Brady will be suspended for role in deflategate

[Stryker44]

Good. He's a liar and deserves it.

 

[Rogah]

The Ravens pretty much beat them.

If you watched the game, it was the eligible-ineligible rule that allowed the Pats to win. By the time they resorted to that tactic, the Ravens had essentially shut down their offense and Brady looked pedestrian.

So basically 1 single 14-yard gain in the 3rd quarter explains how the Patriots scored 35 points in that game.

BTW, Brady was 33-50, 367 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 99.3 rating. If that's "pedestrian" then you just don't know football. Oh but wait, all those stats came directly as a result of that 14 yard pass to Hoomanawanui.

 

[Rogah]

Ha Ha, and now you're trying to downplay the significance of your wrongness by comparing this to a parking ticket.

The NFL Game Operations Manual recommends a fine of $25,000 for this particular type of equipment violation. When they Vikings got caught breaking the same rule, they got a letter of warning.

So yeah, that's the NFL equivalent of a speeding ticket.

 

[khiladi]

So basically 1 single 14-yard gain in the 3rd quarter explains how the Patriots scored 35 points in that game.

BTW, Brady was 33-50, 367 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 99.3 rating. If that's "pedestrian" then you just don't know football. Oh but wait, all those stats came directly as a result of that 14 yard pass to Hoomanawanui.

Why are you even trying to defend it now?

3 of 4 plays on one single drive did it that they scored on, i.e. when the Pats were down 14 when John Harbaugh stepped on the field... As I said, by the time they used it, the Patriots offense looked pedestrian. I never denied the Pats started off well. Then the Ravens shut them down. And after that BS nonsense, the Ravens had to worry about defending a play the rest of the game. It's why they could get an easy, trick play you find on the playgrounds when Edelman threw to a wide open ex-Cowboys scrub WR...

Learn how to read properly...

 

[khiladi]

The NFL Game Operations Manual recommends a fine of $25,000 for this particular type of equipment violation. When they Vikings got caught breaking the same rule, they got a letter of warning.

So yeah, that's the NFL equivalent of a speeding ticket.

No.. The Vikings did this in front of everyone on a cold day, like their opponents and were told to stop and stopped during the game.. The Patriots on the other hand manipulated the balls in hiding and did it systematically hiding behind closed doors..

Using PEDs multiple times gets you suspended for a year.. The more you cheat the bigger the punishment..

Your analogies are absurd and the fact that you vociferously tried to absolve them shows how much you actually believed it would put another black stain on the patriots organization.. Now that you can't deny it, you are saying it's trivial...

 

[Rogah]

Why are you even trying to defend it now?

3 of 4 plays on one single drive did it that they scored on, i.e. when the Pats were down 14 when John Harbaugh stepped on the field... As I said, by the time they used it, the Patriots offense STARTED to look pedestrian. Then the Ravens shut them down. And after that, the Ravens had to worry about defending a play the rest of the game.

Are you honestly complaining about the Ravens having to defend against a trick play which, at the time, was perfectly legal?

Maybe we should illegalize fake FG's and punts too. After all, it's not fair that defenses have to worry about defending against those sorts of tricks. IIRC, the Patriots scored on an Edelman pass. Obviously that's completely unfair. The Ravens should not be expected to defend against such trickeration!!

 

[khiladi]

Are you honestly complaining about the Ravens having to defend against a trick play which, at the time, was perfectly legal?

Maybe we should illegalize fake FG's and punts too. After all, it's not fair that defenses have to worry about defending against those sorts of tricks. IIRC, the Patriots scored on an Edelman pass. Obviously that's completely unfair. The Ravens should not be expected to defend against such trickeration!!

Why did they score on that trick pass? Maybe because the refs weren't adequately conveying who the WR that was that was ineligible to defense and now the Ravens defense had to worry about 'incompetency' of refs..

You do realize the NFL declared the eligible-ineligible set-up 'illegal' this off-season, but they did it in a manner that wouldn't make them look incompetent.

Get over it, your organization is a bunch of cheaters.. all that defending has made you look like ridiculous now.. And you just started a post about them getting caught to make yourself try and look fair after all the nonsense..

 

[Rogah]

No.. The Vikings did this in front of everyone on a cold day

How in the world does that make any difference??? The NFL Game Operations Manual literally has "heating balls" and "deflating balls" right next to each other in the "prohibited actions" list.

Let me say that again: In the NFL Game Operations Manual, the 2 infractions (heating balls and deflating balls) are literally side by side on the "examples of prohibited activity" list, right before it gives the recommended guideline of a $25,000 fine.

 

[khiladi]

 

[Rogah]

Why did they score on that trick pass? Maybe because the refs weren't adequately conveying who the WR that was that was ineligible to defense and now the Ravens defense had to worry about 'incompetency' of refs..

You obviously don't know what you are talking about (as per usual). There was absolutely nothing unusual about the formation where the Patriots scored on the trick pass. Brady lateralled it to Edelman who through it 50 yards to Amendola.

All your complaining comes down to a 14 yard gain in the 3rd quarter. Pathetic.

