Broaddus on Arkin

[skinsscalper]

There is really no inconsistencies in these reports. Just how much context is applied.

Brian is evaluating Arkin as a 2nd year player, from a small school who we drafted as a long term developmental guy. He is the 5th option behind Costa, Kowalski, Nagy, and Bern coming in. Three or so weeks later, he has to play center. In that context, he did pretty well.

Of course, context doesn't win games. Sturm is evaluating Arkin as a guy starting at center for an NFL team. In that context, he sucked.

What does this tell us? Not much. Arkin, in his first try, was not great. That doesn't tell us much. Few guys come in and rock it. I expect you'd find few players with Arkin's background who could come in and do better though.

Me, I see I guy who came in. He battled and got eaten up by better players. He's a year away still but he could contribute here.

Pretty fair assessment, really.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Broaddus is a franchise shill, his "opinion" is dicatated by higher powers and means absolutely nothing.

 

[Bluestang]

Bob Sturm‏@SportsSturm
“@BryanBroaddus: All Things Considered, Arkin Did Well In Center Debut: http://******/RS4PZC >>I Disagree, but BKB has worthy review of 62.

Bryan Broaddus‏@BryanBroaddus
@Fantasyretard I do respect @SportsSturm eye for player personnel reviews. It happens all the time in this business. Write what you see.

Bob Sturm‏@SportsSturm
@Fantasyretard@BryanBroaddus I imagine if he takes too much longer to be active on game day, then it is a clear 4th round reach.

Bryan Broaddus‏@BryanBroaddus
@SportsSturm@Fantasyretard I agree with Bob here. I honestly expected the worst in the game but didn't get it. If he sucked I would say it

 

[Doomsay]

There is really no inconsistencies in these reports. Just how much context is applied.

Brian is evaluating Arkin as a 2nd year player, from a small school who we drafted as a long term developmental guy. He is the 5th option behind Costa, Kowalski, Nagy, and Bern coming in. Three or so weeks later, he has to play center. In that context, he did pretty well.

Of course, context doesn't win games. Sturm is evaluating Arkin as a guy starting at center for an NFL team. In that context, he sucked.

What does this tell us? Not much. Arkin, in his first try, was not great. That doesn't tell us much. Few guys come in and rock it. I expect you'd find few players with Arkin's background who could come in and do better though.

Me, I see I guy who came in. He battled and got eaten up by better players. He's a year away still but he could contribute here.

Well said. I re-watched the game last night and thought that he had decent luck in pass coverage (save the unabated DT bull rush), but was not much of a contributor to the running game. Perhaps he could learn the position, he looked to be a better snapper than Costa with almost no practice, but he seems to also need more strength conditioning at this point to be marginally effective.

 

[Shinywalrus]

I think it's obvious David was giving up some suddenness and positioning coming out of the snap in order to make the snaps clean. This explains, in my mind, the difference between some camp observations and the game.

In camp, he's being encouraged to develop his full technique as a center, calling out line adjustments where necessary, snapping and immediately transitioning to a blocking posture, even getting some push in the run game. If you've ever snapped a ball (I've only done the occasional long snap, but I can fill in the blanks), the mental transition between the two tasks takes some time to perfect, especially if you're focusing on snapping effectively.

Knowing that he had to get the snaps right to make sure the first team got enough offensive reps, I suspect Arkin gave up a bit on the transition-to-blocking side. Certainly when you saw him in space he seemed much more effective as a blocker.

Still, it's not as though this is going to be a fast process, and that was an ugly game. Best case scenario for this season, we're creating swing man depth behind Costa.

 

[burmafrd]

I think it's obvious David was giving up some suddenness and positioning coming out of the snap in order to make the snaps clean. This explains, in my mind, the difference between some camp observations and the game.

