Broaddus: Painting A Favorable Picture For Vince Young In Dallas

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DanTanna;5101681 said:
I guess no one was watching VY/6 last year. He has no talent. Orton is an NFL QB, VY isn't.

I won't quite go that far. I think he's merely a flash player, and some people buy into the flash instead of looking at the complete picture.

The complete picture says we shouldn't want him on the team merely for the flash moments he provides. He could flash at the right moment and get us a victory, but he's more likely to not make that play or make a bad play and cost us a victory.
 

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I think there is no problem bringing him in for a look. If he is bad, he won't make it. It's as simple as that.
If he out plays Orton in camp, and VY is as bad as he was in the past, then Orton has no business on the roster.

I'm not for or against him. I think the better man will stick and the other won't. That's what I want.
 

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BHendri5;5101683[B said:
]I cannot understand what these knuckleheads see in VY? They keep talking about things he supposedly did in the NFL, that I never seen him do. I think they are (mis remembering, LOL) things he did in college they are trying to make us think he did it in the NFL.[/B]

I won bets with a best friend another guy and his wife, another guy, and I told my pastor(I did not bet with the pastor) he was a big VY fan, I told them VY was not going to make it in the NFL.

It took 5 yrs his first contract that was the term of the bets, but I won.

VY is Garbage as a QB, he should have listened and switched to receiver.

Then you really didn't watch him a lot, everything he described in the article happened
 

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TwoDeep3;5101647 said:
1. Will it cost the team lots of money to bring him in for a look? NO!

2. Will he make the team better by being the QB of the scout team to project the new scheme the league is embracing, thus allow the team to practice at full speed? YES!

3. If, like Orton, he never reaches the field, what does it matter? DOESN'T!

4. If the back-up is playing because Romo goes down, again, with the expected results, what does it matter if it is Vince Young or Johnny Unitas? DOESN'T, Dallas is sunk then!

Swinging at pitches in the dirt from an emotional standpoint has become the favorite indoor sports for this site.
i wonder if it has to do with protecting romo. i've mentioned people worried about his influence in the locker room/media....i say if the leadership is as good as some claim it to be then it shouldn't be a problem.
 

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DanTanna;5101681 said:
I guess no one was watching VY/6 last year. He has no talent. Orton is an NFL QB, VY isn't.
orton can barely complete a pass in two straight offseasons now.
 

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I saw the Miami era Jimmy Johnson say, 'Just shoot me if I draft another dumb player.' Vince Young hasn't shown much to say he isn't that dumb guy.

Right now he appears to be just another guy whose name fans recognize.
 

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I'm no Orton lover, but we installed a new system and as the OTAs progressed so did he. I would expect Romo to have a rough day or two as camp opens. If Orton struggles as camp goes forward then I'd be concerned.

But VY? Please.

The 3rd QB should be developmental, not retread.
 

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There are a few things to consider with a guy like this. On the field he flashes then splashes. If you put him on the team are you prepared to accept what comes if you have to put him on the field. You must assume a backup is going to not lose games and keep you in them. He's there until your QB comes back. If Romo is lost for the season you don't throw in the towel but you should be ready to change your game plan. Will they ever trust this guy to put and NFL product out there? Will his teammates play for the guy or say OMG and go thru the motions?

Are you prepared to lose a roster spot to this player? Not just on the 53 but on the ?90. If you have no plans to keep him are you going to throw that roster spot out the window? You never know when you find a Church or Walls or Romo and will that be the guy denied a shot?

And finally what does his former coaches and GMs say about the guy? Does he have a problem that makes him relatively radioactive? He's got some talent. Why has he failed in so many places?

I like Idgit's idea of using a former college QB who can run the 'pistol'. But I won't have a hissy if they bring the guy in. For the most part he's unlikely to make the team or bump some guy off that would have been a contributor for us.
 

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Why has he failed in every place?

fify

Ask Philly, Tennessee and Buffalo what they think of Sling Blade VY. I want VY on our opponent's team, not ours.
 

