News: BR: Cowboys' CeeDee Lamb Put on Reserve/Did Not Report List amid Contract Rumors

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optics matter. When dumb and dumber walk around making the all in mantra a thing, THEN you don't sign guys, you cannot be taken seriously. They MUST sign CD. Fans are watching this very close. Any leverage the Joneses had is gone because of their own doing. Waiting was bad.
what is HILARIOUS to me is all of you keep saying they waited. You dont know that. You dont have a clue what has actually happened. You have no clue when the first offer was made, how much the offer was, what the terms were. They could have offered the most lucrative deal in NFL history to a Wr and Lamb said no because he wanted to wait on Jefferson.... but it would still have been the Cowboys waited, right?
 

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Whas ignorant is you assuming you know that Jerry hasnt offered a deal worthy of Lamb. What if Lamb is also asking for a no trade clause and a no franchise clause? You think the Cowboys should just acept it? What if the Cowboys offered Lamb a deal equal to Jefferson money and Lamb wants more? The Cowboys should just accept it? You dont have a clue what is happening behind the scenes except wild speculation. If you have actual facts, then please share.
We know Lamb is important to the team. We know Lamb wants an extension now. We know he is holding out of training camp. We know Jerry Jones owns the Cowboys. We know a deal is not done.
 

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what is HILARIOUS to me is all of you keep saying they waited. You dont know that. You dont have a clue what has actually happened. You have no clue when the first offer was made, how much the offer was, what the terms were. They could have offered the most lucrative deal in NFL history to a Wr and Lamb said no because he wanted to wait on Jefferson.... but it would still have been the Cowboys waited, right?
We know historically that Jerry loves to use deadlines to get deals done. We know they stated all offseason that Dak was the priority, and we also know that Stephen and Dak both said that negotiations were not active earlier this summer. Can we be 100% sure that they didn't make an offer to Lamb? Absolutely not, but I think its a pretty safe bet that the Cowboys like to negotiate with players close to or during camp to use that leverage to their advantage against the player.

Regardless this is all on the Cowboys. If they were truly negotiating with Lamb in good faith back in March and Lamb wasn't playing ball that is when they should have looked at trade options.

The Lamb situation still has time to end up fine for all sides, but as of right now we have the top weapon on this offense holding out. The only reason that happens is that the team allows it or the team doesn't get out in front of the situation to prevent it. Either way the Cowboys have waited to make a decision in hopes that the player changes their demands.
 

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Wrong I mean do you guys not pay attention to anything that happens in the NFL they literally could put the tag on him franchise tag then if somebody wants him guess what they have to do give up draft picks to get him literally it's still there and he will be playing this year because he's not gonna give up $1,000,000 of game and his free agent status you do realize that this guy doesn't play enough games this year he loses this year of eligibility for his free agencies back to square one next year.. He will be playing game one bookmark it take the receipts even if he doesn't have a new deal he will be playing in next year if he doesn't get a deal they'll just franchise tag him and they'll have to give up what a first round pick maybe two first rounders and they have to still pay CD Lam we still own him the only player that we do not have the rights to that's a mess right now is Prescott we have no leverage whatsoever but with Parsons and lamb we have years to play with these dudes if we want to and if they get so mad and force a trade the Cowboys will get lots of picks what do you mean they can't demand anything he's a valuable now as he will be next year if they think he's a #1 elite wide receiver nothing will change next year you cannot change him this year This is why Brandon iuke is having a problem right now because most of the big moves that were gonna be made are already been made you're not gonna get everything you want right now either by contract with the team you're on we're trying to force off the team there isn't a lot of suitors now would there be a lot more next year when you do it in March...

