Brady loses top two receivers. gets shut out

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Ah, I thought I felt some hot air blowing….another RonaldT24 thread.

There's Cowboy fans and then there's stalker type love...this Guy has crossed over

 

[RonnieT24]

With 36 touchdowns . He hasn’t lost much at 44 which is absolutely amazing

You don't lose strength in your 40's.. you lose stamina and recoverability. Brady's arm might simply be out of gas .. The Bucs would be wise to limit his throwing in practice the rest of the way.. Or he will look like Peyton Manning did that last year in Denver come playoff time.. and the Bucs defense aint nearly as good as that Denver bunch was..

 

[perrykemp]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Father Time was gently tapping on Tom Brady’s door with the ungentle reminder that the magic ends for ALL great athletes. The zip on his throws is starting to slow.

I thought this at least 4-5 times over the last 10-12 years and every time I was wrong.

 

[Vtwin]

People here have been claiming that "great QBs find a way" and that sort of thing when piling on Dak for not lighting teams up with his guys out.. Oh and how great did Kyler Murray look without D-Hop? It's amazing how ordinary a QB can look when the receiver group gets depleted. I know the ABD crowd doesn't wanna hear it but Dak and Moore have been working on getting this whole 2 deep shell coverage figured out.
It would be a lot easier if they would run the damn ball more but Kellen Moore aint doin that unless Jerry himself is standing on the sidelines screaming at him to run the ball. But I digress.

35 rushes against the FT
30 rushes against the Giants.
But I digress.

How long do you figure it will take Two professional QB's to figure out how to play against a commonly run coverage?

Apparently six years isn't enough.

 

[baltcowboy]

I mean Brady's got 7 rings and some MVPs.
Rodgers has a ring and some MVPs.

Didn't Rodgers just yesterday go into Baltimore missing 4 starting o linemen?

I mean he's down to his 3rd man up at left tackle?

Context anyone?

Yeah Rodgers also played a decimated Ravens team with backups playing at every level of the defense. Oh by the way Lamar Jackson was also out.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yes.

Dak and Brady are the exact same QB.

 

[Creeper]

1 game does not create a narrative.

Nobody got on Dak over 1 game. It’s the long trend that’s started with Denver.


You guys like to paint this broad brush that excuses our QB over 1 example. Like the Mahomes in the Super Bowl excuse you guys think is clever.

Yeah.. Tampa struggled last night when all of Brady’s guys went out. Let’s see how quick it takes him to recover or if it’s a trend that follows him the rest of the season like it has for Dak.

Having horrible receivers does not explain the pick 6 against Washington or that "greedy" decision to try to make a throw after being chased out of the pocket against the Giants. Which resulted in a fumble. Had it not been the Giants and their awful offense, the game may have turned completely around.

I don't understand why when Zeke is playing poorly it is perfectly okay to criticize him, and even call for him to be replaced by Pollard, but when Dak plays poorly, by his own admission, he is off limits to some folks. I am a Dak fan and I want him to play well because when he plays well the offense scores points and the Cowboys win. But the Dak I see now is hurting the offense and the team. I think it is okay to point that out.

And it is fine if Bucs fans criticize Brady for not playing well when he faces the Saints.

 

[Ken]

Brady won Super Bowls without top tier WRs.

But had top coaching and defense.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Why do you guess this? Because you dislike Dak so that's easier to swallow than the boy genius is getting worked? Fine go with that.. And let's say it's 100% true.. If the QB is audibling to the wrong play over and over whose responsibility is it to pull him aside and whisper "run the damn ball" into his ear? Or why not give him TWO running plays if we really want to run? I am not saying Dak is getting the reads correct every time.. However I would point out that the offense absolutely functions at its best when going hurry up/no huddle.. You know who is calling the plays in that mode?

Let me hear you say it..

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But your original statement is accurate.. We don't know who is responsible for the unwillingness to run the ball. But we need to figure it out..

I tend to agree that the QB more often calls the play during hurry up. The hurry up offense succeeds for numerous reasons. Defense substitutions are limited, offenses are more focused, offenses audible less at the line to save time at the end of the game, defenses get tired more than the offense, offenses can catch the defense off guard, etc.

