Brown's QB looked tentative, indecisive and inaccurate in offseason practices Tuesday

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from the Akron Beacon Journal:
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/football/nfl/cleveland_browns/

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Call it an education for Brady Quinn, the second of the team’s first-round draft picks. Each quarterback got two sets of three plays, and Quinn needed more. Hard to remember a good throw. It’s not easy going into a new system with new teammates on the first practice, but Quinn spent extra time on the field after the practice for a reason. He looked tentative, indecisive and inaccurate. And yes, it was just the first practice.

Frye wasn’t a lot better. His “marching orders” this offseason call for fewer forced throws and fewer turnovers, but he threw three interceptions in six passes.

The best quarterback that one day? Derek Anderson. Don’t ignore him in the quarterback derby.
 

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Let's face it: Brady Quinn is just a rookie
By Terry Pluto
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/football/nfl/cleveland_browns/17194388.htm

After two days of watching Brady Quinn throw passes into the wind, with the wind, on target and way off target, here's what we know: He's a rookie quarterback.

Here's what else we know: The NFL is an unforgiving place for rookie quarterbacks.

Here's the good news: The Notre Dame star impressed the Browns by showing that some of the hype from Irish coach Charlie Weis is right. The kid is well-prepared for the pros.

``He's mentally sharp, he picks up things easily, the coaches enjoy him,'' Browns General Manager Phil Savage said. ``You can train him. He's a good student. He's in a unique situation, because he started for four years at Notre Dame and played the last two for a pro coach. That really helps.''

It doesn't make Quinn the opening-day starter.

Romeo Crennel said what most coaches do: The edge goes to Charlie Frye, the veteran with 18 starts. Derek Anderson is somewhere in the mix, having started three games in two NFL seasons. Then, there's Quinn.

How about bringing in a veteran quarterback?

``Right now, I don't see that happening,'' Savage said. ``I think it's time to move forward with the guys we have at quarterback.''

Savage mentioned that new offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski has an appreciation of Ken Dorsey, ``who was 35-1 for Chud when they were together at (the University of) Miami.'' Dorsey (10 career pro starts) is not going to start, but Savage said he does bring a veteran's knowledge and approach to the team.

Savage is far from endorsing Quinn as an opening-day starter, but he also won't rule it out.

``By the end of minicamp and heading into veterans camp, we at least want to be down to our top two,'' Savage said. ``If one emerges by veterans camp, then we'll go with him.''

As for Quinn?

``It's tough to start from Day One because of the speed of the game and everything else involved,'' Savage said. ``He doesn't move quite as well as Charlie (Frye), but he can move around in the pocket. He is fluid and polished. You can't expect him to start (Day One), but his background does give him a chance.''

Some history is in order. The following quarterbacks did not start a game as a rookie: Chad Pennington, Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, Daunte Culpepper, Brett Favre and Tom Brady.

Super Bowl quarterback Steve McNair started six games in his first two years. Donovan McNabb had six starts as a rookie; Michael Vick had two.

Among active quarterbacks, I found only two who started all 16 games as a rookie: Peyton Manning and David Carr. Truly mixed result.

Other recent rookies receiving significant starts: Tim Couch (14), Kerry Collins (13), Ben Roethlisberger (13), Vince Young (13), Joey Harrington (12), Matt Leinart (11) and Kyle Boller (nine).

Rushing rookies into action rarely seems to work. Is it because they usually are high-profile players on bad teams, as was the case with Couch, Harrington and Carr? That often means any quarterback would struggle playing behind a poor line, and often playing from behind because of a shaky defense.

It's the worst circumstances for a young quarterback.

Or are the guys just not good enough?

Roethlisberger started 13 times as a rookie for a Pittsburgh Steelers team that went 15-1. How would he have fared with the 2004 Browns instead of the 2004 Steelers?

You don't know.

In most cases, teams playing a rookie quarterback lose, and the quarterback is beaten up physically and mentally. His confidence is shaken, doubts rise among the fans and the organization.

