News: Brice Butler to Dallas

speedkilz88 said:
2013 was the leaked board year and they didn't have him on their draft board. He got on their radar since being in the pros.
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I'm not claiming they had him on their board what I am saying is Dallas was scouting Escobar at the SDST pro day and I'm sure got a good look at Butler. When teams are out scouting they compile information on all the kids during these pro days
 
So now we have Ecobar's teammate. Tyron's roommate. Slew of Ok State kids. They are building a family oriented environment.
Seems like a fun team to play for. Maybe our own players are helping in the scouting. They know better than anyone if someone can play football or not.
 
I can't beleive this thread has gone on this long.

First off, there is no one available that can replace Dez Bryant. It isn't going to happen.

The veteran options aren't really options. Reggie Wayne just doesn't have it anymore. Some want to discount the talk but it is pretty clear what happened in NE. Hakeem Nicks wasn't great at the end of his time with the Giants and has bounced around ever since. AJ Jenkins has not made it with multiple teams and wasn't even the best receiver we cut out of training camp. I would say Nick Harwell was better overall. Why aren't people clamoring for him? Nick Toon is awful, as is Clyde Gates. Wes Welker isn't an outside receiver. The guy we got is a raw talent that has performed when he has been on the field. The Raiders coach and GM are not exactly known as the sharpest guys and their offense has been a mess for years. It is hard to judge any of their skill positions since they don't have a good OL and they have had bad or young QBs.

As for the cost, first we owe them NOTHING unless he is on the 53 for 6 games. So it is a free test drive. If he does make it for 6 games, they get our 5th...and we get their 6th. The likelihood is that there might be 10 picks or less between the two spots. That is almost nothing to give up for a guy that is a late rounder. He has already beat the odds as a 7th rounder...has been on the team every year since drafted.

If Romo is the QB that many of us think he is, he will make Butler the best receiver he can be. There are many QB's that just get it done with whoever is out there catching passes. I think Romo is one of these guys. He did with Laurent Robinson. He did with with Miles Austin and Patrick Crayton and Sam Hurd.

Chances are Butler won't make a difference at all for at least a couple weeks as he gets familiar with the offense. Dallas' best course of action moving forward is more two TE sets, with Beasley and Williams the outside WR's....or even putting Escobar out wide with Beasley in the slot. Pretty sure Escobar worked a lot on the outside in camp. Given Dunbar's performance, I am also sure we will see him more on passing downs as a viable candidate. I also think we are going to do our best to level out the run/pass disparity from a week ago.
 
Fla Cowpoke said:
I can't beleive this thread has gone on this long.

First off, there is no one available that can replace Dez Bryant. It isn't going to happen.

The veteran options aren't really options. Reggie Wayne just doesn't have it anymore. Some want to discount the talk but it is pretty clear what happened in NE. Hakeem Nicks wasn't great at the end of his time with the Giants and has bounced around ever since. AJ Jenkins has not made it with multiple teams and wasn't even the best receiver we cut out of training camp. I would say Nick Harwell was better overall. Why aren't people clamoring for him? Nick Toon is awful, as is Clyde Gates. Wes Welker isn't an outside receiver. The guy we got is a raw talent that has performed when he has been on the field. The Raiders coach and GM are not exactly known as the sharpest guys and their offense has been a mess for years. It is hard to judge any of their skill positions since they don't have a good OL and they have had bad or young QBs.

As for the cost, first we owe them NOTHING unless he is on the 53 for 6 games. So it is a free test drive. If he does make it for 6 games, they get our 5th...and we get their 6th. The likelihood is that there might be 10 picks or less between the two spots. That is almost nothing to give up for a guy that is a late rounder. He has already beat the odds as a 7th rounder...has been on the team every year since drafted.

If Romo is the QB that many of us think he is, he will make Butler the best receiver he can be. There are many QB's that just get it done with whoever is out there catching passes. I think Romo is one of these guys. He did with Laurent Robinson. He did with with Miles Austin and Patrick Crayton and Sam Hurd.

Chances are Butler won't make a difference at all for at least a couple weeks as he gets familiar with the offense. Dallas' best course of action moving forward is more two TE sets, with Beasley and Williams the outside WR's....or even putting Escobar out wide with Beasley in the slot. Pretty sure Escobar worked a lot on the outside in camp. Given Dunbar's performance, I am also sure we will see him more on passing downs as a viable candidate. I also think we are going to do our best to level out the run/pass disparity from a week ago.
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I agree. He is not here to replace Dez there is no one out there on the streets capable of it. Butler just adds to the numbers at WR. I think he is a guy who has skill levels that has a chance to stick with the team once Dez does come back. We will see.
 
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Also, I'm pretty glad we picked up Butler and not Nicks or Wayne. I was hoping for a WR that can stretch the field.
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Entomologist?
 
Awesome trade, we basically get a 5 game test drive.

Street showed he can't be trusted to protect the ball. You fumble and you sit, unless you are a stud. That is how Garrett rolls
 
I believe there's a decent chance Brice Butler could pleasantly surprise many Cowboys fans if he's afforded a chance to demonstrate his potential. He's already had two very productive offseasons with Oakland. Despite that happening, they chose to go with experienced veterans, hence curbing his development.

There are many in the Bay area and elsewhere that feel we fleeced Oakland in that trade and are disappointed that they curbed his development in so doing. Lately, the Raiders allowed Butler to get away to clear a roster spot, which enabled them to make a hasty trade to get an experienced safety. It's entirely conceivable that such a decision could, in time, become an embarassment to them.

Since Romo has already proven what he can do with someone like Laurent Robinson. It wouldn't be terribly surprising if he were capable of repeating that feat with Butler in Dallas. Given enough time to familiarize him with their offensive system, that same scenario might be duplicated. If it happened once, it could happen again.
 
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