BR - Realistic Expectations for Cowboys Rookie class

[Alexander]

No offense to whoever wrote that...but I have yet to see anyone on this forum say that they expect Taco to fix the cowboys pass rush...if anything I think the best I have seen say that if he gets 6-8 Sacks it would be a good thing.

True, but it just seems that a lot of people have the expectation that 2nd and 3rd round picks like Awuzie and Lewis will "fix" the secondary too.

They are going to take time and make mistakes also.

 

[Bullflop]

This is what I have said all along. We have all LDE. And Tacos film to me shows his best plays were on the left side in COLLEGE. Hard to imagine him becoming a RDE right away if ever. His body type and athletic traits seems more suited to the LDE role.

I think that's where he's going to end up once TC is over with. The way things are going, Damontre Moore is likely be our RDE, imho. No point in trying to put a square peg into a round hole if production in TC doesn't indicate being a sack master. Damontre has been doing well in that respect so far. I think the staff might make their decision to change their thinking once TC is well into progress.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

True, but it just seems that a lot of people have the expectation that 2nd and 3rd round picks like Awuzie and Lewis will "fix" the secondary too.

They are going to take time and make mistakes also.

Well I think most are willing to give them a little time at CB to learn if they are forced into the fray. However at the same time I think many viewed this draft of DBs better than the DEs and we just happened to have the better DEs (perceived better DEs at this time) taken before us. And even with some of those I think there were only a couple DEs that the majority thought were great or could really be that difference maker for us at DE.

With all of that said, and it is mostly opinion...it would be crazy if it turned out the opposite...Where Taco turns out to be the difference maker and plays good enough to be in the talks for DROY and our group of DBs we drafted really fall flat the next few years.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think that's where he's going to end up once TC is over with. The way things are going, Damontre Moore is likely be our RDE, imho.

Agreed...probably wind up being a good run stopping DE.

Problem is...we have a bunch of those even if in rotation, we need a difference maker at RDE rushing the Passer from the edge.

Irving might be that after last year...but we also thought Selvie was going to have a better second year as well. Maybe Moore is the guy...Heck Maybe Taco is...but like you, he seems like a run stopping guy or better suited for that.

I guess we will find out. I think how he performs in Preseason will be the telling of it. If he struggles against other teams LTs...that should be a sign lol.

 

[CCBoy]

Well I think most are willing to give them a little time at CB to learn if they are forced into the fray. However at the same time I think many viewed this draft of DBs better than the DEs and we just happened to have the better DEs (perceived better DEs at this time) taken before us. And even with some of those I think there were only a couple DEs that the majority thought were great or could really be that difference maker for us at DE.

With all of that said, and it is mostly opinion...it would be crazy if it turned out the opposite...Where Taco turns out to be the difference maker and plays good enough to be in the talks for DROY and our group of DBs we drafted really fall flat the next few years.

Some say that Dallas came away with two of the top five cornerbacks in this draft...I'd hedge my betting that direction.

 

[Bullflop]

Agreed...probably wind up being a good run stopping DE.

Problem is...we have a bunch of those even if in rotation, we need a difference maker at RDE rushing the Passer from the edge.

Irving might be that after last year...but we also thought Selvie was going to have a better second year as well. Maybe Moore is the guy...Heck Maybe Taco is...but like you, he seems like a run stopping guy or better suited for that.

I guess we will find out. I think how he performs in Preseason will be the telling of it. If he struggles against other teams LTs...that should be a sign lol.

I agree -- what Charlton did in college is indicative of someone who is suited for the left side rather than the right. I'd almost bet Damontre will be the one to win the RDE post. If not, it might well be someone else with the quickness and speed to cause trouble, if one comes forth.

 

[Kaiser]

My expectations for Taco are mainly that he'll be solid vs. the run and get mostly hurries and a few sacks his rookie year.

Anything that occurs over and above that, I will likely consider as gravy. Rookie DEs just take time to develop.

As he gains experience and develops through weight training, more sacks will come. Baby steps.

I think Taco will play well his rookie year and do better than "a few sacks", but I don't even agree with this article that he will start. Coming out of OTA's he might be our 3rd string LDE depending on how Irving played and if they move DLaw to LDE.