Somehow I think fans just skip over the fact that this player doesn't have as much leverage as you think and yes he deserves a new deal but he also has already under a fifth year contract he has signed for 2024 and he will be here because $1 million a game isn't Chuck changed Oh my God that Jerry Jones family so cheap they're only giving the guy $1 million a game.... Yup that's cheap to me even put Parsons under a fifth year it's $1.5 million a game and right now Prescott even on his last year of his deal is making a ton of money I think it's like 2.5 million for every game let that sink in because I wanna do this like car salesman do they don't wanna tell you the total cost of the car they want to show you what the payments are and make it look better but yeah let's show you what they're actually paying these players and why it's getting tough to sign this many players the new deals they all want market money they all want to be the next big man...

lamb will be on this team for 2024 , HE WILL PLAY and if he wants off it next year he's got to fight the tag, he has as much trade value next year as he does right now IF NOT MORE, ie more teams in the mix

the Cowboys aren't trading him right now ,he's going to be on this team.. I hope everyone gets settled with that sometimes this happens Chris Jones last year check up to one week before the season started to finally get his deal this happens all around the NFL this is not a Jones family thing this is just negotiations...took ES22 2 games in but it did happen.
All I said was Lamb has no trade value after this season. He has zero. They can trade him now. But not after the season.
 

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what is HILARIOUS to me is all of you keep saying they waited. You dont know that. You dont have a clue what has actually happened. You have no clue when the first offer was made, how much the offer was, what the terms were. They could have offered the most lucrative deal in NFL history to a Wr and Lamb said no because he wanted to wait on Jefferson.... but it would still have been the Cowboys waited, right?
if history is any indicator, and it usually is, they waited. They done it before. Time and time again. I am sticking to this.
 

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We know historically that Jerry loves to use deadlines to get deals done. We know they stated all offseason that Dak was the priority, and we also know that Stephen and Dak both said that negotiations were not active earlier this summer. Can we be 100% sure that they didn't make an offer to Lamb? Absolutely not, but I think its a pretty safe bet that the Cowboys like to negotiate with players close to or during camp to use that leverage to their advantage against the player.

Regardless this is all on the Cowboys. If they were truly negotiating with Lamb in good faith back in March and Lamb wasn't playing ball that is when they should have looked at trade options.

The Lamb situation still has time to end up fine for all sides, but as of right now we have the top weapon on this offense holding out. The only reason that happens is that the team allows it or the team doesn't get out in front of the situation to prevent it. Either way the Cowboys have waited to make a decision in hopes that the player changes their demands.
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what is HILARIOUS to me is all of you keep saying they waited. You dont know that. You dont have a clue what has actually happened. You have no clue when the first offer was made, how much the offer was, what the terms were. They could have offered the most lucrative deal in NFL history to a Wr and Lamb said no because he wanted to wait on Jefferson.... but it would still have been the Cowboys waited, right?
also, you have no clue that they did make an offer. We know this, they have a pattern of doing business this way. Why would they do it any different now? You seem smart. Think logically.
 

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All I said was Lamb has no trade value after this season. He has zero. They can trade him now. But not after the season.
Actually he has more trade value because when you franchise tagged the guy they're gonna have to trade draft picks and promise them a high contract I don't understand how you can not understand that they can't trade him now because there's not as many suitors you got brain and IU out there eating people up... I don't think you understand what the franchise tag is and I promise you if they don't get a deal done he will be tagged next year and he will not be going anywhere without a trade do you understand what a franchise tag means they must give you a draft pick he is not a full free agent they will tag him this is the type of player you tagged they tagged Prescott you don't think they're gonna tag lamb?

I say he'll have more people involved early in free agency when more teams will be actively trying to get him then right now almost everybody's rosters are set he has less trade value right now than I than in March when they tag him he is not a full free agent is dak, the only one with a no trade clause and that can't be tagged and he's gone if he doesn't get a new contract that is not the case with Parsons or lamb they won't tag them to death...
 

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We know Lamb is important to the team. We know Lamb wants an extension now. We know he is holding out of training camp. We know Jerry Jones owns the Cowboys. We know a deal is not done.
Lamb asked for 43 million per season. Stupid Jerry..... get it done!
 

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also, you have no clue that they did make an offer. We know this, they have a pattern of doing business this way. Why would they do it any different now? You seem smart. Think logically.
Tell me when they have had 2 players at the top of the salary schedule needing deals at the same time. Show me, historically, when this has happened in Dallas... AND having Parsons sitting there in the wings as well. name me a single team in the NFL right now that has the top 2 players at their position, money wise... and a 3rd that is going to want o be the highest paid non qb in NFL history sitting there waiting.
 