A year ago, the Browns gave the job to Frye with the motto of ``preserving, protecting and promoting'' the kid from the University of Akron. That was not exactly a successful mission.

So what should the Browns do?

At least start the season with Frye and give Quinn time to watch and learn. That never hurts a rookie quarterback.
 

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Quinn will be the same girly QB in three years that he is now. The only difference, everyone will know, and he'll be on the bench
 

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This poor kid is going to come under so much unwarranted scrutiny.

He is a rookie. Let him learn the game and get off his back, just like with russel and leinart etc...

The media has created this crazy attitude and then espn took it to the highest level with their complete nonsense. Hopefully parcells and keyshawn will be more level headed on espn, and we can have a watchable show again without irvin and jaworski out eagling and cowboying each other and everyone else to death.

Although I get the feeling keyshawn is going to be very deragatory to our team, but thats ok.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1510127 said:
Quinn will be a legit pro bowler in 3 years, not an alternate due to injury

What do you base this on? I am not calling you out, but I am curious. I haven't seen anything from Quinn that would make me think that he was pro bowl material. I personally think that Quinn will be a lot like Kerry Collins without the big arm. I think he will be a serviceable QB, but never a truly great one.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1510127 said:
Quinn will be a legit pro bowler in 3 years, not an alternate due to injury

You sig says you wanted Jerry to draft Spencer....but you wanted Quinn?



Secondly, what are the Power Ball numbers? I need to know, and since you know the future, maybe you can lend a hand...?

I'll split the money with you.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1510127 said:
Quinn will be a legit pro bowler in 3 years, not an alternate due to injury

Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Peyton Manning
Phillip Rivers

Im having a hard time figuring out who he could possibly bump to make it.....
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1510127 said:
Quinn will be a legit pro bowler in 3 years, not an alternate due to injury
Why take a cheap shot at Romo? I see no reason for it, it isn't like Romo was drafting. Only time will tell, no one, including you know where Quinn will be in three years.
 

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Quinn's gonna be a good QB. Heck he ran a pro-style offense in college, I'm sure he'll pick up the Brown's 3 ring circus off. fairly soon.

:laugh2:
 

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quinn will be servicable for the Browns...just not this year so we get McFadden
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1510127 said:
Quinn will be a legit pro bowler in 3 years, not an alternate due to injury
That is just simply not going to happen. Honestly I can't imagine any circumstance in which that could possibly happen.
 

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Thehoofbite;1510137 said:
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Peyton Manning
Phillip Rivers

Im having a hard time figuring out who he could possibly bump to make it.....


Throw in th man love people have for Big Ben and the crazy talent of VY and Quinn will be luck if he ever makes a PB. Not to mention Russell.
 

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In team drills, quarterbacks got two sets of three plays, and Frye threw three interceptions and Quinn two.

Few of Quinn's throws were good ones, as he scattered the ball all over the field in his first experience with the veterans and a new offense.

"The first days are not very pretty most of the time. And so that was the case (Tuesday),'' Crennel said. "We were not as sharp as we need to be, but I told them this morning that we were going to throw a lot at them, and they were expected to keep up.''

It's May, so there's a lot of time to learn the offense of new coordinator Rob Chudzinski. Too, Frye and Quinn spent a considerable amount of extra time making throws after the practice had ended.

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Wow. 5 INTs between the two QBs in 12 plays. I heart Brady Quinn. Viva la primera seleccion!!!!
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1510127 said:
Quinn will be a legit pro bowler in 3 years, not an alternate due to injury

Some good QBs in the AFC

Manning
Brady
Palmer
Rivers
Rothlisberger


Then u have .....

Young
Cutler
Russell

Then Quinn.....
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1510145 said:
Quinn's gonna be a good QB. Heck he ran a pro-style offense in college, I'm sure he'll pick up the Brown's 3 ring circus off. fairly soon.

:laugh2:

even if he picks up thier Offense whose to say it's any good anyway....
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1510127 said:
Quinn will be a legit pro bowler in 3 years, not an alternate due to injury

If this was supposed to insult romo its kind of dumb since he was voted into the game, and was not an alternate that made it because of injury
 
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