CFZ Breaking History

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jared Goff absolutely was. Unless you feel 26 is aging

Goff was playing some of the worst football of his career around that time.

 

[KJJ]

Oh my. Well, Seattle moved on from him because he wanted out and because his salary cap hit was so high.

He struggled in Denver because of the terrible HC and terrible offense. This is common knowledge and not new news.

Seattle moved on because he wasn’t happy and he wasn’t worth the money they were paying him anymore. He had a losing QB record his final season in Seattle under a great HC. He’s clearly not the player he was.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Russell Wilson had a no trade clause. That just means he can’t be traded to a team he doesn’t want to go to. If Dallas is fed up with him, they’ll get him to agree to a trade one way or another

It’s different. Russ wanted to go.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Or a top unit. They will need an even better performance than they had vs SF and the offense cannot give the ball away.

I agree there. They will go nowhere with Dak playing like that.

 

[Rockport]

Same ish, different thread.
Every dang day.

Sigh.

Same ole ****.

 

[CCBoy]

It did not help. During the regular season, the offensive line looked good and the running backs were doing great. Can’t always have number one receivers across the board. Has his favorite target Schultz and a true number one in Lamb which is way more than lots of other clubs.

He was inconsistent and looked older (athletically) in several games.

Didn't nearly reach the burden of proof involved for the team being below it's own strong levels of play, but for injury and poor dominance by the receiving group.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Goff was playing some of the worst football of his career around that time.

Well, semantically his rookie season was substantially worse. His final year in La wasn’t bad by any means, it just wasn’t his typically fringe pro bowl self. But that’s why it’s a comparable situation. I don’t feel Dak was playing better last year than he had been in the past. Some of the INTs were definitely receiver problems, but a lot also weren’t. I can’t remember the last time he played as bad as week 1, that’s probably the worst game of his career, and week 18 is probably the second worst

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You don’t think Derek Carr or Russell Wilson are good quarterbacks?

Not at all. Not based on what I saw last season. Derek Carr got benched and Russ should’ve been. Maybe they bounce back this year but Russ was bad.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Not at all. Not based on what I saw last season. Derek Carr got benched and Russ should’ve been. Maybe they bounce back this year but Russ was bad.

I agree they were bad, but I don’t think the one year should be indicative of who they are overall as players right now. A lot of what happened to Russ last year was everything else around him. Goff took a year to settle in to Detroit, Deshaun took a year for Cleveland, Alex Smith even though he made the pro bowl year 1 in KC took a year to get back to being as good as he was in SF.

Russ didn’t suddenly forget how to play football, the coach was bad and the system they had him in was dumb

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Well, semantically his rookie season was substantially worse. His final year in La wasn’t bad by any means, it just wasn’t his typically fringe pro bowl self. But that’s why it’s a comparable situation. I don’t feel Dak was playing better last year than he had been in the past. Some of the INTs were definitely receiver problems, but a lot also weren’t. I can’t remember the last time he played as bad as week 1, that’s probably the worst game of his career, and week 18 is probably the second worst

He had quite a few bad games last year. We'll find out this year if he's truly regressed but I don't know how anyone can say he's as good as he was a few years ago before his injury. He doesn't even run anymore.

 

[Blitzen]

Didn't nearly reach the burden of proof involved for the team being below its own strong levels of play, but for injury and poor dominance by the receiving group.

I’m not arguing that the receivers were great. Dak played very poorly in several games last season. The SF game he looked off the entire game EVEN when there was time and receiver was open. If he cannot improve-especially in the biggest contests then there should be no future with him.

 

[CCBoy]

I’m not arguing that the receivers were great. Dak played very poorly in several games last season. The SF game he looked off the entire game EVEN when there was time and receiver was open. If he cannot improve-especially in the biggest contests then there should be no future with him.

What happened with Troy Aikman in the NFC Championship Game in 1994 against San Francisco...still just a presentation of a special case ignoring facts of application for stereotype once again. The sun is already down now...but poorly explained as to team factors. At least be honest now!

 

[KJJ]

You could say the exact same about seasonal flukes with Russell Wilson you just tore down in the previous post as a good reason for Seattle to drop him.

