Brandon Weeden on time with Cowboys: 'It wasn't like I stunk it up in Dallas

[khiladi]

Weeden, 32, went 71 of 98 for 738 yards and two touchdowns with two interceptions in three-and-a-half games, but the Cowboys went 0-3 during his starts.

He was cut Nov. 17 in favor of Matt Cassel -- who was just relegated to Cowboys backup behind Kellen Moore -- but signed by the Texans the following day.

"It wasn't like I stunk it up in Dallas," Weeden said to Sports Illustrated's Monday Morning Quarterback. "I thought I'd played pretty well, but we just hadn't won. I've learned in this business you've just got to keep plugging away. You never know when your next chance is going to come."

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Keep plugging away.. Sounds like Garrett, but apparently Garrett only applies that excuse as far as his own career goes...

 

[crashintonickdm]

lions winning is huge. another team out of the way to keep the cowboys within in the top 4.

 

[DandyDon52]

Baloney. I also watched the game. He did all the same things he did in our eagles game. Weeden scored our only touchdown when he came in. That's what he does when he comes in relief. When he starts he sucks as evidenced by his 12 straight losses as a starter. That Houston defense was getting turnovers out of everywhere yesterday. Weeden is still weeden

Well lets see what he does in the last 2 games in Houston, if they win both against weak teams they are div champs.
He should be the starter now, and if he can win next 2, he will be in the playoffs and cowboys will be watching on tv.

I dont know how he will do, but he looked better in the few plays I saw.
I now want to see the next Houston game, to see how he does and if they win.

 

[Fontaine]

 

[Idgit]

He played well in relief v. PHI and in the first half v. ATL. NE was going to make any of our backups look bad.

He wasn't good enough, but he also wasn't as bad as some of you guys like to pretend. He was generally just a very mediocre backup QB.

 

[Nightman]

He played well in relief v. PHI and in the first half v. ATL. NE was going to make any of our backups look bad.

He wasn't good enough, but he also wasn't as bad as some of you guys like to pretend. He was generally just a very mediocre backup QB.

What he showed was as good as it gets and wasn't going to be that good again. His numbers were OK because the offense was so conservative. When he had to challenge the Defense downfield is when it got scary. Some of the dropped INTs were jaw droppingly bad choices, like Cassel's play the other night. The Flail Mary.

 

[RS12]

Who's laughing now

When did Gumby go red head?

 

[Reality]

My problem with Weeden is that he is a line-of-sight thrower. He has no touch on his throws. He can be very accurate, but he needs a clear line of sight directly to the target. That makes it more likely his passes will be intercepted. Of course the receivers didn't help him by getting separation either.

As for Cassel, I don't think he had a single throw in any game where I saw anything special out of him. He literally looked like a random fan throwing the ball out there. I did not see any skill or ability in him.

Moore reminds me of some of our third string quarterbacks over the last 10 years, but nothing more (no pun intended). The fact that Moore looked so much better than Cassel though really shows how bad Cassel was.

When Moore was out there, I kept feeling like I was watching a late pre-season game.

 

[plasticman]

"Lies, damned lies and statistics" - Mark Twain

Mark Twain dropped out of 5th grade and was forced into bankruptcy which took him several years to recover. It's fun to quote his more humorous observations on life in general but I wouldn't count on him as an intellectual giant.

It's interesting to note that people who dislike statistics are those whose opinions are destroyed by statistics and have no ability to dispute them. Statistics are an organized set of data or information that cannot be ignored, refuted or disagreed with and that's why many don't like them. Statistics evaporate B.S.

It cannot be denied that Brandon Weeden has the highest completion rate among all quarterbacks this season with 100 or more pass attempts, he is the only QB completing more than 70% of his passes. Tony Romo is in 3rd place. Russel Wilson is 4th. Matt Cassel is 36th.

Weeden completed 5 of his 14 deep passes, 6 of the 9 that were incomplete were thrown to Williams who had the most attention without Dez.

Cassel completed 14 out of 40, exactly the same percentage as Weeden which was 35%, Romo completed 40% of his deep passes.

Weeden wasn't moving the football? Incorrect. He averaged 7.5 yards per attempt, Romo averaged 7.3 and Cassel 6.2.

Weeden threw an INT every 49 passes. Cassel threw one every 29 passes, Romo every 30 passes.

Weeden too slow in the pocket, a sack magnet? Wrong again. Yes, he averaged a sack every 12 passing plays but Cassel wasn't far behind in any way, he averaged a sack every 14 passing plays, Romo every 20 plays. A slew of quarterbacks had a higher sack rate including Russell Wilson, Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel, and Colin Kaepernick. The majority of these guys are known for their elusiveness.