 

[Bullflop]

I think Taco will play well his rookie year and do better than "a few sacks", but I don't even agree with this article that he will start. Coming out of OTA's he might be our 3rd string LDE depending on how Irving played and if they move DLaw to LDE.

I can only hope you're right about more than a few sacks being in Taco's initial year, although the jump from college to pro ball is huge. We'll see what occurs in TC soon enough. I'm betting there's a strong possibility that the staff will decide to put Damontre on the right and use Charlton on the left in due time. Just guessing, though -- anything can happen between now and then.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Switzer will be the best pick in the class.

I'm gong to say 1200 yards and 14 total TDs with 6 of them being punt returns

Ive got the over under at 2. He may not get td's, but he will change the field position many times in our favor during the season.

 

[CCBoy]

6 punt returns for TD's?

Is that for his career?

He was being enthusiastic...you?

 

[Bullflop]

Some say that Dallas came away with two of the top five cornerbacks in this draft...I'd hedge my betting that direction.

They played "lights out" in college. I'm betting they'll make their mistakes early on, then start to blossom by midseason. Let us pray...

 

[CCBoy]

I agree -- what Charlton did in college is indicative of someone who is suited for the left side rather than the right. I'd almost bet Damontre will be the one to win the RDE post. If not, it might well be someone else with the quickness and speed to cause trouble, if one comes forth.

In the NFL, left is right, sometimes...but size sometimes improves ability to rush as well. You really going to worry about side with a Reggie White? He was chosen by the Memphis Showboats in the 1984 USFL Territorial Draft. Then signed with Philadelphia when the AFL folded. Think he was the top of the chart when he left Tennessee?

No, one adjusts according to the strengths of personnel.

 

[Hardline]

 

[Bullflop]

In the NFL, left is right, sometimes...but size sometimes improves ability to rush as well. You really going to worry about side with a Reggie White? He was chosen by the Memphis Showboats in the 1984 USFL Territorial Draft. Then signed with Philadelphia when the AFL folded. Think he was the top of the chart when he left Tennessee?

No, one adjusts according to the strengths of personnel.

Routinely, quickness and speed is preferred on the right and strength is preferred on the left. I'm not saying it's written in stone -- just allowing my imagination to take me away to an answer for the best place for a big, strong guy to do his thing. I'll be happy to see Taco play anyplace where he can find success. Taco's strength was mainly thought to be as a run stopper in college. That's at the crux of my thinking. Why do you mention Reggie White? Putting Taco in THAT category already? If so, why?

 

[Direwolf63]

He was being enthusiastic...you?

I'm a little more grounded in my expectations for Switzer. If he gets 1 TD from punt returns, I'd be happy.

If he gets 4 TD's all-purpose in total, I think that would be a successful rookie season.

 

[CCBoy]

Routinely, quickness and speed is preferred on the right and strength is preferred on the left. I'm not saying it's written in stone -- just allowing my imagination to take me away to an answer for the best place for a big, strong guy to do his thing. I'll be happy to see Taco play anyplace where he can find success. Taco's strength was mainly thought to be as a run stopper in college. That's at the crux of my thinking. Why do you mention Reggie White? Putting Taco in THAT category already? If so, why?

In player development, one just never knows until one grabs a plate at the table with adults. Reggie had some injury and was picked up by the AFL. What, he was on the express lane for the Hall?

Going the other way, NO 'rook' compares in the general arena for success. Think DeMarcus Ware was guaranteed NFL successes when Parcells first wanted a 3-4 defensive end first?

 

[CCBoy]

I'm a little more grounded in my expectations for Switzer. If he gets 1 TD from punt returns, I'd be happy.

If he gets 4 TD's all-purpose in total, I think that would be a successful rookie season.

Understood...but the guy was excited. I'm more in your neck of the woods on expectations, perhaps a little more grounded as to numbers. Return TD's are really tough.

 

[jrumann59]

Anyone thinking a rookie DE out of the box will fix you pass rush woes, probably thinks quincy carter was a good qb.

 

[Zekeats]

Nothing is realistic from the bleacher report

 

[AsthmaField]

No offense to whoever wrote that...but I have yet to see anyone on this forum say that they expect Taco to fix the cowboys pass rush.

Exactly.

Don't know where this guy is getting that from.