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TwoDeep3;5101647 said:
1. Will it cost the team lots of money to bring him in for a look? NO!

2. Will he make the team better by being the QB of the scout team to project the new scheme the league is embracing, thus allow the team to practice at full speed? YES!

3. If, like Orton, he never reaches the field, what does it matter? DOESN'T!

4. If the back-up is playing because Romo goes down, again, with the expected results, what does it matter if it is Vince Young or Johnny Unitas? DOESN'T, Dallas is sunk then!

Swinging at pitches in the dirt from an emotional standpoint has become the favorite indoor sports for this site.

it does'nt cost much financially but that one roster spot is valuable to me. and why watse it on a guy who has proven time and time again he is not an nfl qb.
 

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I say why not bring him in; the defense can use a pistol QB tackling dummy in TC.
 

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conner01;5101771 said:
it does'nt cost much financially but that one roster spot is valuable to me. and why watse it on a guy who has proven time and time again he is not an nfl qb.
I agree that the extra roster spot is very valuable.

Vince Young would only make sense if they wanted to replace Orton.
 

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xwalker;5101807 said:
I agree that the extra roster spot is very valuable.

Vince Young would only make sense if they wanted to replace Orton.

the only positive i see with signing VY would be that our defense will see a lot of read-option in the next year and we need a legit read-option QB to run it in practice

VY can do that effectively

otherwise, i see no reason to bring him in
 

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Here is what I don't like to hear about Orton. When you read what little we are getting, the problem with Orton is not that he is going to the wrong target or that he is making mental mistakes in the offense. The problem is that he is short arming everything and that he is having accuracy issues. It's the start of the TC. His arm should be as fresh as it's going to be all season. Overthrowing WR, OK, but short arming balls is a totally different problem and it should not be happening now, at this time of the year. That's a problem we should be seeing at the end of training camp, not at the beginning of mini camp guys.

I think there is reason to be concerned here guys. If not VY, then I think we should be considering somebody because this should not be happening right now.
 

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jobberone;5101651 said:
One does wonder what the heck is going on with this guy. I like the idea of him running the scout team when we have a game against a team with a QB like Wash does. There has to be something going on that's not being voiced here or in other threads.

I have to believe that this guy has burned some major bridges in the NFL....

Consider this: Tim Tebow is currently on an NFL roster and Vince Young is not. Something isnt adding up.
 

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He might make a good TE, too bad we are loaded there. Young is pretty much like Tebow without the heart. Both aren't good NFL QBs. Tebow will pretty much do anything to win probably knows he's not really talented enough to play QB at a high NFL level. Vince Young just isn't that type of guy. He was always the most talented player on the field till the NFL.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5101859 said:
Here is what I don't like to hear about Orton. When you read what little we are getting, the problem with Orton is not that he is going to the wrong target or that he is making mental mistakes in the offense. The problem is that he is short arming everything and that he is having accuracy issues. It's the start of the TC. His arm should be as fresh as it's going to be all season. Overthrowing WR, OK, but short arming balls is a totally different problem and it should not be happening now, at this time of the year. That's a problem we should be seeing at the end of training camp, not at the beginning of mini camp guys.

I think there is reason to be concerned here guys. If not VY, then I think we should be considering somebody because this should not be happening right now.
If Orton can't do the job of the #2 QB, then that would completely change the question. If they are looking for a #2 QB, then VY might be a good option; however, he just does not make sense as a #3 QB. If you use the valuable resource of an extra roster spot carrying 3 QBs, then 1 of them should be a young developmental type.
 

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xwalker;5101934 said:
If Orton can't do the job of the #2 QB, then that would completely change the question. If they are looking for a #2 QB, then VY might be a good option; however, he just does not make sense as a #3 QB. If you use the valuable resource of an extra roster spot carrying 3 QBs, then 1 of them should be a young developmental type.

Exactly, the only reason you might bring in VY is as insurance IMO. We will need at least 4 QBs for camp so it doesn't hurt to bring him in either way. If Orton continues to experience issues, then you probably release Orton and keep Young if you decide to bring in Young.
 
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