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Tell me when they have had 2 players at the top of the salary schedule needing deals at the same time. Show me, historically, when this has happened in Dallas... AND having Parsons sitting there in the wings as well. name me a single team in the NFL right now that has the top 2 players at their position, money wise... and a 3rd that is going to want o be the highest paid non qb in NFL history sitting there waiting.
I don’t believe any team has ever found themselves in that situation. Most teams, however, make a decision on whether or not they intend to keep a player and sign them to extensions immediately after making the decision.
 

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Tell me when they have had 2 players at the top of the salary schedule needing deals at the same time. Show me, historically, when this has happened in Dallas... AND having Parsons sitting there in the wings as well. name me a single team in the NFL right now that has the top 2 players at their position, money wise... and a 3rd that is going to want o be the highest paid non qb in NFL history sitting there waiting.
We act like this situation is so unique to the Cowboys, but teams give out 3 mega contracts around the same time pretty frequently. I didn't look up exactly where they ranked at the time of signing but they gave out DLaw ($20m AAV), zeek ($15M), and Cooper ($20m) all within a year in 2019. 2013 they had Romo, Lee, and Tyron Smith extensions all hit within a year. 2008 they extended Flozell Adams, TO, Roy Williams, and DWare around the same time.

Jacksonville just extended Lawrence ($55M), Campbell ($19M), and Hines-Allen ($28M)

Miami has signed Tua ($53M), Waddle ($28M), Chubb ($22M), and Ramsey($18M) all in the last year and extended Hill ($30M). Philly signed Hurts to a record deal last year and this year signed AJ Brown to a deal north of $30M aav, Landon Dickerson , DeVonta Smtih, and Jordan Mailata all got extensions too.....and that is in addition to them signing Saquon ($12.5m), CCJ ($9M), Huff ($17m) in free agency as well.

No this isn't a direct apples to apples to the Cowboys situation as they have three of the top paid positions up all at the same tiem, but teams are having no issues spending money. The Cowboys have known 2024 was coming, it's not like we haven't been talking about these same contracts for over a year now. It also only gets worse as we see who is coming up soon in Bland, OSA, Tyler Smith, etc. At some point the Cowboys will have to be proactive in getting these guys signed or sell them off for future assets. They have very little history of doing this and it's exactly why they are in such a bad contract situation currently.
 

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why? If the goal this season was for Jerry "I'm mad!" Jones to make them prove it..why not let Dak fail before he hits FA?
I agree and think this is why its different than Zekes holdout a few years ago. I think Jerry is pretty content with whatever happens this season and isnt going to blink. If they shock the world and win the superbowl then he looks like a genius in his 'all in' approach. But if these guys fail then he gets to start over with a new HC, QB, and make a ton of headlines in different ways. I'm sure his preference is to win games, but I don't think Jerry cares too much if this team goes 12-5 or 5-12.
 

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I don’t believe any team has ever found themselves in that situation. Most teams, however, make a decision on whether or not they intend to keep a player and sign them to extensions immediately after making the decision.

We act like this situation is so unique to the Cowboys, but teams give out 3 mega contracts around the same time pretty frequently. I didn't look up exactly where they ranked at the time of signing but they gave out DLaw ($20m AAV), zeek ($15M), and Cooper ($20m) all within a year in 2019. 2013 they had Romo, Lee, and Tyron Smith extensions all hit within a year. 2008 they extended Flozell Adams, TO, Roy Williams, and DWare around the same time.

Jacksonville just extended Lawrence ($55M), Campbell ($19M), and Hines-Allen ($28M)

Miami has signed Tua ($53M), Waddle ($28M), Chubb ($22M), and Ramsey($18M) all in the last year and extended Hill ($30M). Philly signed Hurts to a record deal last year and this year signed AJ Brown to a deal north of $30M aav, Landon Dickerson , DeVonta Smtih, and Jordan Mailata all got extensions too.....and that is in addition to them signing Saquon ($12.5m), CCJ ($9M), Huff ($17m) in free agency as well.

No this isn't a direct apples to apples to the Cowboys situation as they have three of the top paid positions up all at the same tiem, but teams are having no issues spending money. The Cowboys have known 2024 was coming, it's not like we haven't been talking about these same contracts for over a year now. It also only gets worse as we see who is coming up soon in Bland, OSA, Tyler Smith, etc. At some point the Cowboys will have to be proactive in getting these guys signed or sell them off for future assets. They have very little history of doing this and it's exactly why they are in such a bad contract situation currently.
Sign Dallas up for Lawrence, Campbell and Hines-Allen money.... or Tua, Waddle, Chubb money. Dak wants several million more than Tua, and Lamb wants way more than waddle... so the comparisons aret even close. we are talking top paid QB, WR, and top EVER defesive player. Knowing its coming and just bending over to accept whatever the layers wnats are two different things.
 

