Brady Quinn isn't doing the combine...

Rack;1388090 said:
Not a single thing.


But it does bother me that he'd allow his agent to lead him around by his wang.


I don't care how they actually perform, I just want to see which ones WANT to perform. I like players that feel like they have something to prove and want to show what they "can do".

I was listening to a Joe Thomas interview today on Sirius.

He was so excited for the combine regardless of being a top 5, maybe top 3 prospect.

He couldnt mention enough how he wanted to go out and compete with all the others in as many different skills tests as he could.

I loved how willing he was to go and perform for the scouts and teams and prove, once again, why he is gonna be a top pick.

These workouts (combine, pro days, private worksouts, etc etc) show a man's willingness, work ethic, and even the heart he has to better his abilities.

I thin it all counts for something.
 
Where'd you hear he wasn't going to be there? He had a knee injury that kept him out of the senior bowl. I'm a diedhard ND fan and haven't heard anything about this other then here.
 
TDHND;1388284 said:
Where'd you hear he wasn't going to be there? He had a knee injury that kept him out of the senior bowl. I'm a diedhard ND fan and haven't heard anything about this other then here.

It was on 1 of the various ESPN shows this afternoon.

They said he was just going to focus on his Pro Day on the 3rd or 4th.
 
TDHND;1388284 said:
Where'd you hear he wasn't going to be there? He had a knee injury that kept him out of the senior bowl. I'm a diedhard ND fan and haven't heard anything about this other then here.

Here is confirmation:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...g=jc-combinepreview022207&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

"Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn is the most prominent player likely to pass on his workout at the combine, which starts Thursday and runs through Tuesday. Several other top players, such as Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson, Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson and LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell, are expected to do at least some of the regimen."
 
He's said many times that he wants to be the number 1 pick then he misses the senior bowl because of a knee injury and now this. I don't want him to go to the Raiders anyway. I was hoping he'd go to the Lions or Browns since I live like 5 hours from both of those places.
 
Rustinpeace21;1388573 said:
maybe he doesnt want to play for the raiders


I would not be surprised at all if there were something to this. He'd be much better off if the Raiders took Russell and left him to be picked up by somebody else. JMO of course.
 
Unless injured, every player should work out, run, and perform at the combine.

It is the only chance you have to be compared with every other player. Working out at your own pro day doesn't really impress people as it's on a different track and different conditions than everyone else.

When a player is confident in his abilities and runs at the combine, his actual time isn't as important as where he stacks up...if you're the fastest WR or RB or do the most bench presses or fastest shuttle among linemen or throw the ball better and more accurately than other QB's, then you stand to be atop of them on the draft board.

Unless injured, a player has absolutely nothing to be gained by waiting for a pro day at his own school....the scouts and gms aren't stupid.
 
wayne_motley;1388727 said:
Unless injured, every player should work out, run, and perform at the combine.

It is the only chance you have to be compared with every other player. Working out at your own pro day doesn't really impress people as it's on a different track and different conditions than everyone else.

When a player is confident in his abilities and runs at the combine, his actual time isn't as important as where he stacks up...if you're the fastest WR or RB or do the most bench presses or fastest shuttle among linemen or throw the ball better and more accurately than other QB's, then you stand to be atop of them on the draft board.

Unless injured, a player has absolutely nothing to be gained by waiting for a pro day at his own school....the scouts and gms aren't stupid.

The reality for a lot of players, who tend to heed the advice of their agents more than the wisdom offered by the scouts, is that the four days spent at the combine can be a period that is fraught with potential pitfalls. That mind-set has even begun to creep in among some of the personnel executives who, after years of cajoling prospects, have given up the battle.

For those scouts, the most important component of the combine is the physical examination and the personal interviews with players. The physical part of the evaluation can be done at a player's pro day workout on campus.

Increasingly, that is where prospects prefer to fully audition, because they feel they have more control over some of the variables. Football players are consummate creatures of habit and draft prospects like familiarity with their environment. And waiting to work out on a pro day affords a player more time to prepare for the perusal of scouts.

Not every prospect, however, can afford to wait.

"A lot of this is about doing whatever it takes to impress them," said Boise State tight end Derek Schouman, a middle- to late-round prospect. "You know, do something to catch their eye, to stand out from the crowd. To me, that means doing whatever they ask, even if it's running through a brick wall."

Len Pasquarelli is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
 
wayne_motley;1388727 said:
Unless injured, every player should work out, run, and perform at the combine.

It is the only chance you have to be compared with every other player. Working out at your own pro day doesn't really impress people as it's on a different track and different conditions than everyone else.

When a player is confident in his abilities and runs at the combine, his actual time isn't as important as where he stacks up...if you're the fastest WR or RB or do the most bench presses or fastest shuttle among linemen or throw the ball better and more accurately than other QB's, then you stand to be atop of them on the draft board.

Unless injured, a player has absolutely nothing to be gained by waiting for a pro day at his own school....the scouts and gms aren't stupid.

I don't. In Quinn's situation, I can't say that there is much upside to attending the combine. If he goes to the combine and does very well, his reward is landing up in Oakland. If he skips the combine and Russell moves ahead of him, he avoids Oakland, which is probably a very good thing. I don't see him slipping past the 2nd rated QB either way. I also don't see him slipping out of the top 10 so other then up front money, there is probably no down side. To me, if your going to be a top 10 pick, it's much better to get into the right situation as a QB as opposed to being the top pick. David Carr, for example, went to a bad situation and it has seriously hurt his career. Seems to me, it's better in the long run if you can avoid going to a situation like Oakland, as a young QB. JMO.
 
ABQCOWBOY;1388745 said:
I don't. In Quinn's situation, I can't say that there is much upside to attending the combine. If he goes to the combine and does very well, his reward is landing up in Oakland. If he skips the combine and Russell moves ahead of him, he avoids Oakland, which is probably a very good thing. I don't see him slipping past the 2nd rated QB either way. I also don't see him slipping out of the top 10 so other then up front money, there is probably no down side. To me, if your going to be a top 10 pick, it's much better to get into the right situation as a QB as opposed to being the top pick. David Carr, for example, went to a bad situation and it has seriously hurt his career. Seems to me, it's better in the long run if you can avoid going to a situation like Oakland, as a young QB. JMO.

True and in another part of the article I posted the scouts say these player are still going to be judged on their performance as players during their college careers. The combines can help some guys rise in the draft but players who are looked at as top 10 prospects there is not much to gain and a lot to lose by 1 bad performance in Indy.
 

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