Broaddus FO thinks they are set at safety

[TheSport78]

I feel like if we wasted a 1st round pick on a safety and he didnt light the world on fire his rookie year, this board would want us to take another safety next year and bemoan that we dont have an eye for talent and woe is me, we need backfield help. Ppl were making this same argument that having Claiborne and Carr in the backfield would make our secondary so much better. and yet they still were getting carved up. PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE build from the front and the back will get better.

What if we "wasted" a first round pick on a safety and he DID light it up his rookie year? That's the draft. It's a crapshoot.

 

[morasp]

If they can't find someone competent to start between Hamilton, Wilcox, Johnson, and Heath all in their second or third years then they may need to revisit it next year. But I think they will.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Judging by the list of visiting players revealed so far there seems to be more interest in CB than S.

 

[skinsscalper]

What if we "wasted" a first round pick on a safety and he DID light it up his rookie year? That's the draft. It's a crapshoot.

Who do you like at S in this draft that you think would be better than we already have? Honest question.

 

[Gaede]

I think it's a mistake. Their confidence in the DL last year killed us.

We're relying on a former RB from a small school, Jeff Heath and an udfa in Hamilton. I honestly think its a disaster in the making.

 

[Gaede]

Who do you like at S in this draft that you think would be better than we already have? Honest question.

Clinton Dix, Pryor and Ward are all superior prospects than what is currently on our roster. Ward in particular would make a big impact on this defense

 

[TheSport78]

Who do you like at S in this draft that you think would be better than we already have? Honest question.

I absolutely love Pryor and I think Jimmie Ward would be an upgrade as well. I have doubts about Clinton-Dix though.

 

[Cowboys22]

I'm fine with them staying in a holding pattern right now at safety. With McCray leaving, they have an open roster spot for another safety and they will no doubt fill it before the season starts. They have Hamilton who they like that may be able to win that spot and I still would like to see Sterling Moore given a shot at FS. I know he may have issues tackling but I just get the feeling he would be around the ball all the time from the safety spot. I think they can go into the draft with what they have at safety and only take one if someone represents the best value on the board. They can then see where they are in OTAs and pick up a veteran if they need to. There will be plenty of veteran safeties available at bargain prices as teams make cuts later in the Summer. They will have plenty of cap space available after Austin's money is freed up on June 1st to go get a veteran safety if needed. I say let the young guys battle it out all Summer, see if Johnson can stay healthy, give Moore a shot, and then go get a veteran if you aren't happy with the way it's going.

 

[visionary]

Nothing to see here guys

Our crack FO thinks we are set at safety and given their track record of success, who is anyone to question them?

 

[visionary]

what a freaking joke,i just cannot believe they are ok with t


safety is a huge need imo.we need safeties who can play in space for the tampa 2 and we dont have any on our roster,Qbs will just throw it to guys near our safeties and its a easy catch every time because they are poor in recognition and dont break early on the ball.

we need to have some ready made excuses for next off season
cue the "you cant upgrade the entire defense in one year" as the leading candidate before the season has even started
it will be the CZ homer rallying cry by mid season

 

[CATCH17]

We can't get everything in 1 offseason so I don't blame them for wanting to look at the young guys.

We are by no means set but we have some guys that could develop into solid starters at best.

 

[Risen Star]

We can't get everything in 1 offseason so I don't blame them for wanting to look at the young guys.

We are by no means set but we have some guys that could develop into solid starters at best.

But you still keep an open mind to a safety in the draft.

 

[skinsscalper]

I absolutely love Pryor and I think Jimmie Ward would be an upgrade as well. I have doubts about Clinton-Dix though.

Agreed on Dix. I think that guy has bust written all over him. Pryor is intriguing but the front 7 is a much higher priority in the 1st this year. I don't know anything about Ward. Where is he projected to go?

 

[CATCH17]

But you still keep an open mind to a safety in the draft.

Of course. They don't but they should.

They probably are more interested in a corner.

 

[TheSport78]

Agreed on Dix. I think that guy has bust written all over him. Pryor is intriguing but the front 7 is a much higher priority in the 1st this year. I don't know anything about Ward. Where is he projected to go?

I'm hearing late 1st-early 2nd? He's a solid cover guy, so that would allow Church to play more in the box. I just don't like Church playing single high...

 

[DanteEXT]

We set records in crappy pass defense... Carr was leaving Megatron to the safeties in the zone, and no safeties were there. How about semi-decent, instead of perfect?