Nobody can dispute the fact that Brandon Weeden's quarterback rating of 92.7 is ranked 17th in the NFL. In other words, his rating is better than half of the starters in the league. Tony Romo is ranked 33rd, Matt Cassel is 37th.

The offense, under Weeden, provided an average of 18.3 points per game compared to 13.3 fo Romo and 13.4 for Cassel.

Dez Bryant did not participate in any game with Weeden. He was ready to go for Cassel. The defensive players on suspension had just returned for Weeden's last game. The starting RB was still Randle. As the starter, two of Weeden's three opponents were undefeated at the time.

Cassel was given every advantage over Weeden.

Who really decided to cut a guy with a legit 1st round arm and a 92 passer rating this season? Weeden was barely out the door when he was snatched by another team. Cassel will go back on the streets where he was wandering before Jerry Jones decided that the leagues most accurate passer so far this season just wasn't good enough.

It's very possible that Brandon Weeden will be quarterbacking his team in the playoffs this season. Now that sucks.

 

[Nightman]

Mark Twain dropped out of 5th grade and was forced into bankruptcy which took him several years to recover. It's fun to quote his more humorous observations on life in general but I wouldn't count on him as an intellectual giant.

It's interesting to note that people who dislike statistics are those whose opinions are destroyed by statistics and have no ability to dispute them. Statistics are an organized set of data or information that cannot be ignored, refuted or disagreed with and that's why many don't like them. Statistics evaporate B.S.

It cannot be denied that Brandon Weeden has the highest completion rate among all quarterbacks this season with 100 or more pass attempts, he is the only QB completing more than 70% of his passes. Tony Romo is in 3rd place. Russel Wilson is 4th. Matt Cassel is 36th.

Weeden completed 5 of his 14 deep passes, 6 of the 9 that were incomplete were thrown to Williams who had the most attention without Dez.

Cassel completed 14 out of 40, exactly the same percentage as Weeden which was 35%, Romo completed 40% of his deep passes.

Weeden wasn't moving the football? Incorrect. He averaged 7.5 yards per attempt, Romo averaged 7.3 and Cassel 6.2.

Weeden threw an INT every 49 passes. Cassel threw one every 29 passes, Romo every 30 passes.

Weeden too slow in the pocket, a sack magnet? Wrong again. Yes, he averaged a sack every 12 passing plays but Cassel wasn't far behind in any way, he averaged a sack every 14 passing plays, Romo every 20 plays. A slew of quarterbacks had a higher sack rate including Russell Wilson, Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel, and Colin Kaepernick. The majority of these guys are known for their elusiveness.

Nobody can dispute the fact that Brandon Weeden's quarterback rating of 92.7 is ranked 17th in the NFL. In other words, his rating is better than half of the starters in the league. Tony Romo is ranked 33rd, Matt Cassel is 37th.

The offense, under Weeden, provided an average of 18.3 points per game compared to 13.3 fo Romo and 13.4 for Cassel.

Dez Bryant did not participate in any game with Weeden. He was ready to go for Cassel. The defensive players on suspension had just returned for Weeden's last game. The starting RB was still Randle. As the starter, two of Weeden's three opponents were undefeated at the time.

Cassel was given every advantage over Weeden.

Who really decided to cut a guy with a legit 1st round arm and a 92 passer rating this season? Weeden was barely out the door when he was snatched by another team. Cassel will go back on the streets where he was wandering before Jerry Jones decided that the leagues most accurate passer so far this season just wasn't good enough.

It's very possible that Brandon Weeden will be quarterbacking his team in the playoffs this season. Now that sucks.

Weeden was on an 0-11 streak as a starter since his days in CLE. You can't refute that.

ps- I love statistics, they can be manipulated to show any truth you want to show.

 

[Beast_from_East]

My problem with Weeden is that he is a line-of-sight thrower. He has no touch on his throws. He can be very accurate, but he needs a clear line of sight directly to the target. That makes it more likely his passes will be intercepted. Of course the receivers didn't help him by getting separation either.

As for Cassel, I don't think he had a single throw in any game where I saw anything special out of him. He literally looked like a random fan throwing the ball out there. I did not see any skill or ability in him.

Moore reminds me of some of our third string quarterbacks over the last 10 years, but nothing more (no pun intended). The fact that Moore looked so much better than Cassel though really shows how bad Cassel was.

When Moore was out there, I kept feeling like I was watching a late pre-season game.

Good points

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He never looked comfortable running Romo's offense. Cowboys braintrust cannot be trusted with the QB position it seems.

