Broncos trying to deal Warren

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Broncos trying to deal Warren
By Mike Klis and Bill Williamson
Denver Post Staff Writers
Article Last Updated: 08/12/2007 11:56:59 PM MDT


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Team unity top task for Broncos this seasonMass appeals to BroncosSan Francisco - Broncos defensive tackle Gerard Warren did not make the trip to San Francisco on Sunday as the team attempts to trade him.

Two NFL sources confirmed Warren, who started the past two seasons for the Broncos, is on the trading block. The Broncos would pick up part of his salary, which was trimmed during the offseason. Warren, who had 51 tackles and 2 1/2 sacks last season, became expendable because he is not considered a good fit for Jim Bates' system where tackles are to primarily leverage their position and hold the point. Warren is a tackle who can penetrate the backfield.

Should Warren be traded, Jimmy Kennedy would start alongside Sam Adams at defensive tackle. Veteran Alvin McKinley and rookie Marcus Thomas would also move up the depth chart.

Warren has been bothered by a turf toe injury that hindered him last season. However, sources confirmed health was not the reason he did not make the trip.

He likely will be traded within the week for a future draft pick.

Miami and Indianapolis are among the teams who are in need of a proven defensive tackle.
 

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We practice with Denver this week.......could be an opportunity for a cheap (7th rd) trade.....maybe he could backup our NT position
 

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dargonking999;1586838 said:
So we're suppose to trade for another teams trash?

no thanks i'll keep ours.

He's much better than what we have behing Ferguson. He's on the right side of 30 and could rotate with Fergy keeping both fresh throughout the game. If they would take a 5th or 6th, I'd do it in a second!!!!!
 

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I know little to nothing about him can he play a NT in a 3-4? is he better than what we got behind Fergie? will it be reasonably affordable?
 

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Zaxor;1586841 said:
I know little to nothing about him can he play a NT in a 3-4? is he better than what we got behind Fergie? will it be reasonably affordable?


He played in a 4-3 in Cleveland; a 4-3 in Denver.

I have no clue if he can play in a 3-4.

Secondly, Ratliff will be rotated with Ferguson again this season. And my guess is Stanley/Ola/Bowen/Ayodele will also be used (depending upon who is kept).

In addition, Spears probably could play some (or Ireland alluded to it previously).

It will be a more 'by committee' approach, especially if Ratliff gets some reps at DE.

But if Warren that big of an upgrade over what we've got? I don't think so (especially with Ratliff).

And lastly, what's his salary? Is it worth forking that much over and a draft pick for him?
 

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Zaxor;1586841 said:
I know little to nothing about him can he play a NT in a 3-4? is he better than what we got behind Fergie? will it be reasonably affordable?

The coaches may get a chance to evaluate that if he comes with Denver to scrimmage and then play in the pre-season game against Dallas. Maybe teams can just wait until the Broncos cut him if they can't trade him.
 

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I'd trade a 6th for him, no doubt about it. I really like Ratliff as well, but I would much rather see him utilized at DE. Warren would be effective in 4 down spots too as a rush DT. There is not a guy in the Bowen, Ayodele, Stanley, etc, group that does much for me. Ireland mentioned in an interview that back up DT was a spot of need...or at least a position he would like to strengthen.
 

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There is a reason Cleveland got rid of him and Denver wants to get rid of him......he sucks.
 

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carphalen5150;1586874 said:
I'd trade a 6th for him, no doubt about it. I really like Ratliff as well, but I would much rather see him utilized at DE. Warren would be effective in 4 down spots too as a rush DT. There is not a guy in the Bowen, Ayodele, Stanley, etc, group that does much for me. Ireland mentioned in an interview that back up DT was a spot of need...or at least a position he would like to strengthen.

Dallas may be able to find that backup by waiting until the NFL clubs start making their final cuts.
 

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dargonking999;1586838 said:
So we're suppose to trade for another teams trash?

no thanks i'll keep ours.

I think you're confused. This guy could be a very nice fit for a backup NT in our 3-4. They guy is under 30 years old and is 6'4 325lbs and knows how to get to the QB as a defensive tackle recording in excess of 5 sacks twice in his seven years. He is also very good against the run. It appears that Denver doesn't believe he fits their defensive style, but I think he would fit nicely in ours. They seem to want a DT like Ferguson, whom it would take three bulldozers to move out of the middle. Of course, Ferguson isn't going anywhere.
 

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Yeagermeister;1586878 said:
There is a reason Cleveland got rid of him and Denver wants to get rid of him......he sucks.
Feh! Does he suck less that what we have though? Ask yourself that. Do it. Seriously.
 

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Yeagermeister;1586878 said:
There is a reason Cleveland got rid of him and Denver wants to get rid of him......he sucks.

Nah, I don't think he does at all. Cleveland got rid of him for the same reason they got rid of all the ex-Cowboys. They wanted to start over. Denver hired Jim Bates in Jan. and he has his own idea of what he wants out of the defense.
 

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Doomsday101;1586881 said:
Dallas may be able to find that backup by waiting until the NFL clubs start making their final cuts.
True...

I am not jumping up and down for Warren...I could care less if he comes here, I just know he is better than what we have right now.
 

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carphalen5150;1586890 said:
True...

I am not jumping up and down for Warren...I could care less if he comes here, I just know he is better than what we have right now.

I agree. I think when is all is said and done Dallas will look outside for a backup at NT.
 

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Some people here seem to be overlooking that he's never played a 3-4 NT in the pros. It would be good to get some opinions on how versatile this guy is and if he has the size to make the nose work before going all doe-eyed over him.

jmo...
 

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zeromaster;1586908 said:
Some people here seem to be overlooking that he's never played a 3-4 NT in the pros. It would be good to get some opinions on how versatile this guy is and if he has the size to make the nose work before going all doe-eyed over him.

jmo...

Stop bringing facts in to this thread :D
 

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Yeagermeister;1586878 said:
There is a reason Cleveland got rid of him and Denver wants to get rid of him......he sucks.

No, given where he was drafted he's a failure. But he doesn't suck, he's actually a decent but not great DT. If he were some 7th round draft pick people would be really excited about maybe bringing him him. Clearly, players who suck don't stay in the league this long as starters.
 

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abersonc;1586916 said:
No, given where he was drafted he's a failure. But he doesn't suck, he's actually a decent but not great DT. If he were some 7th round draft pick people would be really excited about maybe bringing him him. Clearly, players who suck don't stay in the league this long as starters.

Actually, he has dominate talent but unfortunately it comes with a poor attitude and work ethic.

I thought for a 7th rd pk, he could be worth the risk to turn his career around while he is still young. He will not get many more chances as this will be strike three and well, we all know what happens on the 3rd strike call! :cool:
 
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