Which may be what the develop in to or better. Why I figure they will roll the dice at that position. That's just my guess.

 

[The Natural]

I'm hearing late 1st-early 2nd? He's a solid cover guy, so that would allow Church to play more in the box. I just don't like Church playing single high...

Ok guys I was looking up some information on this Jimmie Ward..I know NFL Draft Tracker is not the end be all but this isnt exactly a ringing endorsement

Strengths
Flies around the field. Aggressive run supporter. Shoots downhill and chops down ball carriers. Breaks on throws and shows short-area burst to close. Has quick hands to snatch interceptions. Confident and energetic. Productive -- registered 300 tackles and 11 INTs in three seasons as a starter. Has a special-teams mentality and four blocked kicks to his credit.
Weaknesses
Size is just adequate -- lacks ideal bulk and is built more like a cornerback than a safety. Can be a tick late diagnosing pass, gaining depth and digesting route combos. Lacks elite top-end speed. Has man-coverage limitations. Inconsistent downfield ball reactions with his back to the throw. Limited functional strength to discard blockers when he gets snagged. Shows lower-body stiffness in space. Has some maturing to do and needs to learn what it means to prepare like a pro. Could rub some people the wrong way.

 

[skinsscalper]

Interesting. I'm wondering if he would be available with our 2nd. One thing I've learned about Jones is to believe about 1/3 of what comes out of his mouth. I don't know where the Cowboys have Ward on their board but if he's the highest rated player where they pick I have a hard time believing that they would pass over him without some pause and serious consideration.

There's been much made of the Cowboys passing on Floyd last season and, quite frankly, they deserved the heat. Thankfully it worked out in the Cowboys favor but the miscommunication is unfathomable. I don't think they will experience the same type of gaffe this year. I think it's all really going o come down to who Marinelli covets more (unless a very highly rated WR or O-lineman falls to the Cowboys in the first 2 rounds). From what I remember of Marinelli's defenses, though, I don't think he's ever had a blue chip type prospect at the S position. I don't think he would mind having one (who would?) but his focus seems to be more on the front 7.

Right or wrong, I have really high hopes for Wilcox. I think he has tremendous athleticism and another year in the system can only help. I think he's the best bet (if we stand pat) to play the single high safety position and frees up Church to play "down in the box" (where I think he's pretty effective). Man the draft can't get here soon enough!

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

I doubt they feel set at S. Because of the front seven situation last season, you weren't able to get a proper evaluation. My problem with drafting Wilcox was not having a vet in place to mentor him. If you have a solid vet at the tail end of his career then take a chance on a guy like Wilcox and groom him to take over. He was set up to fail. The injury list guaranteed that failure. But no point drafting someone to replace him this quick. With so many problems to overcome, there is no rush to his evaluation.

It is all about the trenches. Get the lines fixed and you can properly evaluate the rest of the team. And you have a good base to build on when you finally turn the page from Romo.

If we do not draft WR this year , we certainly will next year. Might as well draft one now when the draft is so deep at that position. Just wait till day 3 to do it.

I just do not want to see TE, RB or CB addressed until after Round 5.

 

[skinsscalper]

I doubt they feel set at S. Because of the front seven situation last season, you weren't able to get a proper evaluation. My problem with drafting Wilcox was not having a vet in place to mentor him. If you have a solid vet at the tail end of his career then take a chance on a guy like Wilcox and groom him to take over. He was set up to fail. The injury list guaranteed that failure. But no point drafting someone to replace him this quick. With so many problems to overcome, there is no rush to his evaluation.

It is all about the trenches. Get the lines fixed and you can properly evaluate the rest of the team. And you have a good base to build on when you finally turn the page from Romo.

If we do not draft WR this year , we certainly will next year. Might as well draft one now when the draft is so deep at that position. Just wait till day 3 to do it.

I just do not want to see TE, RB or CB addressed until after Round 5.

They actually did have a veteran FS that they signed and brought to camp (Will Allen, I believe). He just happened to end up being a turd. It wasn't that they didn't try to take that approach. Could they have brought in someone better? To be honest I don't even remember who was available but Allan was a ten or eleven year veteran. I think that's exactly why he was signed. I think he was brought here to mentor the new guys and start as a last resort (in case the kids couldn't handle the duties yet). He ended up being bad. Really bad. I don't remember exactly when the Cowboys released him but they cut ties with him relatively quickly and he re-signed with the Steelers a short time later.