Braylon Edwards Mimics Merriman

[Zaxor]

We'd all like to have that happen, but it is naive to expect it.

Call me a cynic, but I seriously doubt that any player that reaches the level of a first round pick...and went through the trappings of Pop Warner to college recruiting...would be shocked and actually hurt by any of this kind of stuff.

Edwards and Merriman are more mad about the difference in $$$ they will lose from dropping a spot than any "lies" teams might have told them.

BZ it may be as you say... but it does not mean "we" (as a collective society) should condone such contemptable behavior

 

[Zaxor]

Why would he care what the Dolphins are doing? He's a Cleveland Brown.

This kid needs to shut up and play football. I love the part where he says "I was hurt but I moved on..." Does he think he has earned any repect in the NFL to the point where the Miami Dolphins have to worry about what Braylon Edwards thinks.

In my eyes he will be a Terrell Ownes type in a few years. Can you imagine him, AB and Winslow on the same team. Crennel is gonna need to buy a Duct Tape factory real soon.

I wouldn't feel the slightest bit sorry for this jerk off if he comes out and breaks something and misses the season. It would give him some humility, which is obviously not in his vocabulary. Your drafted #3 in the draft and your gonna be a gazillionaire when the Browns pay up, but you have the balls to call out another NFL franchise for there draft day savvy.

One word for this guy, idiot.

why should we care...

here is a little story for you..pay attention you just might learn something


A Mouse looked through the crack in the wall to see the farmer and his
wife opening a package.
"What food might this contain?"
He was devastated to discover it was a mousetrap.
Retreating to the farmyard, the mouse proclaimed the warning.
"There is a mousetrap in the house!; there is a mousetrap in the
house!"
The chicken clucked and scratched, raised her head and said
"Mr. Mouse, I can tell this is a grave concern to you, but it is of no
consequence to me.
I cannot be bothered by it."
The mouse turned to the pig and told him, "There is a mousetrap in the
house."
The pig sympathized but said, "I am so very sorry Mr. Mouse, but there
is nothing I can do about it but pray Be assured that you are in my
prayers."
The mouse turned to the cow. She said, "Wow, Mr. Mouse. I'm sorry for
you. But it's no skin off my nose."
So the mouse returned to the house, head down and dejected, to face the
farmer's mousetrap alone
That very night a sound was heard throughout the house like the sound of
a mousetrap catching its prey.
The farmer's wife rushed to see what was caught.
In the darkness she did not see that it was a venomous snake whose tail
the trap had caught.
The snake bit the farmer's wife.
The farmer rushed her to the hospital and she returned home with a
fever.
Now everyone knows you treat a fever with fresh chicken soup, so the
farmer took his hatchet to the farmyard for the soup's main ingredient,
the Chicken.
But his wife's sickness continued, so friends and neighbors came to sit
with her around the clock
To feed them, the farmer butchered the pig.
The farmer's wife did not get well. She died;
And so many attended her funeral the farmer had the cow slaughtered to
provide enough meat for all of them.
So next time you hear that someone is facing a problem and think that
it doesn't concern you, remember that when one of us is threatened, we
are all at risk.
We are all involved in this journey called life.
We must keep an eye out for one another and be willing to make that
extra effort to encourage one another.

Peace man

 

[Hostile]

A naive and short-sighted comment but an understandable one. You usually don't associate such a circumstance to someone who seemingly wouldn't show it. But, it's the ultimate sign of character to be vocal about an organization/person that merely used you as a pawn to get other teams to do what you wanted them to.

Braylon Edwards was completely right to sound off about Miami as was Merriman to be vocal about Dallas. A team shouldn't make any kind of statement or comment that would lead a person to believe that they'd have a future there. Players often gear themselves to what a coach or a GM tells them to do. When an opportunity arises and that player isn't taken by a team that said they would, it's often disheartening and you get this.

This is as much Miami's fault as it is anyone's. Their apparent need for RB was irrelevant. If you're gonna make any kind of passing comment or firm commitment on someone, you should stick by it. It's a matter of honor.

You slay me. That is just beyond ridiculous.

 

[joseephuss]

I am so tired of athletes right now. They are such P***ies. Seriously.

