Brad Sham - Do Not Adjust. The Second-Half Problem Is Not With Your Set

Dre11

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As I said there are several ways to accomplish this. Not just double the guy.

But from this post I can only determine you feel there was nothing that could be done. Unless you have left something out of this discussion.

I don't feel that expectations of a head coach to get involved with his coordinators to resolve an issue over half time is out of nth question. I also don't put up straw man arguments about the need for same.


Like what? What could they have done more, than roll the pocket away from that side, run at the hole on that side, chip, leave a back in, without compromising the integrity of your whole offense in the middle of the game? Oh and it wasn't just Green that didn't play well on the line.
 

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Like what? What could they have done more, than roll the pocket away from that side, run at the hole on that side, chip, leave a back in, without compromising the integrity of your whole offense in the middle of the game? Oh and it wasn't just Green that didn't play well on the line.
they did very little of anything else as you pointed out they could have done a lot more variety which SHOULD have made a difference. But they did not even try that hard. Once again an indictment of our coaching staff
 

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Today on Talkin' Cowboys Bryan Broaddus laughed at this theory that the Cowboys coaching staff has a halftime adjustment problem. He said that's what "know-it-all" fans that really don't know anything say when they can't come up with any other explanation. I agree with him. Fans aren't even half as smart about NFL football as they think they are.

I've heard multiple ex-players and NFL coaches saying that we haven't made enough adjustment.
I'll believe the ex-players and coaches who actually played in games than an ex-scout.
 

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There's no such thing as "halftime adjustments." Biggest meaningless cliche in football.

Halftime is 12 minutes. Half that is spent leaving and returning to the field. Then guys pee. That leaves about one minute for "halftime adjustments."

Adjustments happen all game long. Mostly, players just execute or don't.

You really have a simplistic view of reality don't you?
 

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Execution. So how does that work? They draw up a plan and say go execute it.

Atlanta, their plan was for the left tackle to block the defensive end and give Dak enough time to work. That failed because they guy could not execute that plan.

So in your estimation, at half time what should be done? Since your position is merely go execute, then the left tackle just needs to block the guy. Which is what the team essentially did. They brought a tight in over once, but abandoned that.

The results is the guy could not stop the defensive end who got 5 sacks.

An adjustment would have been to chip the defensive end with a running back on some plays. Move a tight end on some plays. Maybe throw screens to that guys side. Stretch the offense horizontally to force that guy to stop rushing straight up the field. You saw this in the first half of the Eagles game.

But then half time comes and the other team makes an adjustment and Dallas becomes neutered.

It isn't as black and white as you paint it.
Exactly right. Sometimes the plan (or lack thereof) just sux.
 

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I've heard multiple ex-players and NFL coaches saying that we haven't made enough adjustment.
I'll believe the ex-players and coaches who actually played in games than an ex-scout.
Everyone thinks they are Bill Belichick. The arrogance is running rampant. Everyone wants to give their two cents and not everyone is saying the same thing but they are all convince they know what they are talking about. They can't all be right.
 

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Everyone thinks they are Bill Belichick. The arrogance is running rampant. Everyone wants to give their two cents and not everyone is saying the same thing but they are all convince they know what they are talking about. They can't all be right.

So you think everyone thinks they are Bill Bellichick and arrogant yet you want to believe what Broaddus has to say? You think everybody is wrong but Broaddus is right? OK. Whatever floats your boat.
 

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So you think everyone thinks they are Bill Bellichick and arrogant yet you want to believe what Broaddus has to say? You think everybody is wrong but Broaddus is right? OK. Whatever floats your boat.
No, I already believed everyone didn't know what they are talking about before Broaddus reaffirmed it.
 

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No, I already believed everyone didn't know what they are talking about before Broaddus reaffirmed it.

You can believe what you want but I'll trust what an ex-player or ex-coaches has to say over what an ex-scout has to say.
 

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You can believe what you want but I'll trust what an ex-player or ex-coaches has to say over what an ex-scout has to say.

