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[Rampage]

minus the big hits from Delmas, we would have a questionable tackling tandem back there for sure

and I'm not comfortable with the fact that the middle of the field has some shoring up to do, and both Hamlin and Delmas are center-fielder types, that are more effective hanging around in the deep secondary

whoever we draft at safety unless he looks like the next Ed Reed in TC and preseason he won't be starting anyways.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

whoever we draft at safety unless he looks like the next Ed Reed in TC and preseason he won't be starting anyways.

even more reason to pass on the Delmas

 

[Rampage]

even more reason to pass on the Delmas

why do you say that?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

why do you say that?

better value could be had later for a part-time player

QUEENS!

 

[Rampage]

better value could be had later for a part-time player

QUEENS!

but he could take Sensabaugh's job sometime during the season or next season. we have to address the position with either him or Johnson imo.

Aces!

 

[28 Joker]

I don't like Robinson either

if Gurode is to remain at C, we need to keep a player at LG who can help with the line calls, now Robinson isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, his motivation is also questioned, no more lazy and dumb players is my mantra from now on, even if they are on the fringe

it's also curious how the consensus best OG in the draft is a mid-2nd rounder by all accounts before the draft, and since OGs slip, he'll probably drop to like the 3rd or 4th, Elton Brown style (how about that 2005 class of OGs? that was a terrible)

I'll have to read up on Berry, but everyone seems to be raving about him

Sorry, Advocate.

I'm not buying the Andre Gurode is "dumb" thinking. Gurode doesn't need someone to hold his hand. Robinson was a first team All-American at Oklahoma. He has his flaws, but he should definately be a better than solid starter. The Cowboys want to run the football more, and Robinson is just the type of player the Cowboys want at guard. He should be a very good player or starter, and he's 22.

Robinson may fall because of the depth of the TE and WR positions and the defensive players and deep centers in the draft. He won't get past the Eagles. I would be willing to bet. I don't bet.

If Dallas doesn't take him, they would be wise to look at:

1. Cornelius Lewis
2. Jamie Thomas

Eric Berry will be a top 5 pick.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Delmas will not be there at 51!!!! I've been preaching that for days!! Phillips went 31 last year because the Giants had a GAPING hole at SS and Phillips was the best SS in the draft. I thought he played pretty well last season too. So I guess he "sucks" since so many teams passed..lol some of your guys logic sucks..especially 41gy's.

I doubt Delmas get's by New England at 35. If he does we're moving up to 40. I can promise you that..they SLURP Delmas. Archer, Mosely and Brian Stewart all think so also. Oh and he's pretty legit too!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

but he could take Sensabaugh's job sometime during the season or next season. we have to address the position with either him or Johnson imo.

Aces!

EAST 25TH STREET!

Sorry, Advocate.

I'm not buying the Andre Gurode is "dumb thinking". Gurode doesn't needs someone to hold his hand.

isn't it common knowledge that Kosier has to help with the line calls? the only reason Cory Proctor is still a Cowboy is because he's one of the few smart players we have on the line

Robinson was a first team All-American at Oklahoma. He has his flaws, but he should definately be a better than solid starter. The Cowboys want to run the football more, and Robinson is just the type of player the Cowboys want at guard. He should be a very good player or starter, and he's 22.

for sure Robinson is a smash-mouth player, but our line struggles with quickness, and Duke is a sloth, he's getting tore up by the Justin Tuck's of the world

Robinson may fall because of the depth of the TE and WR position and the defensive players and deep centers in the draft. He won't get past the Eagles, I would be willing to bet. I don't bet.

If Dallas doesn't take him, they would be wise to look at:

1. Cornelius Lewis
2. Jamie Thomas

Eric Berry will be a top 5 pick.

I'll watch out for Berry

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Delmas will not be there at 51!!!! I've been preaching that for days!! Phillips went 31 last year because the Giants had a GAPING hole at SS and Phillips was the best SS in the draft. I thought he played pretty well last season too. So I guess he "sucks" since so many teams passed..lol some of your guys logic sucks..especially 41gy's.

you missed the point entirely

the fact that in 2 weak safety classes, Phillips was ranked a 1st rounder while Delmas is a mid-2nd rounder, that brings up questions

I doubt Delmas get's by New England at 35. If he does we're moving up to 40. I can promise you that..they SLURP Delmas. Archer, Mosely and Brian Stewart all think so also. Oh and he's pretty legit too!

he'll be there at 51, the question is if we take him or not

 

[SLATEmosphere]

you missed the point entirely

the fact that in 2 weak safety classes, Phillips was ranked a 1st rounder while Delmas is a mid-2nd rounder



he'll be there at 51, the question is if we take him or not

Yet Phillips barely went in the first still..31?? 45??? is it that much of a difference??