Don't let Jeremy Roenick hear you talk like that. He might go off again.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

You slay me. That is just beyond ridiculous.

ROFL, TH.

 

[Jarv]

A naive and short-sighted comment but an understandable one. You usually don't associate such a circumstance to someone who seemingly wouldn't show it. But, it's the ultimate sign of character to be vocal about an organization/person that merely used you as a pawn to get other teams to do what you wanted them to.

Braylon Edwards was completely right to sound off about Miami as was Merriman to be vocal about Dallas. A team shouldn't make any kind of statement or comment that would lead a person to believe that they'd have a future there. Players often gear themselves to what a coach or a GM tells them to do. When an opportunity arises and that player isn't taken by a team that said they would, it's often disheartening and you get this.

This is as much Miami's fault as it is anyone's. Their apparent need for RB was irrelevant. If you're gonna make any kind of passing comment or firm commitment on someone, you should stick by it. It's a matter of honor.

Dude, are you an agent ? Get real.

What is the difference in the signing bonus and contract for pick 12 vs. 22 ? I can't give you the exact dollars but I'd venture to guess its in the millions.

Merriman went number 12 to SD. If SD knew that he would fire his agent after the draft and hire the Potstons think he would have gone at 12 ? Maybe, but I doubt it. We passed on Merriman because someone sniffed out that this kids was ready to pull the bait and switch.

You defend him because he was trying to (and suceeded in SD) to fool teams as to who the team will be dealing with as an agent. Now Merriman is not even in camp.

As far as Edwards was concerned, he is just crying because he wanted to be picked and slotted higher in the draft, gaining him more money.

Have you ever been on a job interveiw competing with 10 people for one job ? Maybe you got the job or someone else did. But I bet MOST of the people who did interveiw were told that they were a strong candidate, but 9 people walked away without the job offer.

While I'm on a rant, I don't like the fact that every kid must make the little leauge team now. I didn't and was cut. I was upset, but life goes on. Every kid must play in Little leauge baseball. Again, I didn't (Thank god for football...lol). Now they don't even keep score in games because they don't want to hurt any little fellers feelings. Well, there goes the motivation to do and get better.

I drank water from a garden hose and streams in the woods, I'm still alive. Kids now have to have "Bottled water". I didn't have 200 cable TV channels to choose from as a kid. So we went outside and played. I didn't have video games (I have to admit, my neighbor had pong) or computers to chat on, we had a rotary phone.

Kids in general are whiners (Mine included) because society these days is structered like a bad Dr. Spock movie. Give them what they want so they don't whine.

Life is full of disapointments. He wants to be treated "Like a man". Well, men are judged in my book how they handle disapointments. You pick yourself up and move on...Or you crawl in a fetal position and whine and complain.

Merriman and Edwards are acting like TO on the Feagles. Making millions for playing a game. Shockey is complaining here in NY that he had to stay in and block more last year because the Giants O-line was decimated with injuries. I guess that lowered the amount of pass's he could catch, lowering his stat numbers and bargining position when he is up for a new contract. Hello, its a team sport. Or it used to be. Whining because they think they should have 10 million instead of 9 million.

You may suffer the fools, I don't.

 

[CoCo]

The truth, IMHO, is that there is an ethics opportunity wrapped up in all this. I do not personally believe that there is one absolute right or wrong way to handle this particular situation. I don't think its black and white. But that IMO isn't therefore a license to do whatever is self-serving without regard for anyone else. I don't think you necessarily check certain ethics at the door because 'everyone is doing it'.

I think its a great opportunity to consider what would send a positive message about truth, honor and integrity and I think its great that some here see that and have made some great suggestions. But I don't think there is one absolute right answer. Good one to wrestle with.

 

[Doomsday101]

Personally I think some of these guys need to grow up. Until you actually get drafted no one knows for sure what any team may or may not do. Plans change and they change quickly the closer to draft day.

 

[Bizwah]

While we're at it, let's just outlaw playfakes.

I mean, deception is involved, and that's dishonest.

Come on............

My wife and I are in the market for a mini-van (yes, I've finally given in to the inevitable). When I ask what the price is on the van and they tell it to me, is that really going to be the price? No.........I'm going to try to talk them down as low as possible. The price I pay on the van may be more than someone else, or less.

