Browns OT Kevin Shaffer released

[AKATheRake]

Thought it was a 4 year deal....

On March 9, 2007, Colombo was re-signed by the Cowboys to a two year contract worth $7 million with a $4 million dollar signing bonus.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Colombo#cite_note-0
On December 25, 2008, Columbo finalized a contract extension worth $22 million, with $11.5 million guaranteed, through the 2012 season.

Now it's goes to $11.5 million guaranteed if he stays healthy, if not it's 8 million and the 2012 season is where it is mostly back loaded. If things go backwards with his health, since he has been playing with really bad knees the last 2 seasons, then he's really got till 2011 which is 2 years left from the end of this season.

There are a lot of health provisions in his contract because of his injury history. That's why he wasn't getting much action from other teams. He's been solid and I really like Colombo, think he really panned out since we got him off the scrap heap but things can go backwords with his health very easily.

 

[JonCJG]

Tebow is going to be a good h-back in the nfl.

 

[BigDFan5]

Really?

There are at least 5 back-up positions on the o-line. But if we sign one guy who just reached turned 29 (retirement age around here, apparently), somehow we are going to stunt the development of young players? Is there only 1 backup o-lineman position? Or maybe, just maybe, the idea of using one back-up tackle position on someone who can help for the next 6 years while using the other on a 19 year old development player is a possibility? You think?

or maybe and lets think outside the box here, we arent going to cut all our current backup linemen. So you add 1 or 2 in the draft and you have Holland, Free, McQ thats 5 right there just backups.

So could we add this guy? Sure its possible but to say wanting to get younger backups to develop to be starters is bad? I dont think so.

BTW he never said he was to old

 

[AKATheRake]

or maybe and lets think outside the box here, we arent going to cut all our current backup linemen. So you add 1 or 2 in the draft and you have Holland, Free, McQ thats 5 right there just backups.

So could we add this guy? Sure its possible but to say wanting to get younger backups to develop to be starters is bad? I dont think so.

BTW he never said he was to old

Cobra never said it was a problem getting younger backups. Actually said could draft one while possibly signing this vet so that they can compete with the other backups.

Vintage did say he didn't want Schaffer originally because of his age. I think Parcells tried to gt this guy a few years ago when he was available but Cleveland got him signed up and promised a starting spot.

 

[BigDFan5]

Why? He's not going to beat out Colombo. Why bring in a 29 year old backup?

I'd rather draft and try to develop a guy for the future.

Of course, we'll likely screw that up and draft another Marten/Free.

So....

Cobra never said it was a problem getting younger backups. Actually said could draft one while possibly signing this vet so that they can compete with the other backups.

Vintage did say he didn't want Schaffer originally because of his age. I think Parcells tried to gt this guy a few years ago when he was available but Cleveland got him signed up and promised a starting spot.

I am just not seeing Vintage mention age in that post

He mentions getting developing guys for the future, not that Shaffer is old


I remember Parcells going after him as well

 

[TheCount]

When the season begins,
Adams will be 34
Kosier will be 30
Gurode will be 31
Davis will be 30
Colombo will 30

And one of them will be hurt at some point this season.

Schaffer will be 29 (he was 28 ten days ago). He could step in for Flozell if he gets hurt (or next year if Floz struggles this year). Or if one of the interior guys was hurt, we'd have the flexibility to move a T inside.

It would not prevent the development of younger players to have him. Free, McQ and Marten can still compete for a roster spot.

Schaffer may be too expensive or may be demanding to start. And if that's the case, then yeah, it's a bad idea.

But it's dumber than a box of hammers to oppose it because of the guy's age.

30 is like the prime years for offensive linemen just like late 20's to early 30's are the prime years for CB's. As a matter of fact, the only position where 30 is considered old is WR and HB. More so for HB than WR even.

Flo is the only one really pushing it.

 

[InDakWeTrust]

I said nothing about trading draft picks. This isn't about trading draft picks.

This is about putting your nose in the air because a free agent is 29 whopping years old.



Uhh, no. And I have no idea what your point is with that. Again, this is about you saying there is something negative about signing a guy who just turned 29 years old ten days ago as if there is a problem with him being too old. Haynesworth has nothing to do with that.



Which is still possible if we sign Schaffer. You seem to think that we can only do one thing per off-season to address the line and signing the ancient Schaffer would foreclose drafting players.

One might suggest that we approach the situation like this:

There are 2-3 backup tackle roster positions (3 if the 3rd guy can play inside). Bring in Schaffer, draft a Tackle, and let the 2 of them compete with Free, Marten and McQ for the positions. Schaffer would be your backup that you are relying on, the other would be the guy you are developing and hope to not have to rely on right now.

You seem to be suggesting that the two back up roles need to be, at all times, filled with 24 year olds in some sort of perpetual loop of rookie contracts.