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what is HILARIOUS to me is all of you keep saying they waited. You dont know that. You dont have a clue what has actually happened. You have no clue when the first offer was made, how much the offer was, what the terms were. They could have offered the most lucrative deal in NFL history to a Wr and Lamb said no because he wanted to wait on Jefferson.... but it would still have been the Cowboys waited, right?
Im pretty sure Jerry said "Im going to wait for the tea leaves" or whatever but yeah he waited because he wanted to see what other WR were getting..same with the QB...
 

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Sign Dallas up for Lawrence, Campbell and Hines-Allen money.... or Tua, Waddle, Chubb money. Dak wants several million more than Tua, and Lamb wants way more than waddle... so the comparisons aret even close. we are talking top paid QB, WR, and top EVER defesive player. Knowing its coming and just bending over to accept whatever the layers wnats are two different things.
The issue is the Cowboys should not be caught off guard by what any of these guys are looking for financially. The difference in annual salary between Waddle and what Lamb will make is likely 1 maybe 2% of the cap. This really should not be the difference in getting a deal done or not, and if it is a deal breaker for the Cowboys this all could have been avoided months ago...maybe even a year ago by having real negotiations with these guys and exploring mutual separations via trade if they were too far apart on numbers.

The big reason a guy like Trevor Lawrence isnt an issue with his major contract is that he signed an extension with two years of control of his rookie deal. Waddle same story, he signed with two years on his rookie deal. Amon Ra St Brown signed year 3. Jalen Hurts signed after year 3. The Cowboys on the other hand decided to play the franchise tag game with Dak, and now are waiting until his deal is basically up to negotiate. Lamb is on his 5th year option. Parsons is about to be on his 5th year option. The issue really isnt the AAV these guys are going to make, it's literally the fact that the Cowboys wait until the last minute to make decisions on these player.

If the Cowboys would actually sign parsons now after his 3rd season they would have two additional years where he is making just 2.1% and 7.8% of the cap to spread what is soon to be a massive number across over more years. Had they signed Lamb last season, not only would his cap number be closer to what Waddle is making, but they could have worked some of that cap hit into his 2023 number which was just 1.9% of the cap.

The Cowboys are in this position not because they have so much more talent than the rest of the league, but because they continue to negotiate like it's 1997 and just hope to wait out the player. Other teams are either signing these guys early or looking at trade options. Meanwhile the Cowboys are looking at holdouts and collecting comp picks for their star players. If the Cowboys want to avoid bending over and accepting whatever they need to address these contracts first thing in the offseason and establish who they can keep and who they need to find other homes.
 

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I'm fine but thank you for your concern. If I came off a little overheated I didn't mean to. My subtle point was that this entire thread is an indictment of Dak Prescott. We can't have it both ways. Either dak is great and we need to pay him that also implies that we don't need CD lamb. If we need to pay CD lamb then that implies dak is not worth 60 million a year. Pat mahomes didn't need Tyreek Hill to win a super bowl so what's our excuse. BTW I don't really believe in this pay the position and not the player crap. And it appears the cowboys don't either. Don't forget next year we need to pay Micah Parsons and duron bland.
I for one am not arguing Dak is Patrick Mahomes. Neither is any other QB in the NFL. So does that mean NO ONE not names Patrick Mahomes should get market value? It does not work that way. Never has!

Should Dallas be the richest franchise in all of sports history since they don't win?
 

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We start it season without Lamb and Dak does a poor job, you better believe Jerry will be on the phone ASAP
And ruin Jerry's chance to possibly get a top 10 pick next draft?

The plan would be in full effect
 

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And ruin Jerry's chance to possibly get a top 10 pick next draft?

The plan would be in full effect
What exactly would we get with the top 10 another OT?? It's going to be a QB, now remember Jerry doesn't like that neither do the fans on here who are more important than Jerry and have all his money!!! They don't want us to start over they want it to be Dak for life
 
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