Broaddus | Ken Bishop tweets

Risen Star said:
I am tired of talking about the safety position. We've needed an upgrade there for years and nothing ever changes.
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I'm wondering if a first round safety is there at our pick will they pull the string. I'm not certain that late a pick in the first is safe enough for a safety but I'm thinking they believe we have our two starting safeties on board. Not sure, if true, I like that.
 
xwalker said:
You're bantering with a guy that said none of the guys on the Cowboys DLine (except DLaw) should be in the NFL. He also repeatedly mocked Marinelli and his coaching methods.

Since then the Cowboys went 12-4 in the regular season and have won a playoff game. That included winning some games, including the playoff game where the offense was stalled and the defense really had to setup up to keep them in the game. Marinelli has been widely praised by experts for coaching this defense to overachieve.

It appears that your optimism was significantly more accurate than anything that he has said.
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You're right.

Many of us had a negative slant towards this defense prior to the start of training camp... But his take was mega negative.

But I could still see the chance for some improvement on the defensive line simply by cutting down the number of snaps (over 2,500 in '13) that went to bad to flat out horrible defensive lineman.

This season less than 600 snaps went to bad defensive lineman.

That in itself improved the defense considerably.

There's still work to be done, which most of us agree upon, but they're headed in the right direction. Give this defense a DE who can contribute 10 sacks and a little more consistent play at safety and you've got a top-10 defense in the making.
 
gimmesix said:
Didn't know we'd get a six-sack season from Jeremy Mincey, so I'm pretty happy about that, and I'm glad that Spencer is coming on (and possibly Lawrence) ... but we still need to try to find a double-digit guy.
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Agreed.
 
Bluefin said:
Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · 13h 13 hours ago
“@RicoSegovia75: @BryanBroaddus if needed who would be added to the 53 Coleman or Bishop?” Bishop.

Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · 12h 12 hours ago
“@DenDPT: @BryanBroaddus @RicoSegovia75 Bishop outplaying Coleman or 1 vs 3 tech thing?” Coaches calls.

Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · 4h 4 hours ago
“@JMikeG24: @BryanBroaddus Who you like most between Coleman and Bishop and which do you think will move up?” Bishop will be the one up.

Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · 4h 4 hours ago
“@rpotente3: @BryanBroaddus if bishop moves up do you think he makes impact?” I know that the starters here hate to block him. Never stops

Bryan Broaddus @BryanBroaddus · 1h 1 hour ago
“@RyanTrammel: What do you think Bishop's ceiling/potential down the road is?” Kid never stops. Like his chances to be really good in scheme
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I translate that to "I haven't seen him since preseason so outside of some grapevine talk, I have no clue."

Is somewhat of a surprise that he passed up Coleman during the season to merit the callup.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
You're right.

Many of us had a negative slant towards this defense prior to the start of training camp... But his take was mega negative.

But I could still see the chance for some improvement on the defensive line simply by cutting down the number of snaps (over 2,500 in '13) that went to bad to flat out horrible defensive lineman.

This season less than 600 snaps went to bad defensive lineman.

That in itself improved the defense considerably.

There's still work to be done, which most of us agree upon, but they're headed in the right direction. Give this defense a DE who can contribute 10 sacks and a little more consistent play at safety and you've got a top-10 defense in the making.
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You and others thought the DL might be better than most and that turned out to be correct. We need a DE who can turn the corner with lean. Lawrence has some but not enough.
 
jobberone said:
You and others thought the DL might be better than most and that turned out to be correct. We need a DE who can turn the corner with lean. Lawrence has some but not enough.
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Yep.

Well looking back on it, one could go back and see that T McClain wasn't a bad player in '13 and neither was Mincey. Bottom line once the defense got through the preseason with only Gardener being a long-term casualty, this defense had a chance.

What really saved the bacon was the emergence of Crawford at the #3. Many had high hopes based on his decent play in '12, but what he gave in '14 was top notch. He gave the Cowboys what Hatcher had given them in '13, with Hatcher being better rushing the passer and Crawford being better vs. the run.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
Yep.

Well looking back on it, one could go back and see that T McClain wasn't a bad player in '13 and neither was Mincey. Bottom line once the defense got through the preseason with only Gardener being a long-term casualty, this defense had a chance.

