BP has some tough choices on the roster

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JackMagist said:
I'll buy most of this but I don't see us carrying 10 OL. One of the backup tackles has to go and I'm thinking either Fabini or we try to slide McQuistan to the PS. Green makes the team in place of the extra OT. Also, I'm not sure Fowler makes it (but he might) which would let us carry an extra TE...maybe Ryan or Curtis.
That's funny that you say that. Pretty much the last adjustment I made was to swap Green and McQuistan. Originally I had Green on the roster and McQuistan on the PS. You're probably right with that call. I think I'm going to adjust.
 

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austintodallas said:
OK, here's my crack at the roster including PS and Cuts...

OFFENSE (25)
QB(3)…Bledsoe, Romo and Henson (or Baker if a Henson trade occurs)
RB(3)…Jones, Barber, and Thompson
WR(5)…Owens, Glenn, Crayton, Hurd and Rector
TE/FB(4) Witten, Fasano, Hannam and Polite
OL(10)…Gurode, Johnson, Kosier, Rivera, Procter, Adams, Columbo, Fabini, Pettiti and McQuistan

DEFENSE (24)
DL(6)…Canty, Spears, Ferguson, Hatcher, Ratliff and Johnson
LB(9)…Ellis, Ayodele, James, Ware, Singleton, Boiman, Burnett, Carpenter and Fowler
CB(5)…Newman, Henry, Glenn, Reeves and Jones
S(4)…Williams, Watkins , Davis and Elam

Specialists (4)
K(2)…Vanderjagt and Suisham
P(1)…McBriar
DS(1)…Ladouceur

Practice Squad (8) alphabetical order
Batiste
Curtis
Glymph
Green
Hoyte
Kincade
Miles
Stanley

Pending Cuts (18) alphabetical order
Baker
Bjork
Bowen
Butler (unless Henson trade occurs)
Coleman, K. (possible trade)
Coleman, M.
Frederickson
Jenson
Peterman
Pile
Roland
Ryan
Saldi
Shanle (possible trade)
Tarullo
Tolver
Ward
Williams, L.

Did Copper already get cut?
 

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silver said:
that boggles my mind. the guy can boom punts 60 yards downfiled but can't kickoff 60 yards. what's the difference? i played soccer and eventhough the soccer ball and football are totally different, once you learn how to kick you can do both. i never undestood why you would need 2 guys let alone be interchaegable.

two different parts of the foot, completely different motion and the contact point within the swing of the leg is completely different as well. Being an aussie I suspect mcbriar played rugby and learned to kick there, there is no kick off the ground in rugby its pretty much all punting. I can punt a mile but I can kick off maybe 30-40 yards. I know for me kicking off the inside of my foot while the ball is on the ground is very awkward.
 

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wileedog said:
Unless Hoffman's real first name is "Jesus" I highly doubt he would have gotten anything more out of what we had last year. And Vandy has never had a kicking coach his entire career, yet somehow he still managed to be the most accurate kicker in NFL history.

And if punters could just easily pick up kickoffs, don't you think a whole lot more punters would be kicking off? Wouldn't you think every team in the NFL who had a FG kicker who couldn't kick off would want to save a roster spot too?
My point is that we have had nothing but trouble with the kicking game since Hoffman left. Who coaches our kickers now? DeHaven? He is the worst ST coach the Cowboys have ever had. Hoffman would have gotten better results last year with the guys we had and we would never have signed Vandy.

Hoffman almost always had the punters do the kickoffs and the holding for the kicker. It worked well for him for years since the punters usually had stronger legs than the kickers. And the punters had more time in TC and in practice to work as the holder and the get the timing, placement, etc. down. The backup QB has to be working on his own game. Firing Hoffman is the worst coaching move Parcells ahs made since he came here.
 