They'll also use other customers against each other. I've been told so many times that other folks are seriously looking at the care I'm looking at, in the hopes of pressuring me into buy the care before someone else does.

Are the car dealers being underhanded? No, that's just a part of it.

Posturing is a part of the process in all businesses.

 

[Hoov]

These players kill me with "they lied to me" crap. The NFL is a business and teams have been conducting business this way for years and will continue to do so. They are not going to tip their hands and admint they are only interested in a single player. The Dolphins probably had some interest in Edwards, heck just about every team did, so if the Dolphins could swing a deal that got them a few more picks then so be it.

These guys should just feel blessed that they are given the talent that allows them to make millions of dollars playing a kids game.

My feelings exactly !! So lucky to have a career in the NFL, why even complain bout what team your on, just play the game.

 

[Hostile]

While we're at it, let's just outlaw playfakes.

I mean, deception is involved, and that's dishonest.

Come on............

My wife and I are in the market for a mini-van (yes, I've finally given in to the inevitable). When I ask what the price is on the van and they tell it to me, is that really going to be the price? No.........I'm going to try to talk them down as low as possible. The price I pay on the van may be more than someone else, or less.

They'll also use other customers against each other. I've been told so many times that other folks are seriously looking at the care I'm looking at, in the hopes of pressuring me into buy the care before someone else does.

Are the car dealers being underhanded? No, that's just a part of it.

Posturing is a part of the process in all businesses.

Great post.

 

[Alexander]

It's a matter of honor.

Show me an NFL GM who has "honor" when it comes to a draft and I show you someone who gets completely outwitted and outclassed.

This is not an ethics challenge. The draft is a game of poker. If you don't bluff, you lose.

But let's shed a tear for the players that are going to get more money in a signing bonus than most of us will make in our lifetimes.

Let's get real, how can an evil organization like Miami live with themselves.

 

[Hostile]

Show me an NFL GM who has "honor" when it comes to a draft and I show you someone who gets completely outwitted and outclassed.

This is not an ethics challenge. The draft is a game of poker. If you don't bluff, you lose.

But let's shed a tear for the players that are going to get more money in a signing bonus than most of us will make in our lifetimes.

Let's get real, how can an evil organization like Miami live with themselves.

Last place every year.

It's chess with human players.

 

[Trophy#6]

Merriman has no justification..he thought he was going to be drafted with the 11th spot...nobody but the Cowboys and the couple of teams below that even care. However, Edwards was a #3....imagine if Troy had been lied to after all the hoopla of basically just throwing that last game with the Cards so we could get him and then didn't.

Who is to say he isn't one of the most stand-up guys in this years draft...you know the type, they believe a handshake stands for everything. Seriously, you guys all talk about big buisness and this is the way the "nfl works", well a large portion of big buisness and I'd be willing to be the nfl too, is run on honor and one's word- if it wasn't, nothing would ever get done.

As the great JR Ewing once said... "Contracts are meant to be broken, but a handshake is your word to God"

 

[Zaxor]

While we're at it, let's just outlaw playfakes.

I mean, deception is involved, and that's dishonest.

Come on............

My wife and I are in the market for a mini-van (yes, I've finally given in to the inevitable). When I ask what the price is on the van and they tell it to me, is that really going to be the price? No.........I'm going to try to talk them down as low as possible. The price I pay on the van may be more than someone else, or less.

They'll also use other customers against each other. I've been told so many times that other folks are seriously looking at the care I'm looking at, in the hopes of pressuring me into buy the care before someone else does.

Are the car dealers being underhanded? No, that's just a part of it.

Posturing is a part of the process in all businesses.

What did Jesus do at the sight of all the dihonest business practices at the church...

You dismiss it in the name of business... How about a hired killer...hey its just business right? lying, cheating and misleading others... while not against state law is against God's law...You really ought to think twice about what is and what is not acceptable business behaviour... If we (as that collective society) do not look down on poor business practices it will only get worse...We (again as that collective society) talk about setting examples for our children..but what example do we really set if we condone or even worse practice such immoral ethics...

