Brian Waters

[Galian Beast]

It is a non answer, leading to the perception you never really thought about the guy so you gave a vague non answer to cover your arse.

Exactly...

 

[shockandroll]

Here's what Garrett said:

"He's been so good for so long, pro bowl player for a lot of years. And he's some we certainly talked about; we talked about a lot of different guys. He seems like he's settled into a role up there, that's helping their football team. He looks like the same kind of guy that's been playing for a number of years."

Read between the lines. They thought he was done. NE took a chance, and it turns out that he's still playing at a high level.

Oh well, sometimes you guess wrong.

And there it is. The same reason we cut Davis and did not move Gurode to guard is why we did not sign him. We were not looking for a patch, we were looking for the pieces to make a solid line for years to come.

 

[shockandroll]

Complaining is like holding a wish in one hand and a pile of crap in the other, it serves no purpose other than making one of your hands stink.

Put down the crap and deal with the here and now.

We didn't sign Waters, good. Move on, let it go.

lol, now I'm embarrassed with my response. I meant what you said.

 

[Stash]

And there it is. The same reason we cut Davis and did not move Gurode to guard is why we did not sign him. We were not looking for a patch, we were looking for the pieces to make a solid line for years to come.

Yeah, pieces like Derrick freakin' Dockery.

Real 'building block' there...

It was a good question and the Cowboys should be second-guessed on it.

The guy wanted to come 'home' to play in Texas and the Cowboys screwed-up and didn't sign him, instead choosing to keep a fat bum like Montrae Holland around for weeks until he proved many of us correct and was sent packing.

And now Waters is a key contributor to the machine that is the New England offense.

And Dockery looked terrible in his one game of action and then got hurt and missed significant time.

But the apologists of course want to 'move on'.

:cop:

 

[Nexx]

I'm happy Nagy is getting playin time and developing

 

[supercowboy8]

maybe Waters didn't want to be a Cowboy. Maybe he didn't like it when Dallas cut him after he was signed as a UDFA and then went on to have a great career. Maybe he wanted to play for a for sure winner. Why do you think he would have wanted to play for Dallas, he does have a choice.

 

[Stash]

maybe Waters didn't want to be a Cowboy. Maybe he didn't like it when Dallas cut him after he was signed as a UDFA and then went on to have a great career. Maybe he wanted to play for a for sure winner. Why do you think he would have wanted to play for Dallas, he does have a choice.

Maybe a report like this (among others):

Most likely it's the former and the word out of Dallas is that they're "kicking the tires" on Waters, good news for the Texas product as it would provide a homecoming of sorts at the end of a career. Richie Whitt of the Dallas Observer writes, "At 34, he's still got a little tread on the tire and I hear he has a desire to finish his career close to home in Dallas. The Cowboys haven't made him a contract offer, but a source last night told me his name comes up daily in conversations."

Born and raised near Dallas,grew up near Dallas, college in Texas, but, nah, why would he want to play there?

 

[CowboyMike]

In all fairness, Dockery did "come home" too. He was born in Dallas and played at Texas.

It really sounds like the following happened:

• The Cowboys wanted to take a flyer on a veteran lineman for backup/fill in purposes in case Nagy and/or Arkin did not pan out.
• They considered Waters and Dockery, in addition to a few other candidates most likely.
• Waters wanted a multi-year respectable contract.
• Dallas wanted a guy for one year, vet minimum.
• Dockery took it. Waters didn't.
• If Dockery panned out, then Dallas could sign him for a couple years as insurance. Waters most likely not, because he probably only has one year left in him.

 

[shockandroll]

Yeah, pieces like Derrick freakin' Dockery.

Real 'building block' there...

It was a good question and the Cowboys should be second-guessed on it.

The guy wanted to come 'home' to play in Texas and the Cowboys screwed-up and didn't sign him, instead choosing to keep a fat bum like Montrae Holland around for weeks until he proved many of us correct and was sent packing.

And now Waters is a key contributor to the machine that is the New England offense.

And Dockery looked terrible in his one game of action and then got hurt and missed significant time.

But the apologists of course want to 'move on'.

:cop:

You need a tissue Frances?

 

[shockandroll]

In all fairness, Dockery did "come home" too. He was born in Dallas and played at Texas.

It really sounds like the following happened:

• The Cowboys wanted to take a flyer on a veteran lineman for backup/fill in purposes in case Nagy and/or Arkin did not pan out.
• They considered Waters and Dockery, in addition to a few other candidates most likely.
• Waters wanted a multi-year respectable contract.
• Dallas wanted a guy for one year, vet minimum.
• Dockery took it. Waters didn't.
• If Dockery panned out, then Dallas could sign him for a couple years as insurance. Waters most likely not, because he probably only has one year left in him.