As for the Tampa game, Some teams have higher aspirations than winning a road wild card game. Again, it’s a matter of what the goals of the organization are. It’s cool that he won the first road playoff game in however long, but it’s the same result had they won one just the year prior. Garoppolo has had a myriad of impressive playoff wins the last 4 seasons, SF didnt care. Like you, they had a loaded roster. But they they felt they could get better results from it, so they tried to improve the position.

This is becoming way too time consuming for me. I’ll leave you with this. Jimmy G is going to have his struggles on a Raiders team that doesn’t have near the defense San Francisco has.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

This is becoming way too time consuming for me. I’ll leave you with this, Jimmy G is going to have his struggles on a Raiders team that doesn’t have near the defense San Francisco has. He’s also going to continue having problems staying healthy. There’s a reason the 49ers moved on.

If Dak went to a team with a bad roster, he’d play worse too. That’s how it works.

Jimmy G made the SB in 2019. Since then He’s missed 18 games in 3 years

Dak Prescott has missed 17 games those same 3 years

 

[CCBoy]

It did not help. During the regular season, the offensive line looked good and the running backs were doing great. Can’t always have number one receivers across the board. Has his favorite target Schultz and a true number one in Lamb which is way more than lots of other clubs.

He was inconsistent and looked older (athletically) in several games.

On anthrax and total destruction of cattle herds, ranchers didn't believe in vaccines when the germ couldn't even be seen by eye.

We took anthrax vaccinations prior to deployment to Iraq in Desert Storm...c'mon on real principals.

 

[KJJ]

If Dak went to a team with a bad roster, he’d play worse too. That’s how it works.

Jimmy G made the SB in 2019. Since then He’s missed 18 games in 3 years

Dak Prescott has missed 17 games those same 3 years

San Francisco was never thrilled with Jimmy G which is why they gave up the farm for Trey Lance. The 49ers know had they had a better QB they would’ve beaten Kansas City in the Super Bowl.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

San Francisco was never thrilled with Jimmy G which is why they gave up the farm for Trey Lance. The 49ers know had they had a better QB they would’ve beaten Kansas City in the Super Bowl.

And if you had a better QB you would have beaten SF both seasons. That argument also works for everybody. They were very close games with a few glaring mistakes that would have completely flipped it.

I don’t agree they were never thrilled with him. They traded assets for him, gave him a record contract after seeing him perform for them; the locker room loves him. The divide began when he couldn’t stay healthy

 

[America's Cowboy]

Yes exactly, and Dak Prescott just led the world in interceptions despite playing only 12 games and has had back to back disappointing playoff outings that you probably win with a slightly better QB. Again, I’m not saying you should trade him, but none of these arguments are contradicting anything.

We can Jimmy G next. Started the most games for NFCCG team SF last year, also made the NFCCG 2021 and the Super Bowl 2019

And Jalen Hurts fumbled the football on his own for a TD to cost your Eagles a Super Bowl victory after having a 10 point lead to start the 4th quarter. The same Jalen Hurts who struggled to throw for a mere 155 yards for a single digit score win against a Cooper Rush led Cowboys team on October 16, 2022 at Philthy. Talk about mental choke city when it matters the most, but hey, let's bash on the Cowboys QB. LMAO

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

And Jalen Hurts fumbled the football on his own for a TD to cost your Eagles a Super Bowl victory after having a 10 point lead to start the 4th quarter. The same Jalen Hurts who struggled to throw for a mere 155 yards for a single digit score win against a Cooper Rush led Cowboys team on October 16, 2022 at Philthy. Talk about choke city when it matters the most, but hey, let's bash on the Cowboys QB. LOL

Choking in a multiple possession win is an interesting perspective, but yeah we probably win the SB if he doesn’t fumble

 

[KJJ]

And if you had a better QB you would have beaten SF both seasons. That argument also works for everybody. They were very close games with a few glaring mistakes that would have completely flipped it.

I don’t agree they were never thrilled with him. They traded assets for him, gave him a record contract after seeing him perform for them; the locker room loves him. The divide began when he couldn’t stay healthy

You’re wrong, because our defense played a part in those two losses, plus we had no running game either time. In the playoff loss in 2021 we got beat in the trenches. In last seasons playoff loss, George Kittle made a huge play. Dak played terrible, but it wasn’t all on him. If you want to keep going, feel free but I’m done.