BP says that Sean Taylor cost the skins the game... maybe... LOL

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The play looks more convincing then it really was. He should have had the right to hit him but I think the whole helmet to helmet thing comes in when he just runs into him with a little dip. I mean, he didn't even have his arms out or anything, just sort of ran into him like a penguin. I think if he puts his arms up and hits him then it wouldn't have been a problem because it wouldn't have looked like he was leading with his helmet.
 

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I think we are talking about the wrong things, yeah if ST did not commit those penalties, maybe we would have had a chance, but overall the blame clearly lies on our offense, that could not convert in the red zone, and our pass D. I really have nothing to say about our pass D, and our offense settled for field goals instead of points, in the RZ, which is really bad. Our offense needs fine tuning and our pass D, needs a defibulator(sp?).
 

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fanfromvirginia said:
And as much as we tend to gripe about the nanny state of the NFL, we're probably saving some significant injuries in an increasingly injury-plagued sport by erring on the side of woosieness.

I don't know about that. There are still significant injuries. And it seems like the big hitters aren't laying off. Roy for example gets flagged for big hits relatively often.

I find it hard to imagine Roy makes a conscious effort every time he's about to tackle somebody to "not lead with his helmet" or not horse collar someone. He still uses the horse collar, even though I've rarely seen that one called.

The NFL can try to protect these guys, but when you get at game speed, a big hitter is probably going to be the same big hitter more times than not. If they get flagged, they probably say "oh well, that's how I play" then accept the yardage, maybe apologize to the guy, pay their fine, and move on.
 

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apickmans said:
Rich, didnt the ball hit the receiver in the hand or his finger tips? If so Taylor has the right to try to dislodge the receiver from the ball right?

the ball was way out of his grasp by the time Taylor hit him
 

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BigDFan5 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NehSV6G99Lo


go to the slow mo replay at the 3:26 mark, it is CLEAR he hit Robinson in the helmet with the crown of his helmet

ST is going up at an upward motion Robinson is landing the helmet to helmet is incidental and robinson probably didn't feel it. that hit happens 90% of the time on running plays into the line the only difference is its ST and I can't stand the guy because he looks like a thug that wears a lot of padding under those shoulder pads.
 

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jrumann59 said:
ST is going up at an upward motion Robinson is landing the helmet to helmet is incidental and robinson probably didn't feel it. that hit happens 90% of the time on running plays into the line

It's perfectly legal on a running play into the line.

It's not legal when it's a defenseless receiver.
 

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peplaw06 said:
I don't know about that. There are still significant injuries. And it seems like the big hitters aren't laying off. Roy for example gets flagged for big hits relatively often.

I find it hard to imagine Roy makes a conscious effort every time he's about to tackle somebody to "not lead with his helmet" or not horse collar someone. He still uses the horse collar, even though I've rarely seen that one called.

The NFL can try to protect these guys, but when you get at game speed, a big hitter is probably going to be the same big hitter more times than not. If they get flagged, they probably say "oh well, that's how I play" then accept the yardage, maybe apologize to the guy, pay their fine, and move on.
Maybe, maybe not. It's impossible to say how many of these hits any particular player would be making in the hypothetical world where they were legal. I'm guessing it's got to have some significant deterrent effect on the legal overall.

Just because we see it a lot doesn't mean we wouldn't see it more.
 
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