Brock Purdy's potential contract vs Dak's contract

[cowboyed]

We have lost an inordinate amount of key players to injury throughout most of this regular season so you can't place the blame the crash and burn thus far solely on Dak. It's our upper management who simply have been at a loss building and maintaining a quality backup player roster for decades now.

Dak has proved even with a solid or better team he still isn't a post season calibre or an elite starting quarterback - most definitely not worth an obscene $60 million per year or around 3 and half million per regular season game. He can play outstanding at times but just isn't consistent or talented enough to excel particularly in the post season.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

What was Romo's leverage? Simply curious to hear your take.

I'm not sure what you are asking, but if I remember correctly, each of Romo's contracts was team-friendly. So I'm not sure he ever needed leverage because there was never a question about his starting/leadership until he lost his job to Dak. Jerry and Stephen structured all their quarterbacks' contracts like a line credit, where they borrow and kick the balance down the road until the end of the player's career and that's fine as long as the player is playing at a high level. My point is.....Dak's leverages were his NTC, NFT and the $59M cap hit and he used it to force Jerry's hand, pay me what I want or I'm walking. If you remember there was never a question of Romo leaving the Cowboys. In fact, Romo's last two extensions got little or no PR or press. We read/heard it as done the day after signing........

 

[Hawkeye0202]

He was tough but not a quality QB.

True but he was smart.........as he once put it, he had the best defense and offensive playmakers around him. His job was to minimize mistakes and not screw up.

 

[Cmac]

I'm not sure what you are asking, but if I remember correctly, each of Romo's contracts was team-friendly. So I'm not sure he ever needed leverage because there was never a question about his starting/leadership until he lost his job to Dak. Jerry and Stephen structured all their quarterbacks' contracts like a line credit, where they borrow and kick the balance down the road until the end of the player's career and that's fine as long as the player is playing at a high level. My point is.....Dak's leverages were his NTC, NFT and the $59M cap hit and he used it to force Jerry's hand, pay me what I want or I'm walking. If you remember there was never a question of Romo leaving the Cowboys. In fact, Romo's last two extensions got little or no PR or press. We read/heard it as done the day after signing........

Dak got franchised tagged and any player has a right to play their own hand, when the time comes. Jerry didn't have to budge and Dak has never threatened to leave in the public. What would he be expected to do if Jerry chose to not re-sign....move on.
Romo leadership?.....Huh? Miss me with that one. $108 million (market value at the time) was never questioned and not like Dak's by a landslide on this board.

Also, as far as leadership.....the very same question asked of Dak........who did Romo elevate, outside of BFF Witten's numbers?
I liked Romo, as I hoped for success from him, just as I do for Dak now.......but we know the board rarely notes the similarities of the two and prefers different narratives. I call it CRT (Critical Romo Theory).

 

[CowboyoWales]

Thanks for the the name correction. My point is this. People always bring up a quarterback's playoff/Superbowl appearance or victories as if the quarterbacks don't have 52 other players, a front office and a coaching staff that helps to get them there.


No matter what stats Dilfer had or didn't have, he was the quarterback of a Superbowl winning team. Every quarterback who has ever won a Superbowl didn't all have All-Pro performances in the playoffs
and Superbowls..... yet they are given credit for leading their team to those victories because of the quarterback posposit

I think you'll find that pretty much every QB winning QB has had to carry the team somewhere along the play-off run.....that's tge nature of the game playing better teams.
With Dak, there's a repetitive inability to raise his game.....yep certainly pick on the JAG DT's, or O-Line, but it's the QB with the ball in his hands on every offensive play....with that amount of CAP allocation you just expect him to personally rise to the challenge rather than sit with the Deer in Headlight's pose.

 

[CATCH17]

San Fran would be wise to sign Daniel Jones and let Purdy walk.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Dak got franchised tagged and any player has a right to play their own hand, when the time comes. Jerry didn't have to budge and Dak has never threatened to leave in the public. What would he be expected to do if Jerry chose to not re-sign....move on.
Romo leadership?.....Huh? Miss me with that one. $108 million (market value at the time) was never questioned and not like Dak's by a landslide on this board.

