Bradie James

[theogt]

The evidence that it was his zone was that both the RG and the RT blocked inside immediately after the snap. The TE was blocking the zone outside of the RT.

The evidence that it wasn't his zone was that he looked upset after the play. I'll let the viewer's at home decide which is more convincing.

If they hadn't been "zone blocking" to their left, they would have probably been able to pick up the blitz. The RG would have doubled teamed the LDE and the RT would have slid off and blocked James. But because of the zone blocking they were out of position and unable to pick up the blitz. It wasn't a mistake, it's simply a result of the scheme.

 

[dargonking999]

The play was a run to the right, the line was suppose to block down the line. Spears rolled down the line and James came around spears to the hole opened, and made the play before the RT could adujust. Not a missed assignment, perfect play call for the play that was ran.

 

[Rack]

The evidence that it was his zone was that both the RG and the RT blocked inside immediately after the snap. The TE was blocking the zone outside of the RT.

The evidence that it wasn't his zone was that he looked upset after the play. I'll let the viewer's at home decide which is more convincing.

If they hadn't been "zone blocking" to their left, they would have probably been able to pick up the blitz. The RG would have doubled teamed the LDE and the RT would have slid off and blocked James. But because of the zone blocking they were out of position and unable to pick up the blitz. It wasn't a mistake, it's simply a result of the scheme.

That's not what I presented as evidence, that's what YOUR ignorant arse SAYS I presented as evidence.

So now you're resorting to acting like a child?


Ok, none of the OL messed up then? A good offensive minded coach like Gary Kubiak just had a brain fart and designed a play where there's a gaping hole right over the tackle?

So if he was doing his job correctly, and Spears would of charged straight upfield instead of slanting in, then it would of been spears that made the tackle in the backfield? Cuz, as you said, they both did their jobs correctly, so that means that no one had that zone.

It's a flaw in the system, eh?




And the RT didn't block inside "Immediatly" after the snap, he went with Spears, then realized he screwed up and tried to pick up James. It's real freakin' simple, even someone as ill-informed as you should be able to figure it out.


The RT was supposed to take A step inside, but he overextended and went in to far, opening the giant hole for James to run through. It's right there on the video. If you weren't so afraid to admitting you are wrong, you'd see it.

 

[Rack]

The play was a run to the right, the line was suppose to block down the line. Spears rolled down the line and James came around spears to the hole opened, and made the play before the RT could adujust. Not a missed assignment, perfect play call for the play that was ran.

The play wasn't run to the right, it was up the gut, if anything to the left of the center. The RT got sucked too far inside by Spears. It's right there on the video.

 

[Rack]

The evidence that it was his zone was that both the RG and the RT blocked inside immediately after the snap.

Watch it again, the RT doesn't block inside immediately after the snap.

First thing he does is pop straight up and look directly at spears, he sees spears go inside and goes with him. Then James comes outside and the RT tries to come off Spears to get him.


It's OBVIOUS.

 

[theogt]

That's not what I presented as evidence, that's what YOUR ignorant arse SAYS I presented as evidence.

No, that's all you presented as evidence. Oh, wait. There was the part about him flailing his arm at James. Conclusive evidence for sure!

Ok, none of the OL messed up then? A good offensive minded coach like Gary Kubiak just had a brain fart and designed a play where there's a gaping hole right over the tackle?

No, he didn't have a brain fart. We just had the perfect play called at the right time. They had 2 offensive players trying to block 3 defenders. That's the purpose of the blitz -- to get a situation where you can have one player going unblocked to the backfield.

So if he was doing his job correctly, and Spears would of charged straight upfield instead of slanting in, then it would of been spears that made the tackle in the backfield? Cuz, as you said, they both did their jobs correctly, so that means that no one had that zone.

No, he was doing his job correctly. He was blocking Spears. That was his job. And he did it. If Spears had not slanted inside, the RT wouldn't have gone as far inside. That's part of the design of the blitz. The LDE slants inside and the OLB takes the gap outside the TE. These two assignments force the OT inside and the TE outside, leaving a big gaping hole for the ILB to run through. That's just the design of the play. It worked.