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stealth said:
two different parts of the foot, completely different motion and the contact point within the swing of the leg is completely different as well. Being an aussie I suspect mcbriar played rugby and learned to kick there, there is no kick off the ground in rugby its pretty much all punting. I can punt a mile but I can kick off maybe 30-40 yards. I know for me kicking off the inside of my foot while the ball is on the ground is very awkward.
thanks for clearing that up. i guess it's the equivalent of a pitcher being able to hit. you see these kids in little league and they all can do both. but in the majors there's not a single one of them who can hit.
 

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JackMagist said:
Firing Hoffman is the worst coaching move Parcells ahs made since he came here.

Which is why all those teams have lined up to be the first to hire Hoffman and miraculously turn hot dog vendors into NFL FG kickers, right?

Oh, wait...
 

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wileedog said:
Which is why all those teams have lined up to be the first to hire Hoffman and miraculously turn hot dog vendors into NFL FG kickers, right?

Oh, wait...
He's coaching for Atlanta now.

But anyway, it is real simple. We never had problems with the kicking game with him here. We have had nothing but problems with the kicking game with him gone. You do the math.
 

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wileedog said:
Unless Hoffman's real first name is "Jesus" I highly doubt he would have gotten anything more out of what we had last year. And Vandy has never had a kicking coach his entire career, yet somehow he still managed to be the most accurate kicker in NFL history.
in the last offseason vanderjagt hired hoffman as a personal coach seperate from his team.
 

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JackMagist said:
He's coaching for Atlanta now.
After two years out of work.

But anyway, it is real simple. We never had problems with the kicking game with him here. We have had nothing but problems with the kicking game with him gone. You do the math.

The kicking game was fine until Cundiff got hurt in TC last year. Cortez was horrible before he got here, while he was here, and after he left. Again, Hoffman wasn't going to turn him into him anything other than what he was - a bad kicker.

Cundiff came back and slumped miserably. He's also been released already by Green Bay. Guess they should have hired Hoffman with him.

If firing Hoffman was the worst move Bill has made since he's been here, he's doing better than I thought.
 

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stealth said:
in the last offseason vanderjagt hired hoffman as a personal coach seperate from his team.

That's working out well so far.
 

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wileedog said:
After two years out of work.
Actually he worked as a consultant for several teams before landing a regular gig. But he was not "out of work"

The kicking game was fine until Cundiff got hurt in TC last year. Cortez was horrible before he got here, while he was here, and after he left. Again, Hoffman wasn't going to turn him into him anything other than what he was - a bad kicker.
Hoffman would not have brought in Cortez...that was a DeHaven move. Hoffman would have reached into his bag of tricks and brought out a kicker who could actually kick.

Cundiff came back and slumped miserably. He's also been released already by Green Bay. Guess they should have hired Hoffman with him.
They probably should have but Hoffman was already working for Atlanta by then.

If firing Hoffman was the worst move Bill has made since he's been here, he's doing better than I thought.
I said worst coaching move not worst move period. But hiring DeHaven as ST coach rivals the firing of Hoffman in that regard. Two moves that have everything to do with why our ST's have sucked since BP arrived.
 

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JackMagist said:
Actually he worked as a consultant for several teams before landing a regular gig. But he was not "out of work"
Consulting is not the same as being on the sideline every day during the season.

No one thought he was worth a regular paycheck despite his miraculous kicker finding superpowers.

Hoffman would not have brought in Cortez...that was a DeHaven move. Hoffman would have reached into his bag of tricks and brought out a kicker who could actually kick.
Can we skip hiring Hoffman than and just buy his magical bag of kickers? Then we could just pull one out whenever we wanted.
 

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david_jackson said:
If the game day roster ristrictions weren't there, then perhaps. The tactical advantage of having that emergency QB is just so great. They don't pick the best 53 players, then come game day do the best they can. The 53 is decided with the realization that only so many can play. I can see a tactical move where we keep only 2 QB's for a game while holding on to someone to trade.....but if you go through the whole season with only 2 QB's you are giving too much of a tactical edge to your rivals.

Week to Week
46 on game day > 45 on game day
come again?
 

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CanadianCowboysFan said:
Is it that he can't or just isn't good at it because his leg isn't strong enough?

he has one of the strongest legs in the leauge...
 
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