I do think Dak is good in the hurry up offense and wish they would run it more. They should try it in the red zone more to see if it helps.

When it comes to audibles, we have to guess. Rarely do we get a Russell Wilson-Lynch SB situation where we know the original call and the audible.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I dont think anyone is saying that lol. However. It just further proves that even the best need help around them. Thats all I think he was trying to say.

its the never fails narrative of those who want to find fault with a player....that player has to lift everyone by himself and do it alone. if that player is surronded by HighSchool player, then he should be able to lift them up and elevate their game...this happened to Romo, now Dak and its been done in the past. its a never ending bullshiet....way back when, they even attacked Aikman and Emmitt Smith......

since I mentioned those two HOF guys, I have to put a disclaimer that by mentioning those names, I am not comparing Dak and Romo to those player.....

 

[Doomsday101]

as I say QB do not block for themselves (Brady sacked 4 times) QB does not take on the duties of RB aka blocking and rushing and QB does not run the routs and make the catches. When others around the QB fail to do their job even a Tom Brady will not overcome it. This is and has always been a team sports. Those who think it is all the QB plain and simple is wrong

 

[Bobhaze]

I thought this at least 4-5 times over the last 10-12 years and every time I was wrong.

He’s been able to overcome his velocity slowing by sharpening his short to medium route tree. He’s still an excellent QB but his physical skills have been waning for a few years. His ability to read defenses and make mental adjustments is still the best in the game.

 

[75boyz]

Yeah Rodgers also played a decimated Ravens team with backups playing at every level of the defense. Oh by the way Lamar Jackson was also out.

And lemme see.
Flip the script.
Take out Tyron, Martin, Collins and...I dunno,pick your other oline starter.

How would Dak do?

 

[RonnieT24]

as I say QB do not block for themselves (Brady sacked 4 times) QB does not take on the duties of RB aka blocking and rushing and QB does not run the routs and make the catches. When others around the QB fail to do their job even a Tom Brady will not overcome it. This is and has always been a team sports. Those who think it is all the QB plain and simple is wrong

Can I get a AMEN!!!!

 

[morasp]

The team that plays the most mistake free in the play offs usually wins, especially the farther you get. If our defense wins the turnover differential by one, that could be the difference in the game. The three things that stuck out to me were: the red zone offense is still an issue, Moore needs to develop a counter to the WR screens that are getting way overplayed by the defenses, the WRs need to get on the jugs machine. Two things I saw that were better, on the scramble drill Dak rolled out to avoid the rush and Lamb kept moving trying to get open and we got a completion and a first down. Also, they actually called a draw play that @CATCH17 mentioned last week and it went for a big gain. It's hard to tell for sure but I don't know if Collins is an upgrade to Steele at RT

 

[jazzcat22]

Well, Dak did not get shut out when missing top WR's. And he had no TE's in the mold of Gronk and Brate.

 

[jwooten15]

Maybe.. but how many has he won without a top tier defense?

Go look it up.. I'll wait..

Well luckily, we might have one of those this year. We have a shot! And that’s all we can ask for

 

[CATCH17]

The team that plays the most mistake free in the play offs usually wins, especially the farther you get. If our defense wins the turnover differential by one, that could be the difference in the game. The three things that stuck out to me were: thered zone offense is still an issue, Moore needs to develop a counter to the WR screens that are getting way overplayed by the defenses, the WRs need to get on the jugs machine. Two things I saw that were better, on the scramble drill Dak rolled out to avoid the rush and Lamb kept moving trying to get open and we got a completion and a first down. Also, they actually called a draw play that @CATCH17 mentioned last week and it went for a big gain.

I couldn’t believe they called a draw haha.

It was so open even Zeke could score.

 

[morasp]

I couldn’t believe they called a draw haha.

It was so open even Zeke could score.

Maybe they read your post, I can't remember the last time I saw them call one.

 

[baltcowboy]

And lemme see.
Flip the script.
Take out Tyron, Martin, Collins and...I dunno,pick your other oline starter.

How would Dak do?

You mean like last season. The Cowboys had the best offense in the NFL until Dak was injured. The Dak hate is strong with this one.