It's so easy to say that without specifying who you are talking about being right. Do you know how many different things are being said by ex-players/coaches that are contradicting each other. They are not all right and you are assuming Broaddus is wrong without even hearing him out on what he said exactly. I think you'll say anything just to argue and be a contrarian.
 

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It's so easy to say that without specifying who you are talking about being right. Do you know how many different things are being said by ex-players/coaches that are contradicting each other. They are not all right and you are assuming Broaddus is wrong without even hearing him out on what he said exactly. I think you'll say anything just to argue and be a contrarian.

So you think they are not all correct yet you think Broaddus is? As I said, You can believe what you want. I'll believe the players/coaches who actually played/coached in real games over someone who didn't.
 

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So you think they are not all correct yet you think Broaddus is? As I said, You can believe what you want. I'll believe the players/coaches who actually played/coached in real games over someone who didn't.
Some of those players/coaches agree with Broaddus. I believe there are a lot of arrogant idiots walking around thinking they know something when they actually have no clue. You are entitled to your opinion just don't insist it is correct.
 

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Well the Eagles came out and started running the ball in the 2nd half. I guess Pederson decided to do that, but it was an adjustment and it worked to the tune of over 200 yds. I believe they had 35 in the first half.
 

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Like what? What could they have done more, than roll the pocket away from that side, run at the hole on that side, chip, leave a back in, without compromising the integrity of your whole offense in the middle of the game? Oh and it wasn't just Green that didn't play well on the line.
The coaches acted like they had never seen the wide 9 defence before, or were surprised by it. The Eagles used it a couple years ago and we would tear them apart. Why does it take so long for them to see what's happened and adjust?

How did the Eagles scout Irving enough to know he leans heavily when attacking a lineman, and they pulled off runs behind him four times with out seemingly any counter or adjustment in how Irving attacked?

Any coaching staff can watch tape after the fact and see where they went wrong, I want a coaching staff that can see the issues on the fly, or the very least, attack weaknesses they see in the opposition. We play the same game no matter who we're against. Shut down our running game and we most likely lose. Need to be more than that as a team
 

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Some of those players/coaches agree with Broaddus. I believe there are a lot of arrogant idiots walking around thinking they know something when they actually have no clue. You are entitled to your opinion just don't insist it is correct.

I'm not insisting it's correct. I was just pointing out that you think everyone is wrong and what you believe is correct just because Broaddus said so.
 

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they did very little of anything else as you pointed out they could have done a lot more variety which SHOULD have made a difference. But they did not even try that hard. Once again an indictment of our coaching staff
Simply isn't true.

Saying it doesn't make it true.

They helped him on a ton of plays, rolled away from him and then benched him. What about doing everything up and including benching a guy constitutes as "they did not even try that hard."

Do you know how hard it is to get benched in an actual game as it is happening?
 

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Which of my statements do you disagree with? I said he was given significant help. I also said that even the best pass rushers cannot be doubled every single play nor can one man be given help on every single play. Do you agree or disagree?

Furthermore I asked another question considering in all the games we have won this season we have won the 2nd half did we make adjustments in those games or did the other team not make adjustments? I'm just trying to understand where people stand on the issue.

I don't believe he had significant help.

I think the team attempts to make half time adjustments always. But even in the game if something is not working they need to do a better job.

franckly I have seen this team use a full back on short yardage. If the DE for Atlanta could not be stopped, I might have used a fullback and run right at him.

I do my coaching in from a couch. Pretty certain my suggestions wouldn't work. But then I am not paid 5 million a yard to see that they do.
 

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Because they're talking to fans? Because it's entertainment? Because it's a common trope? Because you can sound smart and never be proven wrong?

I'm pretty certain I am not as knowledgeable as some here. Yet I have heard coaches for many decades talk about half time adjustments. So your theory is they are just placating fans. And ignoring how to improve their design or tweak it to win the game.

Pardon me if I think that is not based in anything but conjecture.
 
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