Aside from all of the intelligent points and well thought out comments, this post was absurd.

 

[Stash]

In all fairness, Dockery did "come home" too. He was born in Dallas and played at Texas.

It really sounds like the following happened:

• The Cowboys wanted to take a flyer on a veteran lineman for backup/fill in purposes in case Nagy and/or Arkin did not pan out.

Arkin? Who's he? He's been an afterthought since week 2 of the preseason.

• They considered Waters and Dockery, in addition to a few other candidates most likely.

You mean like keeping Montrae Holland around for all of the preseason?

Waters wanted a multi-year respectable contract.

So we just shopped off the bargain rack?

Dallas wanted a guy for one year, vet minimum.

"Just go cheap baby!"

Dockery took it. Waters didn't.

Waters was in New England before Dockery came to Dallas.

If Dockery panned out, then Dallas could sign him for a couple years as insurance. Waters most likely not, because he probably only has one year left in him.

One more year at least than Dockery!

It was the same garbage spewed from people when he was available.

"He's old"

"He's washed-up"

"He can't play"

"If he's so good, why is he available?"

And, just like Mickey Spagnola, they were wrong, wrong, wrong.

 

[Stash]

You need a tissue Frances?

You just keep those blinders on Mr Simpson, you'll sleep better.

:blind:

 

[Stash]

Aside from all of the intelligent points and well thought out comments, this post was absurd.

None being accurate of course, but don't let that stop you.

 

[shockandroll]

None being accurate of course, but don't let that stop you.

I see, here's a tissue.

 

[Stash]

I see, here's a tissue.

"Cowboys are great, never make mistakes, Cowboys are great, never make mistakes, Cowboys are great, never make mistakes...."

:mummy:

 

[Red Dragon]

We might as well ask why the Cowboys didn't draft Tom Brady when he was available in the third, fourth, fifth rounds in 2000.

 

[Stash]

We might as well ask why the Cowboys didn't draft Tom Brady when he was available in the third, fourth, fifth rounds in 2000.

Too busy drafting this bunch of future Pro Bowlers:

2Dwayne GoodrichTennessee
4Kareem LarrimoreWest Texas A&M
5Michael WileyOhio State
6Mario EdwardsFlorida State
7Orantes GrantGeorgia

I think one of 'em was just released from jail, maybe they'll re-sign him?

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Maybe a report like this (among others):

Most likely it's the former and the word out of Dallas is that they're "kicking the tires" on Waters, good news for the Texas product as it would provide a homecoming of sorts at the end of a career. Richie Whitt of the Dallas Observer writes, "At 34, he's still got a little tread on the tire and I hear he has a desire to finish his career close to home in Dallas. The Cowboys haven't made him a contract offer, but a source last night told me his name comes up daily in conversations."

Born and raised near Dallas,grew up near Dallas, college in Texas, but, nah, why would he want to play there?

A single reporter throws it out there that a declining player supposedly wanted to play in Dallas and it's now 100% unquestionably true and therefore our front office including Garret are idiots because a few of you didn't get your pet cat?

How many dozens of times did we see that Weddle AND his extended family wanted him to play in Dallas? By the time the CBA was settled, the Dallas media had decided it was a foregone conclusion that he was our starting safety. If your using a random article on the player, you're wildly grasping for straws.

Non-story.

 

[Stash]

A single reporter throws it out there that a declining player supposedly wanted to play in Dallas and it's now 100% unquestionably true and therefore our front office including Garret are idiots because a few of you didn't get your pet cat?

No.

You continue to believe whatever doesn't make the Cowboys look like complete fools. No matter what reality tells you.

How many dozens of times did we see that Weddle AND his extended family wanted him to play in Dallas? By the time the CBA was settled, the Dallas media had decided it was a foregone conclusion that he was our starting safety.

Personally? Never. Everything I heard or read about Weddle said he was a West Coast guy. Turned out to be true. Same way I heard nothing but great things about Brian Waters both on and off the field and that he was a Texas guy and wanted to return there. That turned out to be true too.

If your using a random article on the player, you're wildly grasping for straws.

That was simply the only one mentioned in this thread so it was easy to point out to those who tried to overlook it.

Non-story.

For you maybe.

But you continue to try to sweep every misstep and mistake this team makes under the rug if it helps you deal with them.

 

[Eskimo]

Stash, we obviously wanted a cheaper player and one who wouldn't be a progress stopper for the type of OL Garrett is trying to put together. Watters likely didn't want to play on those terms. It seems pretty obvious to me.