Brady loses top two receivers. gets shut out

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We really need to start tempo banning some threads / posters. Getting ridiculous
 

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It's why Rodgers probably should be favored over Brady for MVP. Rodgers went into Arizona missing his top 3 WRs and won. Brady looked pretty inept last night.

Brady looked like a 45 year old man trying to play QB.
 

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Lets see: Brady is 44 years old, 7 rings, took less than the going rate to surround himself with better talent, has done more with less throughout his career, is a lock first ballot hall of famer, should I go on? Yeah its ok to cut him a little slack. LOL! some of you people but but Brady, Lets call it a horrible comp and close the thread.
 

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People here have been claiming that "great QBs find a way" and that sort of thing when piling on Dak for not lighting teams up with his guys out.. Oh and how great did Kyler Murray look without D-Hop? It's amazing how ordinary a QB can look when the receiver group gets depleted. I know the ABD crowd doesn't wanna hear it but Dak and Moore have been working on getting this whole 2 deep shell coverage figured out. It would be a lot easier if they would run the damn ball more but Kellen Moore aint doin that unless Jerry himself is standing on the sidelines screaming at him to run the ball. But I digress.

Why do you blame Moore for not running? Dak is the one who is out there audibling. Dak is the one reading the defense and choosing which play to run. Moore gives usually two choices of plays to Dak. One run and one pass. Dak reads the defense and chooses the play. Perhaps Dak is not reading the defenses correctly and making poor audibles.

We don’t know who is at fault. My guess is that Dak is not reading the defenses correctly on numerous occasions and making the wrong audible.
 

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People here have been claiming that "great QBs find a way" and that sort of thing when piling on Dak for not lighting teams up with his guys out.. Oh and how great did Kyler Murray look without D-Hop? It's amazing how ordinary a QB can look when the receiver group gets depleted. I know the ABD crowd doesn't wanna hear it but Dak and Moore have been working on getting this whole 2 deep shell coverage figured out. It would be a lot easier if they would run the damn ball more but Kellen Moore aint doin that unless Jerry himself is standing on the sidelines screaming at him to run the ball. But I digress.
Say what you want, a bad day happens, the great ones don't keep having them. KM a problem now a new excuse, running game, WR, OL just more excuses. The O works to the limitations of the QB and his supporting cast, right now Dak is playing OK and driving the bus good, no compliant and no problem with that but to compare him to other great QB's is a homer view. Last I looked Dak had all his weapons and you know he looks average for a good stretch, so your point is what. I know it's an injury excuse right. Leave it alone they are winning because the D is playing lights out against some terrible O's let's wait till playoff time and quality opponent to judge Dak pro or con. Jerry a PROBLEM, agree but that's always been so. Right now, Dak has it it all, great D play, OL play WR and running game there just can't be any more excuses.
 

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Why do you blame Moore for not running? Dak is the one who is out there audibling. Dak is the one reading the defense and choosing which play to run. Moore gives usually two choices of plays to Dak. One run and one pass. Dak reads the defense and chooses the play. Perhaps Dak is not reading the defenses correctly and making poor audibles.

We don’t know who is at fault. My guess is that Dak is not reading the defenses correctly on numerous occasions and making the wrong audible.

Why do you guess this? Because you dislike Dak so that's easier to swallow than the boy genius is getting worked? Fine go with that.. And let's say it's 100% true.. If the QB is audibling to the wrong play over and over whose responsibility is it to pull him aside and whisper "run the damn ball" into his ear? Or why not give him TWO running plays if we really want to run? I am not saying Dak is getting the reads correct every time.. However I would point out that the offense absolutely functions at its best when going hurry up/no huddle.. You know who is calling the plays in that mode?

Let me hear you say it..

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But your original statement is accurate.. We don't know who is responsible for the unwillingness to run the ball. But we need to figure it out..
 

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I get the point of the OP but Brady seems to have some kind of issue with the Saints regardless of who is playing. It's weird. I have been saying all year that injuries matter to every team. You take a star player or a starter off the field and replace him with a backup and there is always a drop-off. But I do wonder if it were not the Saints the Bucs were playing, would Brady have been that awful, because he was just as bad the first time they played this year.
 

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People here have been claiming that "great QBs find a way" and that sort of thing when piling on Dak for not lighting teams up with his guys out.. Oh and how great did Kyler Murray look without D-Hop? It's amazing how ordinary a QB can look when the receiver group gets depleted. I know the ABD crowd doesn't wanna hear it but Dak and Moore have been working on getting this whole 2 deep shell coverage figured out. It would be a lot easier if they would run the damn ball more but Kellen Moore aint doin that unless Jerry himself is standing on the sidelines screaming at him to run the ball. But I digress.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Father Time was gently tapping on Tom Brady’s door with the ungentle reminder that the magic ends for ALL great athletes. The zip on his throws is starting to slow. Hmmmm…….

Father Time is undefeated. Brady is just delaying the inevitable.
 

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Say what you want, a bad day happens, the great ones don't keep having them. KM a problem now a new excuse, running game, WR, OL just more excuses. The O works to the limitations of the QB and his supporting cast, right now Dak is playing OK and driving the bus good, no compliant and no problem with that but to compare him to other great QB's is a homer view. Last I looked Dak had all his weapons and you know he looks average for a good stretch, so your point is what. I know it's an injury excuse right. Leave it alone they are winning because the D is playing lights out against some terrible O's let's wait till playoff time and quality opponent to judge Dak pro or con. Jerry a PROBLEM, agree but that's always been so. Right now, Dak has it it all, great D play, OL play WR and running game there just can't be any more excuses.

How do you write this sort of thing with a straight face? The receivers dropped 6 passes yesterday.. CD Lamb dropped 3 all by his lonesome.. They put up a graphic during the game that said the Cowboys receivers had dropped 18 balls in the previous 4 games.. which means with 6 more yesterday they have 24 over the last 5 games.. The offensive line has been horrible for weeks and the running game has been C-minus or worse for two months.. I am not defending Dak's play in the least because I think he has it within himself to compensate for poor line play, augment his running game and convert first downs.. All he has to do is run when the opportunity presents. He has also taken on this "greedy" attitude far more than I would like.. That has led to his taking deep heaves when a guy is standing 15 feet away from him for an easy first down which has ended in us punting way more than we should be. Or worse it has caused him to hold the ball too long and give up sacks.. He needs to get back to the old Dak who takes the first down instead of taking unnecessary risks with the ball.. But I honestly don't think we're going to see that guy until the playoffs. And I wonder if that isn't by design.. I think the coaches and the Joneses have been in his ear about running and he aint doin it except in dire emergency until playoff time.
 

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The geniuses on this site told me that Brady can win by himself....the "good ones" win by themselves. Yeah that's some BS. I knew that was BS when he left Patriots to go to the Buccaneers to begin with.

We have some slow mouth breathing knuckle draggers on this site who thinks everything is just black and white. No rhyme or reason.
 
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