 

[khiladi]

How in the world does that make any difference??? The NFL Game Operations Manual literally has "heating balls" and "deflating balls" right next to each other in the "prohibited actions" list.

Let me say that again: In the NFL Game Operations Manual, the 2 infractions (heating balls and deflating balls) are literally side by side on the "examples of prohibited activity" list, right before it gives the recommended guideline of a $25,000 fine.

RECOMMENDED... They didn't just deflate balls though. The Patriots cheated multiple times. The Patriots did this behind closed doors. The Patriots are lying about it and covering up the investigation.

On the other hand, organizations like the Falcons admitted pumping noise into the stadium. Vikings players did it spur of the moment, like their opponents and the refs warned them and they stopped.

Stop playing dumb.. If it was that trivial, you wouldn't have spent the last 3 months of your life vociferously trying to absolve ball-boys of something they did as 'lone' participants...

 

[khiladi]

You obviously don't know what you are talking about (as per usual). There was absolutely nothing unusual about the formation where the Patriots scored on the trick pass. Brady lateralled it to Edelman who through it 50 yards to Amendola.

All your complaining comes down to a 14 yard gain in the 3rd quarter. Pathetic.

3 of the 4 plays on that drive when they were down by 14 used that 'trick'. They scored based off it.. The next series, Edelman scored.. I guess the Ravens, after dealing with this issue, suddenly though it would stop and were no longer worried about who the WRs would be... sure...

 

[joseephuss]

The NFL Game Operations Manual recommends a fine of $25,000 for this particular type of equipment violation. When they Vikings got caught breaking the same rule, they got a letter of warning.

So yeah, that's the NFL equivalent of a speeding ticket.

What does the NFL Game Operation Manual recommend in regards to lying to the investigators and covering up their speeding ticket violation?

 

[khiladi]

The most hilarious aspect to this matter:

“As with other recent matters involving violations of competitive rules,” Goodell’s statement read, “Troy Vincent and his team will consider what steps to take in light of the report, both with respect to possible disciplinary action and to any changes in protocols that are necessary to avoid future incidents of this type. At the same time, we will continue our efforts vigorously to protect the integrity of the game and promote fair play at all times.”

Goodell loves to determine what disciplinary action to take. Why is he now trying to give the impression that another guy, Troy Vincent, will determine what action to take? I don't ever remember Goodell passing the buck on such matters...

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Haha..look at number 1 in the front row...he looks like a grandpa sitting in on a family reunion picture..

 

[khiladi]

It keeps getting better and better:

http://www.patspulpit.com/2015/5/8/...-than-not-requirement-because-of-the-patriots

"More probable than not," also known as a "preponderance of the evidence," is used in civil cases, versus "beyond a reasonable doubt" in criminal cases. The league actually operated under the concept of "beyond a reasonable doubt" before Roger Goodell changed the requirements "to preserve the competitive integrity of the league" and "maintain public confidence [in the sport]."

So basically, "more probable than not" in NFL terminology means guilty. Why did Goodell change it to that terminology to this phrase, from "beyond a reasonable doubt"? Because of Spygate... Oh, the irony...

 

[cajuncocoa]

If the Patriots ever have openings in their PR dept they should hire Rogah...

Full on biggest Pats homer EVER.

so funny.

I often wonder why he even signed up here.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Well, the Report had more conclusions than merely Tom Brady's guilt.

Seriously, please try to educate yourself regarding what the report actually says in full.

Conclusion is singular = guilty.

Parsing the verbiage is only to make you feel better.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

Wait, I didn't watch the Ravens/Pats game... explain the eligible/ineligible rule and how it affected the game.

 

[khiladi]

Wait, I didn't watch the Ravens/Pats game... explain the eligible/ineligible rule and how it affected the game.

So basically, the Patriots in the second half, when they couldn't get anything going on offense anymore, started lining up their offense very close to the time the clock expired and right before that happened, their WR would be lining up and then say to the ref he was ineligible... Because of this, the Ravens had no real idea, couldn't get lined up properly in such an amount of time and had to cover the Receiver who was eligible, who was sitting on the line...

Harbaugh started yelling at the refs and actually walked on the field to get their attention to get their attention and was penalized more yardage and the Pats ended up scoring very easily..

And the NFL officially banned it this off-season, though this ban doesn't actually address the real issue with it, which was the NFL didn't properly convey the ineligible receivers nor afforded the Ravens to deal adequately with any substitutions..

The irony of this whole matter is that the NFL said to the Seahawks before the SB, they would make every effort to convey who is ineligible to the defense.. People didn't catch on that this was pretty much an implicit admittance that they were doing an adequate job. And the week prior, the NFL admitted they botched a TD during the Colts-Patriots game when the Pats scored using an ineligible receiver...


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...refs-signaling-patriots-ineligible-receivers/


Basically, a lot of their success in the play-offs was 'play calling' not necessarily Brady..

www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/01/bill_vinovich_dean_blandino_not_on_same_page_with_ineligible

Vinovich essentially said to a ravens defender "do not cover 34", not that he was ineligible.. That's how botched it was..