It is not okay to lie cheat or mislead with the intent to harm whether that harm comes through emotionally, spiritually or physcial...sometimes lies are spoken to encourage the weak or sick...those are know as white lies.. but they too can leave scars...it is sometimes better to not say anything if you have to lie

That so many find it acceptable behavior is a testament to how very low our generations have sunk... for instance would you expect George Washington to lie to you ... no of course not... but you wouldn't find it surprising to know that George W. Bush did now would you...

the same can go with probably most of your Grandparents' grand parents you wouldn't expect them to have done something immorally reprehensible but were they alive today it might not surprise you

And because character and ethics do count whether in business or private. I took the time to type this in hopes that it might effect one heart...and that one heart will change the person and he will pass the gift on so that eventually a nation will change

Peace

 

[ravidubey]

I am so tired of athletes right now. They are such P***ies. Seriously. What do they expect. This is the 3rd story today I heard about a player drafted in various sports who are all red-assed over being "lied" to. Teams tell at least 10 players every draft that they are "their man." God, get an education.

These are 20-22 year old kids who aren't used to not getting their way. They really don't know any better, so attitudes like this should be taken with a grain of salt. If it helps motivate them, then so be it. If they can manage to prove themselves on the field they'll forget all about it.

 

[Doomsday101]

What did Jesus do at the sight of all the dihonest business practices at the church...

You dismiss it in the name of business... How about a hired killer...hey its just business right? lying, cheating and misleading others... while not against state law is against God's law...You really ought to think twice about what is and what is not acceptable business behaviour... If we (as that collective society) do not look down on poor business practices it will only get worse...We (again as that collective society) talk about setting examples for our children..but what example do we really set if we condone or even worse practice such immoral ethics...

It is not okay to lie cheat or mislead with the intent to harm whether that harm comes through emotionally, spiritually or physcial...sometimes lies are spoken to encourage the weak or sick...those are know as white lies.. but they too can leave scars...it is sometimes better to not say anything if you have to lie

That so many find it acceptable behavior is a testament to how very low our generations have sunk... for instance would you expect George Washington to lie to you ... no of course not... but you wouldn't find it surprising to know that George W. Bush did now would you...

the same can go with probably most of your Grandparents' grand parents you wouldn't expect them to have done something immorally reprehensible but were they alive today it might not surprise you

And because character and ethics do count whether in business or private. I took the time to type this in hopes that it might effect one heart...and that one heart will change the person and he will pass the gift on so that eventually a nation will change

Peace

Gosh NFL teams better not run any play action that would be like lying. Teams talk to a lot of player and until they actually pull the trigger on a player they are not obligated to him what so ever. Teams do change their minds or when a player is still on the board they did not expect to be or just to throw other teams off of what they may or may not do. Sorry I see nothing unethical about this, both Edwards and Merriman were drafted in the 1st rd they are both now in the NFL they need to shut their mouth and earn the money their respective teams are paying them

 

[Zaxor]

Gosh NFL teams better not run any play action that would be like lying. Teams talk to a lot of player and until they actually pull the trigger on a player they are not obligated to him what so ever. Teams do change their minds or when a player is still on the board they did not expect to be or just to throw other teams off of what they may or may not do. Sorry I see nothing unethical about this, both Edwards and Merriman were drafted in the 1st rd they are both now in the NFL they need to shut their mouth and earn the money their respective teams are paying them

Go ahead and play dumb...I will believe it

Like I stated in this thread it can be done easily with out lying

simply tell him we like you at this position but there is another prospect we like also..It does not tip your hand to other teams and does not make you out a liar...

Peace

 

[Doomsday101]

I can't beleive this is even an issue, it is a fricken game where grown men are being paid millions to play a kids game and now these idiots get bent out of shape and your giving a morals lesson. These guys need to do a lot of growing up

 

[Zaxor]

I can't beleive this is even an issue, it is a fricken game where grown men are being paid millions to play a kids game and now these idiots get bent out of shape and your giving a morals lesson. These guys need to do a lot of growing up

Its a business (as we have been reminded time and time again)... they are bent out of shape from poor ethical practice as you should be... and we all grow up too fast and forget what was truly wonderful about life

Peace