But again, I have no complaint with anyone who is against looking at him because he wants to start or wants too much money.

I'm just saying your age point is STUPID!

Bah! don't waste your time trying to get through to Vintage. His mancrush on Tebow has seeped into the rest of his brain.

It will be funny when some team like the Texans or Bears draft him and he is stuck as a backup like Matt Leinhart, except Tebow actually isn't quite up to the celebrity level yet. Vintage will be on the TMZ forum more than here.

Marten was cut last TC and is on the Raiders IIRC.

Shaffer is a good swing tackle who will probably be too costly to obtain for us. I could see a team like the Eagles or Commanders going after him. Shaffer would probably take time away from Free or whoever is drafted at OT. I believe in versatility at OL, and he brings that, but drafting players in the second day, you need to balance the worth of bringing in a guy who may be okay at several positions vs. a guy who can play good at one position on the line.

 

[AbeBeta]

hmmmm, I've always liked him

29 years old

I do too Summer/Bob/iRoot

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I am just not seeing Vintage mention age in that post

He mentions getting developing guys for the future, not that Shaffer is old


I remember Parcells going after him as well

are you Vintage's father or something?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

So wait.....



Are you implying that a 29 year old player is "old"? He turned 29 ten days ago. That means 11 days ago, he was 28 years old.


Christ, this is getting ridiculous. Seems like you people want 24 year Pro Bowlers at every position with 18 year olds backing them up.

He's younger than Motrae Holland who we picked up last year. He's younger than Tony Romo, and I would laugh if you told me he was old. He's still on the up-start part of his career. And OL play A LONG TIME.

Agreed. I would have no issue with a quality 29 year old backup.

 

[JonCJG]

Adding quality depth, at such an important position, with a guy who is only 29 years old would be fine by me as well.

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

yes to Shafer he would be a quality backup and could fill in at guard if need be.

 

[AKATheRake]

yes to Shafer he would be a quality backup and could fill in at guard if need be.

 

[Apollo Creed]

yes to Shafer he would be a quality backup and could fill in at guard if need be.

The way Andre Smith is falling we'll probably have a shot at him at 51.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

So wait.....



Are you implying that a 29 year old player is "old"? He turned 29 ten days ago. That means 11 days ago, he was 28 years old.


Christ, this is getting ridiculous. Seems like you people want 24 year Pro Bowlers at every position with 18 year olds backing them up.

He's younger than Motrae Holland who we picked up last year. He's younger than Tony Romo, and I would laugh if you told me he was old. He's still on the up-start part of his career. And OL play A LONG TIME.

Amen. I've seen a lot of this BS about our O-line being old recently. And now a (barely) 29-year-old tackle is old?

I don't want the guy, btw; I just don't get this particular meme.

 

[BigDFan5]

are you Vintage's father or something?

Only you can call me daddy summer

 

[Vintage]

Bah! don't waste your time trying to get through to Vintage. His mancrush on Tebow has seeped into the rest of his brain.

It will be funny when some team like the Texans or Bears draft him and he is stuck as a backup like Matt Leinhart, except Tebow actually isn't quite up to the celebrity level yet. Vintage will be on the TMZ forum more than here.

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Quoted for lack of truth.

I lul'd.

BigDFan5, hope you caught this post too....

 

[BigDFan5]

Quoted for lack of truth.

I lul'd.

BigDFan5, hope you caught this post too....

Oh I saw it I giggled like a schoolgirl

 

[Clove]

So wait.....



Are you implying that a 29 year old player is "old"? He turned 29 ten days ago. That means 11 days ago, he was 28 years old.


Christ, this is getting ridiculous. Seems like you people want 24 year Pro Bowlers at every position with 18 year olds backing them up.

He's younger than Motrae Holland who we picked up last year. He's younger than Tony Romo, and I would laugh if you told me he was old. He's still on the up-start part of his career. And OL play A LONG TIME.

Oline guys can play forever, unfortunately, we have 2 average tackles and this needs to be addressed in rounds 2-4. Yeah I said it, we need a minimum of 3 Oline men in this draft.

If you ever want to control the clock and keep Romo's jersey clean, you'd better bring in some hungry youngsters vs some busted up def false-starting machine, and some stone-legged stiff on the other side.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oline guys can play forever, unfortunately, we have 2 average tackles and this needs to be addressed in rounds 2-4. Yeah I said it, we need a minimum of 3 Oline men in this draft.

If you ever want to control the clock and keep Romo's jersey clean, you'd better bring in some hungry youngsters vs some busted up def false-starting machine, and some stone-legged stiff on the other side.

Year before last Flo was playing at an all pro level. He had three severe injuries yet still played 16 games. The man can still play and showed he is a a man last year. Only idiots think that someone playing through pain like that is a bad thing.