Brandin Cooks, who has played with Tom Brady and Drew Brees, with some high praise for Dak Prescott

USArmyVet said:
Herbert was drafted #6 overall because SD had a bad team....Dak was drafted in the 4th round because Dallas had a much better team at the time and Dak was gifted a strong Top 5 OL and a Top 5 RB in Zeke.....so remind me again how you can compare team records between the two QB's???

That said, here are the stats of Herbert and Dak their first 3 seasons in the league:

Herbert 1,316 of 1,966 66.9% Comp % 14,089 yards 7.2 ypa 94 td's 4.8% td % 35 int's 1.8% int % 172 rushes 683 yards 4 ypa 8 td's

Dak 975 of 1,475 66.1% Comp % 10,876 yards 7.4 ypa 67 td's 4.5% td % 25 int's 1.7% int % 189 rushes 944 yards 5 ypa 18 td's

So statistically speaking Herbert is the more prolific passer in his first 3 seasons compared to Dak.
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I thank you and respect your examples, but I was told by many people here that a good quarterback elevates the talent around them, so we can't lean on that excuse of who's on the team the quarterback was drafted to, correct??

Because Dak is always compared to other quarterbacks with better talent, better coaching and better organizational management, so let's keep it consistent.

Again I never said Dak was better than Herbert. I just showed a comparison of their first three seasons.

I do find it hilarious that Dak's stats don't matter, but other quarterbacks stats do.
 
USArmyVet said:
Your BS projections are meaningless.
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And just like those others I've mentioned.... you ran and deflected a clear cut question with a BS meaningless response. Again, thank you for volunteering yourself as the mascot of the type of poster I'm talking about.

Running away is a great look on ya lil guy!!
 
GINeric said:
Justin Herbert's record in his first three seasons in the NFL as a starting quarterback is 25-24 with ZERO playoff wins.

Dak Prescott's record in his first three seasons in the NFL as a starting quarterback is 32-16 with a playoff win.

Nobody said Dak is a better quarterback than Herbert, but....
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Wins and losses aren’t a qb stat and never have been. Herbert has qualities Dak doesn’t and vice versa.

Herbert was also a bad OC away from securing his first playoff win. Just saying.
 
USArmyVet said:
While you and some others want to see it that way, that is not how it goes yet here you are defending Dak's record....yet since his rookie 2016 season which saw him and Dallas go 13-3, Dak has a career record of 48-33....a .593 winning %...or 7-1/2 games above average.....all while going 2-3 in the playoffs since 2017.
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I’m not good at math or anything but 48-33 is 15. Which would mean he’s 15 games above average. And that’s considering you completely threw out his rookie season for some odd reason. Lol.

That doesn’t matter anyways. The Dallas cowboys are 15 games above average since 2016.
 
phildadon86 said:
Wins and losses aren’t a qb stat and never have been. Herbert has qualities Dak doesn’t and vice versa.

Herbert was also a bad OC away from securing his first playoff win. Just saying.
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And I have no argument with this. But isn't it hilarious how "wins and losses aren't a quarterback stat" until people here bring up Dak's playoff "wins and losses" as if he's a boxer or a tennis player without teammates???

I never said Dak was better than Herbert for the record.

And the bad OC thing.... how many games were we close to winning if it were for playing under bad OCs? See this is my thing, other quarterbacks get crutches and excuses for their shortcomings, but Dak doesn't get that same luxury.

I'm not saying that's what you are doing, but I know you understand what I'm talking about.
 
Frozen700 said:
You act like he’s supposed to say something else.

You all can’t wait to defend Dak. He’s not that good. Face it
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Read what you typed.... imagine a Cowboys fan defending Cowboys players.

With that said, how can a quarterback who's "not that good" spend the majority of his career in the top ten and have the career winning percentage that he has? Is Dak elite?? Absolutely not.

But to say the man is not that good, is just dumb and I can tell you don't know much about professional football. I definitely respect your opinion, even if it doesn't line up with reality. I respect it though.
 
GINeric said:
And just like those others I've mentioned.... you ran and deflected a clear cut question with a BS meaningless response. Again, thank you for volunteering yourself as the mascot of the type of poster I'm talking about.

Running away is a great look on ya lil guy!!
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Mascot? Running away? Far from it as the only running mascot are the Dak pen pals that run to be the first to sniff his jock.
 
phildadon86 said:
I’m not good at math or anything but 48-33 is 15. Which would mean he’s 15 games above average. And that’s considering you completely threw out his rookie season for some odd reason. Lol.

That doesn’t matter anyways. The Dallas cowboys are 15 games above average since 2016.
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It's not 15 as Dak has played 81 career games and 40.5 games would be .500 so it's 7-1/2.
 
CowboyRoy said:
Probably not because Herbert is young . But Hebert gets a lot of forgiveness because he is young. His teams haven't done diddly and he is consistently choking late in games and with big leads.

For one game or for one season some might take Dak.
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Herbert has 10 4th quarter comebacks and 13 game winning drives in 3 seasons
Dak has 12 4th quarter comebacks and 19 game winning drives in 8 years.

Dak is what he is, a solid starting QB in year 8. Herbert is an ascending player going into year 4.
 
USArmyVet said:
Mascot? Running away? Far from it as the only running mascot are the Dak pen pals that run to be the first to sniff his jock.
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Guy, you’re responding to folks who rejoice in Daks last play playoff slide, his 12 point outburst while the rookie last player taken in the draft was a superior bus driver. These low IQ folks defend him with every excuse and throwing every other player and coach under the bus. When push comes to shove they are quick to respond that they never said Dak was better than QB (insert any QB name). All as Dallas has to do to get Dak to the SB is build Defense that doesn’t give up more than 11 points, that 11 points is down from the 14 points based on Dakckoka’s PO performance against quality teams. Stats Prescott is a legend in their small minds and nothing is going to change it.
 
Pola_pe_a said:
Herbert has 10 4th quarter comebacks and 13 game winning drives in 3 seasons
Dak has 12 4th quarter comebacks and 19 game winning drives in 8 years.

Dak is what he is, a solid starting QB in year 8. Herbert is an ascending player going into year 4.
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That tells me Dak had his teams ahead enough he did not need to have any comeback wins, or opportunities.
Just another useless stat to use as an agenda.

Give me the QB that has his team ahead enough as to not come back and win.

How about some stats where they had the opportunity to come back and win and did not?
I have no idea, but it would be interesting to see those numbers. It may or may not prove some things.
 
Brax said:
Guy, you’re responding to folks who rejoice in Daks last play playoff slide, his 12 point outburst while the rookie last player taken in the draft was a superior bus driver. These low IQ folks defend him with every excuse and throwing every other player and coach under the bus. When push comes to shove they are quick to respond that they never said Dak was better than QB (insert any QB name). All as Dallas has to do to get Dak to the SB is build Defense that doesn’t give up more than 11 points, that 11 points is down from the 14 points based on Dakckoka’s PO performance against quality teams. Stats Prescott is a legend in their small minds and nothing is going to change it.
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No credibility when using terms like that. Tells me the ones that use these terms, are the same then, as they can't think of a better or less insulting way to say it.
 
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