It's a flaw in the system, eh?

No, it was just the perfect play called at the right time.

And the RT didn't block inside "Immediatly" after the snap, he went with Spears, then realized he screwed up and tried to pick up James. It's real freakin' simple, even someone as ill-informed as you should be able to figure it out.

He blocked inside immediately at the snap. It's on video.

The RT was supposed to take A step inside, but he overextended and went in to far, opening the giant hole for James to run through. It's right there on the video. If you weren't so afraid to admitting you are wrong, you'd see it.

If he hadn't blocked inside, Spears would have busted through the LOS. The RT was simply squared up with Spears. He didn't "overextend." He was just doing his job.

You're just digging yourself deeper and deeper, dude.

 

[Rack]

No, that's all you presented as evidence. Oh, wait. There was the part about him flailing his arm at James. Conclusive evidence for sure!

Then you must be stupid cuz that's not what I presented as evidence.

And what you presented as evidence (the RT "going inside immediately after the snap" isn't even factual).

No, he didn't have a brain fart. We just had the perfect play called at the right time. They had 2 offensive players trying to block 3 defenders. That's the purpose of the blitz -- to get a situation where you can have one player going unblocked to the backfield.

BS. The only thing that made it "Perfect" is that it did it's job and confused/fooled the OL. Period. It's right there on the video.

And there isn't 3 defenders involved. Only 2. The RG and RT should of blocked Spears and James.

This isn't rocket science, Theo. Although it probably seems like it to you.

No, he was doing his job correctly. He was blocking Spears. That was his job. And he did it. If Spears had not slanted inside, the RT wouldn't have gone as far inside. That's part of the design of the blitz. The LDE slants inside and the OLB takes the gap outside the TE. These two assignments force the OT inside and the TE outside, leaving a big gaping hole for the ILB to run through. That's just the design of the play. It worked.

You're partly right, only he didn't do his job correctly. He went TOO FAR inside which is what that defensive play was designed to do. He sucked the RT too far inside and it created a hole for James to go through.

If you had any objectivity whatsoever you'd see this.

No, it was just the perfect play called at the right time.

He blocked inside immediately at the snap. It's on video.

No, he didn't. You're just plain ignorant if you think that's blocking inside immediately after the snap. His FIRST STEP is back, not left. He's looking DIRECTLY at spears, sees spears shoot inside and goes with him.

How much film have you actually studied as a football player? Evidently, not very much.

If he hadn't blocked inside, Spears would have busted through the LOS. The RT was simply squared up with Spears. He didn't "overextend." He was just doing his job.

He did his job, incorrectly. The RG should of picked up spears as Spears went right into his Zone. James came right through the RT's zone, only he wasn't there cuz Spears sucked him too far inside.

This isn't rocket science, Theo. If you swallow your pride for a second you'd see this.

You're just digging yourself deeper and deeper, dude.

You're the one with the shovel here, Chico, not me.

 

[theogt]

I think you've thoroughly embarassed yourself in this thread. I'll leave you alone for now.

 

[Rack]

Watch the video again, Theo. Watch the RT's feet. His first step is his Right foot going back, not his left foot going left. His eyes are DIRECTLY POINTED AT SPEARS. He goes with Spears for two to three steps, then sees James going outside and reaches for him.


You're worse then Nors when it comes to admitting you're wrong.

 

[Rack]

I think you've thoroughly embarassed yourself in this thread. I'll leave you alone for now.

That's right, walk away instead of admitting you're wrong.


You KNOW the RT didn't block inside immediately after the snap.


Please, ANYONE READING THIS THREAD, watch the video. Watch the close up part, and see what the RT does. Is he blocking down at the snap no matter what, or is he going there because he sees spears going there?


There's no way in hell this isn't obvious to almost everyone here.