 

[plasticman]

Weeden was on an 0-11 streak as a starter since his days in CLE. You can't refute that.

ps- I love statistics, they can be manipulated to show any truth you want to show.

But, of course, you can't show me a single example.

Statistics cannot be manipulated, just misrepresented to those with a poor understanding of it's relevance. For example, tossing a coin and getting a heads does not prove that every time you toss a coin you will get a heads.

However, I you toss a coin 10 times and record your results, then 100 times and then 1000 times, a trend will develop that enables you to claim probabilities for future results when you toss that coin.

It is important for this coin toss to be independent of any other influences on the results. For example, you cannot attach something to one side of the coin and expect the results not to be influenced.

I say this because, football being a team sport, the fact that he lost 11 straight has absolutely no bearing on his future performances with different teams, different systems, different set of teammates, it's ignorant to think it does,

Archie Manning, father of Eli and Peyton, was the 2nd player taken in his draft. He ended up on the worst team in history, the New Orleans Saints, when there was no free agency, no salary cap. His career was practically given a life sentence of playing with the most inept group of offensive teammates and ineffective coaches.

His team there never once had winning record. His overall record as a starter there was 35-101-3.

And yet, he made 2 Pro Bowls. Perhaps his two best completions were performed on a more enjoyable type of field, two of his sons are Super Bowl MVP's. That is not associated with any statistical probability, just an opinion regarding poetic justice.

 

[punchnjudy]

My problem with Weeden is that he is a line-of-sight thrower. He has no touch on his throws. He can be very accurate, but he needs a clear line of sight directly to the target. That makes it more likely his passes will be intercepted. Of course the receivers didn't help him by getting separation either.

As for Cassel, I don't think he had a single throw in any game where I saw anything special out of him. He literally looked like a random fan throwing the ball out there. I did not see any skill or ability in him.

Moore reminds me of some of our third string quarterbacks over the last 10 years, but nothing more (no pun intended). The fact that Moore looked so much better than Cassel though really shows how bad Cassel was.

When Moore was out there, I kept feeling like I was watching a late pre-season game.

Yeah, I kept asking myself how many throws Cassel made that Garrett couldn't make...today. Probably more than I gave him credit for, but not by a wide enough margin.

Edited to add: It would be funny if they trotted Garrett out there and after a quarter he was like "Man, this offense sucks..."

 

[Wayne02]

After seeing Cassel stink it up, I think Weeden is feeling a whole lot better about his performances and I don't blame him. As bad as Weeden is, he's better than Cassel and he knows it.

 

[gimmesix]

Weeden, 32, went 71 of 98 for 738 yards and two touchdowns with two interceptions in three-and-a-half games, but the Cowboys went 0-3 during his starts.

He was cut Nov. 17 in favor of Matt Cassel -- who was just relegated to Cowboys backup behind Kellen Moore -- but signed by the Texans the following day.

"It wasn't like I stunk it up in Dallas," Weeden said to Sports Illustrated's Monday Morning Quarterback. "I thought I'd played pretty well, but we just hadn't won. I've learned in this business you've just got to keep plugging away. You never know when your next chance is going to come."

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...brandon-weeden-time-cowboys-like-stunk-dallas

I guess it depends on how you define stunk it up. When I look up the definition of those words, it says "Brandon Weeden." Apparently, Weeden is using an abridged version.

 

[gimmesix]

After seeing Cassel stink it up, I think Weeden is feeling a whole lot better about his performances and I don't blame him. As bad as Weeden is, he's better than Cassel and he knows it.

Actually, I don't think he is better than Cassel. His claim to fame is that he has a strong arm and throws a pretty pass. He just doesn't have a mind for the game, which is where I think Cassel is better.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well lets see what he does in the last 2 games in Houston, if they win both against weak teams they are div champs.
He should be the starter now, and if he can win next 2, he will be in the playoffs and cowboys will be watching on tv.

I dont know how he will do, but he looked better in the few plays I saw.
I now want to see the next Houston game, to see how he does and if they win.

It will be the ULTIMATE indignity to Jason Garrett and the coaching staff of the Dallas Cowboys if Weeden should somehow take the Houston Texans to the playoffs.

If THAT doesn't shout "Garrett is in Way Over His Head and Needs to Be Fired" I don't know what short of Jason releasing naked pictures of Jerry Jones doing the nay nay his wife's sister will.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

He did not do enough to win.
There were times he did not do enough to lose...but in the end he did not do enough to win.

 

[Seven]

LMAO!!!

Seriously. I did.