Also, as far as leadership.....the very same question asked of Dak........who did Romo elevate, outside of BFF Witten's numbers?
I liked Romo, as I hoped for success from him, just as I do for Dak now.......but we know the board rarely notes the similarities of the two and prefers different narratives. I call it CRT (Critical Romo Theory).

Both overpaid at inapportune times. The same issue that debit us with Romo....his dead money preventing CAP being allocated to needed areas.....is now going to be repeated with Dak (if he plays, or if we draft a QB in the next two years).

 

[Cmac]

Both overpaid at inapportune times. The same issue that debit us with Romo....his dead money preventing CAP being allocated to needed areas.....is now going to be repeated with Dak (if he plays, or if we draft a QB in the next two years).

Can't dispute it CowboyoWales........I'd say Jerry/FO have trouble in key areas.....draft/scout.....player development....free agency,........and salary cap management. There's your problems.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Interested to see if the 9ers sign him this offseason or wait another year.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Can't dispute it CowboyoWales........I'd say Jerry/FO have trouble in key areas.....draft/scout.....player development....free agency,........and salary cap management. There's your problems.

Why, oh why, Jerry did you compound matters by making your weapon/protection needing QB the most expensive player in the league.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

When Brock Purdy does set the QB market, what excuses are the Dak critics going to come up with?

What do you mean "excuses"

What "excuses" are Dak critics ever saying? It's the Dak Fan Club that has to make excuses (We haven't won anything BECAUSE.... or, Dak throws lots of INTs in the playoffs BECAUSE...)

Dak critics don't have to make excuses. They have COMPLAINTS...but not excuses.

"The Cowboys under Dak has never had playoff success" isn't an excuse...it's a historical fact.

If the Cowboys were to make it to the SB under Dak (HA HA HA), THEN perhaps the Dak critics could make excuses (We got to the SB, but Dak had nothing to do with it)

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

I can't wait for the 9ers to break the bank on Purdy....then they'll lose that huge advantage they've enjoyed the last few years of being able to field a good team while ur QB isn't sucking up a large cap %.

Very hard for a team to do have a stacked roster AFTER they do the mega contract.

Bills, Chiefs, Eagles have been able to stay strong after breaking the bank for the QB....but look at Cincy. And just watch our roster in the coming years.

I predict they'll be closer to us: failure.

 

[Cmac]

Why, oh why, Jerry did you compound matters by making your weapon/protection needing QB the most expensive player in the league.

That's the mistake CowboyoWales.....you're looking at Dak. There was an option....sign or let Dak go. Instead, there was hope for Lance to mystically ascend to a starting QB, all pre-season that failed. Dak got disrespected and the Lance experiment failed, thus the late signing of Dak. Not Dak's fault. Add the late Cee Dee signing.

Our FO is atrocious for doing such as we can't compete with other NFL teams in the areas, I mentioned......draft/scouting (talent evaluation) .....player development......free agency......and salary cap management. Not Dak's fault. I hope you saw all that. A bit much to take in, and certainly cloudy if you just want to single out Dak. It's right in front of you. The Jones have hoodwinked many. Great marketers, but lousy football operations managers.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

The Purdy contract is the most interesting story in the NFL at the moment for me because it is going to directly hit one of the main negative issues with the current NFL - QB salary hyper-inflation.

Brock Purdy is not an elite QB. He is CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY heavily dependent on the talent around him and when surrounded by talent, on both sides of the ball, he can be very successful.

He’s not Mahomes and is no where near Mahomes.

He's not Josh Allen, either…

Or Lamar Jackson…

He’s not elite, or the level just below elite, and he never will be.

He’s the type of QB that you used to be able to build a championship roster around because the QB market at that time wasn’t so hyper-inflated that you had to grossly over pay a mid-tier QB like Brock Purdy and could subsequently keep high end talent throughout the rest of the roster and field a complete team accordingly.

Nowadays, signing QBs like Purdy to market setting deals generally sets teams back, if not in the long term, definitely in the short term because you have to cut bait with other high priced, high level talent at their positions on the roster to over pay the mid-tier QB. Obviously, this type of transaction is going to make you worse as a team, and not better, most of the time. Teams that manage to overpay their mid-tier QBs and still field competitive, championship caliber teams also happen to be aggressive in free agency, while having GMs that massage and manage cap space as efficient as possible. Most teams don’t have that, which is one reason why they aren’t aggressive in free agency, and we certainly don’t given the two cheap morons that are the face of our front office.