In camp, he's being encouraged to develop his full technique as a center, calling out line adjustments where necessary, snapping and immediately transitioning to a blocking posture, even getting some push in the run game. If you've ever snapped a ball (I've only done the occasional long snap, but I can fill in the blanks), the mental transition between the two tasks takes some time to perfect, especially if you're focusing on snapping effectively.

Knowing that he had to get the snaps right to make sure the first team got enough offensive reps, I suspect Arkin gave up a bit on the transition-to-blocking side. Certainly when you saw him in space he seemed much more effective as a blocker.

Still, it's not as though this is going to be a fast process, and that was an ugly game. Best case scenario for this season, we're creating swing man depth behind Costa.

That is fair. He clearly made it his priority (undoubtedly on orders from the coaches) to make sure the snaps were done right.

To do that with as little experience as he has playing that position you are going to be slow getting out of your stance and blocking.

That is why it takes more than a few weeks of constant practice to learn to play center.

Unlike some here who think that in one camp you can learn the position good enough to be a starter.

 

[jnday]

Well said. I re-watched the game last night and thought that he had decent luck in pass coverage (save the unabated DT bull rush), but was not much of a contributor to the running game. Perhaps he could learn the position, he looked to be a better snapper than Costa with almost no practice, but he seems to also need more strength conditioning at this point to be marginally effective.

This the way I see it. The snaps were not a problem, but he needs to work on his blocking after the snap. Arkin has some upside, and he has improved this year.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

There is really no inconsistencies in these reports. Just how much context is applied.

Brian is evaluating Arkin as a 2nd year player, from a small school who we drafted as a long term developmental guy. He is the 5th option behind Costa, Kowalski, Nagy, and Bern coming in. Three or so weeks later, he has to play center. In that context, he did pretty well.

Of course, context doesn't win games. Sturm is evaluating Arkin as a guy starting at center for an NFL team. In that context, he sucked.

What does this tell us? Not much. Arkin, in his first try, was not great. That doesn't tell us much. Few guys come in and rock it. I expect you'd find few players with Arkin's background who could come in and do better though.

Me, I see I guy who came in. He battled and got eaten up by better players. He's a year away still but he could contribute here.

Kudos to you good Sir.

That is the best objective post that is not dripping with sarcasm that I have seen in some time on here.

Again, Kudos to you good Sir.

:starspin

 

[Doomsday101]

That is fair. He clearly made it his priority (undoubtedly on orders from the coaches) to make sure the snaps were done right.

To do that with as little experience as he has playing that position you are going to be slow getting out of your stance and blocking.

That is why it takes more than a few weeks of constant practice to learn to play center.

Unlike some here who think that in one camp you can learn the position good enough to be a starter.

I'm not sure anyone sees Arkin as a starting Center for this season. I can't say how he will come along at a position that is not his natural position in the future for now he was put into a situation because of the loss of 3 other players (Costa, Kowalski and Nagy) each with some experiance at Center and you also have Bernadeau who has some experiance at the position

Callahan said Bernadeau has a background playing center.

"We'll definitely give him snaps, absolutely," Callahan said. "He's one of the guys; we got three centers that are out in (Bill) Nagy, himself and (Kevin) Kowalski, so absolutely, he'll come back and get some reps there at that spot. We want to get him ready for guard, as well."

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=dallascowboys&id=4694765&wjb

 

[JBond]

This is unpossible.

It goes against everything I have been told on this board. Arkin is terrible. Costa is the worst player in the league. Neither will ever be any thing but trash. We should sign Roy Donaldson and Larry Allen.

Stick to the script.

Just stop...You cannot say with a strait face that our O-line is good. This team has more holes than swiss cheese.

 

[burmafrd]

Just stop...You cannot say with a strait face that our O-line is good. This team has more holes than swiss cheese.

oh yes he can. There are several that think that the O line is no longer important

 

[Doomsday101]

Just stop...You cannot say with a strait face that our O-line is good. This team has more holes than swiss cheese.

And the unit Monday will not be the same to start the season.