What really saved the bacon was the emergence of Crawford at the #3. Many had high hopes based on his decent play in '12, but what he gave in '14 was top notch. He gave the Cowboys what Hatcher had given them in '13, with Hatcher being better rushing the passer and Crawford being better vs. the run.
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Agreed. Crawford did what some thought he would. Strong player with some quickness and a good motor. Still some room to improve.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
You're right.

Many of us had a negative slant towards this defense prior to the start of training camp... But his take was mega negative.

But I could still see the chance for some improvement on the defensive line simply by cutting down the number of snaps (over 2,500 in '13) that went to bad to flat out horrible defensive lineman.

This season less than 600 snaps went to bad defensive lineman.

That in itself improved the defense considerably.

There's still work to be done, which most of us agree upon, but they're headed in the right direction. Give this defense a DE who can contribute 10 sacks and a little more consistent play at safety and you've got a top-10 defense in the making.
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I don't think you or most Cowboys fans were mocking the defense or Marinelli and his nicknames. That was all primarily done by 2 posters.

I said at the end of training camp that if you look at each position individually that they had reasonable NFL players at most positions. I had many arguments during this time frame where I said that guys like Mincey and T. McClain were decent NFL players when healthy.
 
xwalker said:
I don't think you or most Cowboys fans were mocking the defense or Marinelli and his nicknames. That was all primarily done by 2 posters.

I said at the end of training camp that if you look at each position individually that they had reasonable NFL players at most positions. I had many arguments during this time frame where I said that guys like Mincey and T. McClain were decent NFL players when healthy.
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True. I never understood the mocking of Marinelli. That just seemed to be without merit.

I think folks were butt-hurt over the loss of Hatcher and Ware. It was easy/convenient to suggest the Cowboys "traded" Hatcher and Ware for T. McClain and Mincey, which wasn't the case.

That being said, McClain didn't provide the number of snaps I thought he would, but when he did play he showed that he can contribute positively.

What can you say about Mincey? I think he had a better overall season than Ware. The Cowboys came up smelling like roses if that was indeed a "trade".
 
MichaelWinicki said:
True. I never understood the mocking of Marinelli. That just seemed to be without merit.

I think folks were butt-hurt over the loss of Hatcher and Ware. It was easy/convenient to suggest the Cowboys "traded" Hatcher and Ware for T. McClain and Mincey, which wasn't the case.

That being said, McClain didn't provide the number of snaps I thought he would, but when he did play he showed that he can contribute positively.

What can you say about Mincey? I think he had a better overall season than Ware. The Cowboys came up smelling like roses if that was indeed a "trade".
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In the case with some posters, they just like to make fun of and criticize anything related to the Cowboys. They don't need a reason.

I think T. McClain has some lingering lower body injury issues for a significant part of the season that started with him missing a large portion of training camp. He didn't always show up on the injury report but neither did guys like Spencer or Melton that we know had some limits due to past injuries.
 
xwalker said:
In the case with some posters, they just like to make fun of and criticize anything related to the Cowboys. They don't need a reason.

I think T. McClain has some lingering lower body injury issues for a significant part of the season that started with him missing a large portion of training camp. He didn't always show up on the injury report but neither did guys like Spencer or Melton that we know had some limits due to past injuries.
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Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. I liked what McClain provided, even when he wasn't at 100%. For a $1.1 mil salary next season (and the one thereafter) I think the Cowboys could come out way ahead.
 
xwalker said:
It appears that your optimism was significantly more accurate than anything that he has said.
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There is an extremely long list of things you could substitute for the words "your optimism" in that sentence that would still be true.
 
Idgit said:
It'd be great if some of these low-round rookie DLs end up taking significant reps for us in the base defense down the road. I like all of 'em, including what little we got to see of Gardener early on.
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Agreed.

Ken Bishop, Davon Coleman, Kenneth Boatright, Jack Crawford, Ben Gardner, Lavar Edwards and Chris Whaley.

It we can find a keeper or two from among these long shots, it will make rebuilding the defense quicker and cheaper.
 
xwalker said:
In the case with some posters, they just like to make fun of and criticize anything related to the Cowboys. They don't need a reason.
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Maybe it was something that happened in their playing career?


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I just saw that image on Twitter with the caption "Crackback block".
 
Mincey has turned things around. Now, the long termed effects have to be judged as do they for Selvie. Anthony Spencer has made it difficult for being allowed to seek another team for a pay day. That alone is a difference maker.
 
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