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yet Phillips barely went in the first still..31?? 45??? is it that much of a difference??

has Delmas been taken at 45 yet? we're talking pre-draft rankings here

Delmas is just a more questionable player than Phillips was at this point in time, highly thought of players who rank at the top of their position, do not receive mid-2nd round grades

 

[Rampage]

has Delmas been taken at 45 yet? we're talking pre-draft rankings here

Delmas is just a more questionable player than Phillips was at this point in time, highly thought of players who rank at the top of their position, do not receive mid-2nd round grades

c'mon man the rankings aren't always correct.

Ryan Leaf 1st rounder

Tom Brady 7th rounder

 

[28 Joker]

Delmas will not be there at 51!!!! I've been preaching that for days!! Phillips went 31 last year because the Giants had a GAPING hole at SS and Phillips was the best SS in the draft. I thought he played pretty well last season too. So I guess he "sucks" since so many teams passed..lol some of your guys logic sucks..especially 41gy's.

I doubt Delmas get's by New England at 35. If he does we're moving up to 40. I can promise you that..they SLURP Delmas. Archer, Mosely and Brian Stewart all think so also. Oh and he's pretty legit too!

Kenny Phillips went in round 1, because he played safety at Miami and was a better prospect than Delmas. Phillips had a poor year (his senior year) and still went in round one.

I hope you are right. I hope he is gone. However, some big draft experts say he's going to be there around 51 (Kiper and Bunting).

NE has worked out plenty of safeties. I wouldn't hand them Delmas, yet. They need linebackers and a CB wouldn't hurt. They will look at NTs and centers and tackles.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

c'mon man the rankings aren't always correct.

Ryan Leaf 1st rounder

Tom Brady 7th rounder

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: I'm not predicting careers here!!

you would expect a player with this much hype attached to their name to at least be a top 32 player, since he's not, you have to question why he isn't ranked as high as people would lead you to believe he should be

and btw, this isn't a very good draft overall, that throws even more questions on him

 

[Rampage]

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: I'm not predicting careers here!!

you would expect a player with this much hype attached to their name to at least be a top 32 player, since he's not, you have to question why he isn't ranked as high as people would lead you to believe he should be

all i'm saying is maybe he's not being ranked high enough

 

[Bob Sacamano]

all i'm saying is maybe he's not being ranked high enough

he doesn't stand out in any area

not that big

not that fast

not the best ballhawk (although one of the best)

not the best tackler

not the most fundamentally sound, and probably mentally sound player

 

[28 Joker]

EAST 25TH STREET!



isn't it common knowledge that Kosier has to help with the line calls? the only reason Cory Proctor is still a Cowboy is because he's one of the few smart players we have on the line



for sure Robinson is a smash-mouth player, but our line struggles with quickness, and Duke is a sloth, he's getting tore up by the Justin Tuck's of the world



I'll watch out for Berry

We just disagree here. I think the "legend of Kyle Kosier" is a bit over blown, as far as the line calls go. Sure he helps out, but you would think Gurode was some kind of idiot by listening to some of the fans talk. That is why Romo shouldn't be showing him up on national T.V.

Proctor is on the team because of the lack of quality backup linemen in the NFL. He is on the team, because the Cowboys have failed to draft good players on the offensive line. He's there by default.

Most power offensive linemen will struggle with speed at times. However, they don't get run over like the finesse players the Cowboys have drafted under Jeff Irleland and Bill Parcells.

 

[Rampage]

he doesn't stand out in any area

not that big

not that fast

not the best ballhawk (although one of the best)

not the best tackler

not the most fundamentally sound, and probably mentally sound player

you sound like one of those draft know-it-alls who said some of the same things about the NFL's all time leading rusher.

BOB OWNED!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

We just disagree here. I think the "legend of Kyle Kosier" is a bit over blown, as far as the line calls go. Sure he helps out, but you would think Gurode was some kind of idiot by listening to some of the fans talk. That is why Romo shouldn't be showing him up on national T.V.

Proctor is on the team because of the lack of quality backup linemen in the NFL. He is on the team, because the Cowboys have failed to draft good players on the offensive line. He's there by default.

Most power offensive linemen will struggle with speed at times. However, they don't get run over like the finesse players the Cowboys have drafted under Jeff Irleland and Bill Parcells.

fine, we'll agree to disagree, but I still claim that Gurode is not very smart, Torrin Tucker distracted him and he spaces out

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you sound like one of those draft know-it-alls who said some of the same things about the NFL's all time leading rusher.

BOB OWNED!

Emmitt still went mid-1st round...