So…

I very much want this QB salary bubble to burst, or at least significantly deflate, and Purdy’s contract negotiations could be a spur for that. Maybe Purdy has a humble perspective relative to a market setting contract and how it will affect the roster around him and will take less money in order to keep major talent on the team. Maybe that starts the deflation of this bubble.

We knew without a doubt Dak wasn’t self aware enough to to do that, not that it matters because of who he works for. In a sense, I’m perfectly fine with Dak taking Jerry to the cleaners because Jerry wouldn’t take any discount Dak gave him and use it properly anyway. If you get drafted by Dallas, and I’m just speaking as a realist here, the culture is so rotten that you really should prioritize making money hand over first over anything else because you sure aren’t winning any titles. On other teams a championship mindset is endemic to the environment. Here? It’s all about hype over substance.

 

[Creeper]

I do not believe Purdy will get $60 million. How are the 49ers doing this year with all their injuries? Not so great. Purdy is an upgrade over a game manager but he is not in the same realm as the top QBs in the league. Neither is Dak. But just because Jerry Jones is a moron when it comes to contracts does not mean everyone in the league is equally stupid.

 

[Big_D]

Dak got franchised tagged and any player has a right to play their own hand, when the time comes. Jerry didn't have to budge and Dak has never threatened to leave in the public. What would he be expected to do if Jerry chose to not re-sign....move on.
Romo leadership?.....Huh? Miss me with that one. $108 million (market value at the time) was never questioned and not like Dak's by a landslide on this board.

Also, as far as leadership.....the very same question asked of Dak........who did Romo elevate, outside of BFF Witten's numbers?
I liked Romo, as I hoped for success from him, just as I do for Dak now.......but we know the board rarely notes the similarities of the two and prefers different narratives. I call it CRT (Critical Romo Theory).

Laurent Robinson, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton and you can add Dez since he basically disappeared once Dak got here.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

I do not believe Purdy will get $60 million. How are the 49ers doing this year with all their injuries? Not so great. Purdy is an upgrade over a game manager but he is not in the same realm as the top QBs in the league. Neither is Dak. But just because Jerry Jones is a moron when it comes to contracts does not mean everyone in the league is equally stupid.

It’s not just Jerry, though I agree, he IS a moron as a GM. Every team in the league overpays their non-elite, mid-tier QBs to market setting, or close to market setting, deals, especially on second contracts. I hope the Niners are the first team to derail this nonsense.

 

[Cmac]

Laurent Robinson, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton and you can add Dez since he basically disappeared once Dak got here.

What's your point Big_D? Trying to understand to respond in kind.

 

[America's Cowboy]

What do you mean "excuses"

What "excuses" are Dak critics ever saying? It's the Dak Fan Club that has to make excuses (We haven't won anything BECAUSE.... or, Dak throws lots of INTs in the playoffs BECAUSE...)

Dak critics don't have to make excuses. They have COMPLAINTS...but not excuses.

"The Cowboys under Dak has never had playoff success" isn't an excuse...it's a historical fact.

If the Cowboys were to make it to the SB under Dak (HA HA HA), THEN perhaps the Dak critics could make excuses (We got to the SB, but Dak had nothing to do with it)

Y'all are full of excuses. Every single week. Y'all get proven wrong. You have a ish storm. Then the excuses come out.

 

[CowboyoWales]

That's the mistake CowboyoWales.....you're looking at Dak. There was an option....sign or let Dak go. Instead, there was hope for Lance to mystically ascend to a starting QB, all pre-season that failed. Dak got disrespected and the Lance experiment failed, thus the late signing of Dak. Not Dak's fault. Add the late Cee Dee signing.

Our FO is atrocious for doing such as we can't compete with other NFL teams in the areas, I mentioned......draft/scouting (talent evaluation) .....player development......free agency......and salary cap management. Not Dak's fault. I hope you saw all that. A bit much to take in, and certainly cloudy if you just want to single out Dak. It's right in front of you. The Jones have hoodwinked many. Great marketers, but lousy football operations managers.

Nah, it's a clear issue of Jerry making his usual mess.....in this instance Dak. They deserve one another, star quality, unfortunately more so off the field, than on. You're the one supporting what Jerry did???