entire principle behind the rookie cap?

Nobody, not even you, can say with a straight face that a guy with 2 career sacks is worth $3 million a season.........and by judging the comments in this thread, I think most would agree with me that we are paying for potential here, not based on his actual performance on the field to date.

That is the philosophy I disagree with, I would have preferred to give some of this money to Weddle ( a multiple probowl player that has proven it on the field) as opposed to what I hope Mayowa turns into...............but maybe that is just me.

I would rather pay for future production then past production, when it is over 30 and under 30.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I certainly could say that. I can also say that a guy with 0 career sacks could be worth $3 million a season. But Mayowa's not getting $3 million a season, he's getting less than that. Whether he is worth what we offered (which still is not a lot) remains to be seen -- just as it remains for every other free agent to prove he was worth the money he's getting.

Like I said, all of the evidence points to Mayowa being a better deal than Mincey was for us last year -- cheaper, younger and more productive. I won't have a problem with that if the Raiders don't match. And if we "overpaid" to sign defensive backs who were cheaper, much younger and more productive than Brandon Carr or Barry Church, I wouldn't see that as a bad thing, either. If you would rather overpay aging, 30-something veterans at the ends of their careers because they were productive several years ago, that's your prerogative.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I certainly could say that. I can also say that a guy with 0 career sacks could be worth $3 million a season. But Mayowa's not getting $3 million a season, he's getting less than that. Whether he is worth what we offered (which still is not a lot) remains to be seen -- just as it remains for every other free agent to prove he was worth the money he's getting.

Like I said, all of the evidence points to Mayowa being a better deal than Mincey was for us last year -- cheaper, younger and more productive. I won't have a problem with that if the Raiders don't match. And if we "overpaid" to sign defensive backs who were cheaper, much younger and more productive than Brandon Carr or Barry Church, I wouldn't see that as a bad thing, either. If you would rather overpay aging, 30-something veterans at the ends of their careers because they were productive several years ago, that's your prerogative.

I heard the same thing about Demarcus Ware................at 33 he was dominating the Panthers in the SB..............not all players over 30 suck Adam.

 

[unionjack8]

Any rumours out there about Oakland matching or walking away?