Oh and by the way, if the RT had done his job, Spears wouldn't of gone unblocked cuz the RG actually DID do his job correctly. He stepped inside then looked outside and went to pick up spears. He was set up for spears correctly if the RB had been going through that hole, which is where he would of been if the RT did his job right.

Of all the debates we've had, Theo, you've never been more wrong.

 

[tomson75]

We need a theogt vs. ______ Zone. Just a thought. I love these threads.

 

[Clove]

I felt James was one of the few who had a good game against Houston.

Not only Houston but the first 2 games as well, and I guess I'm shocked by this cause I was leading the pack this off-season in "get rid of James" posts.

But I call it as I see it. He's been all over the field, so much so, that I've forgotten Ayodele has been on the field.

 

[theogt]

Not only Houston but the first 2 games as well, and I guess I'm shocked by this cause I was leading the pack this off-season in "get rid of James" posts.

But I call it as I see it. He's been all over the field, so much so, that I've forgotten Ayodele has been on the field.

Mea culpa. I feel the same way, though I don't think he looked very good in the first game. He has been impressive in the past two, but I haven't seen him tested too much in coverage, though, so I'm not sold -- yet. The new scheme keeps him close to the LOS, which is good, but I don't think if can completely mask his problems -- if they still exist.

 

[Bleu Star]

How about the play Bradie James made against a Texans where he had a tackle for a six-yard loss on a running play. He met the RB deep in the backfield. Overall, I think James is playing much better this preseason than he did last year. What does everyone else think?

Do you think this defensive scheme is better suited to James abilities?

I'll admit, during the offseason, I sold him down the river and was totally convinced BCarp was going to be starting in the middle this year. However, I won't be totally convince that he has "improved" until I see him string together a number of regular season games playing at the level he has played at in the preseason.

 

[Jack-Reacher]

Please, ANYONE READING THIS THREAD, watch the video. Watch the close up part, and see what the RT does. Is he blocking down at the snap no matter what, or is he going there because he sees spears going there?


There's no way in hell this isn't obvious to almost everyone here.

Actually I did watch the video multiple times like you suggested and I can't agree with you. He comes up out of his crouch, hesitates for a second and then blocks inside. This could be because he either saw Spears go that way, or because that was his designed blocking assignment. If his responsibility was Spears in that particular play he would hesitate to let Spears come to him, then when that didn't happen he followed to the inside. Either was/is plausible.

Either one of you could be correct. What fails to impress me is when you have to resort to calling somebody stupid or ignorant because they disagree with your view point. In my opinion you lost any validity you had in the debate.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

We need a theogt vs. ______ Zone.

:signmast:

 

[Rack]

Actually I did watch the video multiple times like you suggested and I can't agree with you. He comes up out of his crouch, hesitates for a second and then blocks inside. This could be because he either saw Spears go that way, or because that was his designed blocking assignment

You say you can't agree with me, yet... that's exactly what you just did.


I said he didn't block down immediately after the snap, and that's exactly what you said as well. He comes up (LIKE I SAID HE DID) THEN goes down.


Amazing.

 

[Rack]

What fails to impress me is when you have to resort to calling somebody stupid or ignorant because they disagree with your view point. In my opinion you lost any validity you had in the debate.

Does it impress you when someone says you made a claim you actually didn't make? Or accusing you of reasoning that wasn't actually reasoning?


And the only name I called anyone in this thread is "Chico". Oh the travesty!

 

[Stautner]

How about the play Bradie James made against a Texans where he had a tackle for a six-yard loss on a running play. He met the RB deep in the backfield. Overall, I think James is playing much better this preseason than he did last year. What does everyone else think?

Do you think this defensive scheme is better suited to James abilities?

Let's don't jump to conclusions. Hopefully he does play better this year, whether from fitting into the new scheme or just having his head screwed on a little better. Nevertheless, it's WAY too early to speculate.

I think we should be more concerned with Newman not playing and the total void of cb talent behind him. :laugh1:

Then start your own thread. The guy that started this one wanted to talk about James, so stick to the topic.