News: BR: Cowboys' Ezekiel Elliott Falls out of ESPN's Top 10 RB Rankings Voted by NFL Insiders

[tyke1doe]

Some of your opinions are just.... Really, really out there. Almost like you're trying to alienate yourself.

I'm sick and laughing hurts. But this comment had me

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Whatever you apologists may think, running and catching are the two most important skills of a back. Thats why they call them "running" backs.

Blocking backs are called fullbacks.

You think they pay Zeke 18 million for his blocking abilities?

In large part yes. They can't make an o line since fredbeard left. And Tony can't take that punishment.
If you like Dak you should be gratefull. Instead you whine incessantly like an ignored poodle.

 

[tyke1doe]

I was a big fan of Zeke's in college and was wishing the Cowboys had a chance to draft him. And they did.
I bucked the naysayers saying Zeke shouldn't have been taken as the fourth overall pick. We should have selected Jalen Ramsey instead.
Zeke's first year, the Cowboys' selection looked like a stroke of genius. Many thought Dak and Zeke would be tearing up the league for years.
But after that ...
Zeke has hit a decline, and, quite frankly, while I hope he will rebound, running backs rarely get better with age.
And with the contract Zeke signed a few years ago, I don't know if he can ever rekindle that fire.
So, I admit. I was wrong.
We should have taken Ramsey.
No, I don't rue we didn't.
Just admitting that maybe Zeke wasn't the right pick.
Very disappointed in Zeke.
Very.

 

[CowboyRoy]

How are you going to regulate how I gauge the RB position? I look long term instead of being short sighted. So that fact that you tried to get me to stop thinking long term means you see the flaws in your train of thought. How good can a RB be if he has no chance of making it into the Hall of Fame. Barkley has HOF talent, but he also has injury problems. So how good is Barkley, really?

So if you want to gauge RB's without thinking about the HOF that's you. But don't sit here and act like I've cheated.

So what is your point? He used to be good? I have to agree with you there.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yah, but he had a great blocking day.

 

[jazzcat22]

Anemic Zeke will continue to handicap our offense as long as he keeps getting more touches than Pollard.

12-31 in the playoffs vs SF. A complete non-factor. Useless. Dak was our leading rusher that day.

9 yard long run for Zeke...Pollard, 4 -14 with an 8 yard long run...
So 11-22 vs. 3-6.... if removing the long runs.
Be fair about it.

 

[jazzcat22]

But he is looking lean right now

Pretty soon there will be a tweet he's in the best shape of his career.

At least he looks in shape. Unlike Fournette reporting in at 30 pound overweight at 260.

 

[Nav22]

9 yard long run for Zeke...Pollard, 4 -14 with an 8 yard long run...
So 11-22 vs. 3-6.... if removing the long runs.
Be fair about it.

You’re the one who’s not being fair.

Zeke had more than twice as many carries and they had the same number of “long runs”, so that’s still advantage: Pollard.

If Pollard was the one with 12 carries instead of Zeke, maybe he breaks one of them for 40. There’s no debate as to which RB is more explosive.

 

[jazzcat22]

You’re the one who’s not being fair.

Zeke had more than twice as many carries and they had the same number of “long runs”, so that’s still advantage: Pollard.

If Pollard was the one with 12 carries instead of Zeke, maybe he breaks one of them for 40. There’s no debate as to which RB is more explosive.

Average is what many Zeke dislikers trot out there against him, so now it can't be used against Pollard?

Typical double standards.

Zeke could have busted one for 40 as well with more carries also.

 

[Nav22]

Average is what many Zeke dislikers trot out there against him, so now it can't be used against Pollard?

Typical double standards.

Zeke could have busted one for 40 as well with more carries also.

What are you talking about?

Zeke averaged 1 “long run” in 12 carries, Pollard averaged 1 “long run” in 5 carries... advantage: Pollard.

Zeke averaged 2.6 yards/carry that day, Pollard averaged 4.4 yards/carry that day... advantage: Pollard.

How do the “averages” hurt Pollard?

 

[starfan1]

He ate, partied and Cabo’d his way out of the HOF. Guy had a rookie year for the ages and has been declining since.

I was incredibly impressed in 16 but i also know we could have plugged in literally any back to get similar numbers. 14-18 was definately the Olines best years. Hope they have done enough to shore up the problems.

 

[jazzcat22]

What are you talking about?

Zeke averaged 1 “long run” in 12 carries, Pollard averaged 1 “long run” in 5 carries... advantage: Pollard.

Zeke averaged 2.6 yards/carry that day, Pollard averaged 4.4 yards/carry that day... advantage: Pollard.

How do the “averages” hurt Pollard?

I did not say they hurt Pollard.
I said remove the long runs and they were the same. But yet Zeke's run was longer than Pollards.

Your beloved Pollard was not a difference maker that day either.

 

[Nav22]

I did not say they hurt Pollard.
I said remove the long runs and they were the same. But yet Zeke's run was longer than Pollards.

Your beloved Pollard was not a difference maker that day either.

“Average is what many Zeke dislikers trot out there against him, so now it can't be used against Pollard?“

How can one use the numbers you provided... against Pollard and not against Zeke?

If anything, you made Zeke look even worse. Pollard had 8 fewer carries and only 17 fewer yards.

Removing each of their “long runs” means you’re removing 25% of Pollard’s carries and only 8% of Zeke’s carries.

Zeke was trash.

 

[jazzcat22]

“Average is what many Zeke dislikers trot out there against him, so now it can't be used against Pollard?“

How can one use the numbers you provided... against Pollard and not against Zeke?

If anything, you made Zeke look even worse. Pollard had 8 fewer carries and only 17 fewer yards.

Removing each of their “long runs” means you’re removing 25% of Pollard’s carries and only 8% of Zeke’s carries.

Zeke was trash.

Whatever, but you are wrong. Done wasting my time with you on this.

 

[Nav22]

Whatever, but you are wrong. Done wasting my time with you on this.

Facts, schmacts... the math is “wrong“.