Bryant on pace for 148 targets

[xwalker]

You said the route in Arizona was a GO ROUTE.. how hard is that to comprehend.. that means your analysis of what is a go route and when Dez is allegedly double on what type of play is really questionable..

You must be referring to some type of generalization. I would not have addressed a specific play and called the wrong route.

 

[khiladi]

You must be referring to some type of generalization. I would not have addressed a specific play and called the wrong route.

You did..

 

[xwalker]

You did..

Not.

 

[Verdict]

Another fake narrative that Romo was pissed pff at Dez. That’s why the only Cowboys game he did, he was blaming the passes to Dez..

Perhaps you want to conveniently forget Romo getting on Dez to square off his routes and to protect the route, but it happened. I suspect that's why the team reduced the amount of dog routes and slants he was running. He is less likely to cause an int on a long straight route or a fade.

 

[Verdict]

Not.

His memory is a bit suspect or he is new to the Cowboys fandom if he can't remember the issues between Dez and Romo.

 

[Blackspider214]

The reason it takes QBs to get on target with Dez is because he is very limited and does not get open often. And his hands are subpar. If it's not a jump ball, he's below average. And it's not natural for QBs to throw jump balls that often like Dez wants them. And his separation is so poor you have to fit the ball in a very tight windows. I have no idea why people can't see this. It's not a QB issue. It's a Dez issue. Be it Romo or Dak.

 

[khiladi]

Perhaps you want to conveniently forget Romo getting on Dez to square off his routes and to protect the route, but it happened. I suspect that's why the team reduced the amount of dog routes and slants he was running. He is less likely to cause an int on a long straight route or a fade.

I remember Romo as a commentator gushing about Dez and how the passes thrown to him were not as they should be and specifically saying in one instance Dez ran an incredible route. I also remember Romo and Witten yelled at Garrett the year before he got demoted as play caller and Garrett’s brother getting let go despite being ‘passing game coordinator’ when Dez was a WR. And I also remember Jerry saying that when he hired Linehan he did it because the coach wasn’t using Dez properly. I also gave you your stats of Dez and TWill with Romo being extremely successful and running plenty of them, while even TWIll with Dak wasn’t successful with them. And stats that actually prove that Dez was very successful with slants and drag route along with the fact Dallas runs primarily go routes with not only Dez but TWill and Escobar..

So I’m suppose to believe some subjective perception of you that Romo Supposedly said or did this often..

 

[Verdict]

The reason it takes QBs to get on target with Dez is because he is very limited and does not get open often. And his hands are subpar. If it's not a jump ball, he's below average. And it's not natural for QBs to throw jump balls that often like Dez wants them. And his separation is so poor you have to fit the ball in a very tight windows. I have no idea why people can't see this. It's not a QB issue. It's a Dez issue. Be it Romo or Dak.

If Parcells were here I have no doubt that he would tell Dez you won't get another ball thrown your way until you learn how to get separation and run a route.

 

[khiladi]

Not.

Actually, this is what I responded to:

Two of the passes you consider go routes were a total of 12 yards and one of them was a TD meaning, in the red zone.

And the play action pass to Butler against Arizona which netted him the big yardage was a drag route.

I highly doubt that they were 8 go routes.

AND this was in response to your claim

He has thrown to Wiiten often when the coverage it tight.

Dak is 8 of 11 to Butler on go routes. That's a 72% catch rate. The overall catch rate for Dez this year is about 43%.

Dez is obviously out of bounds by the time Dak is ready to throw. Nobody needs to look at his feet.

 

[khiladi]

If Parcells were here I have no doubt that he would tell Dez you won't get another ball thrown your way until you learn how to get separation and run a route.

You mean the coach that didn’t target the Seattle scrub corners that were picked off the street because their starters were injured in the playoff game..

 

[Verdict]

I remember Romo as a commentator gushing about Dez and how the passes thrown to him were not as they should be and specifically saying in one instance Dez ran an incredible route. I also remember Romo and Witten yelled at Garrett the year before he got demoted as play caller and Garrett’s brother getting let go despite being ‘passing game coordinator’ when Dez was a WR. And I also remember Jerry saying that when he hired Linehan he did it because the coach wasn’t using Dez properly. I also gave you your stats of Dez and TWill with Romo being extremely successful and running plenty of them, while even TWIll with Dak wasn’t successful with them. And stats that actually prove that Dez was very successful with slants and drag route along with the fact Dallas runs primarily go routes with not only Dez but TWill and Escobar..

So I’m suppose to believe some subjective perception of you that Romo Supposedly said or did this often..

I guess it is hard fo you to fathom that he doesn't want to trash Dez on national TV. Lol.

 

[khiladi]

I guess it is hard fo you to fathom that he doesn't want to trash Dez on national TV. Lol.

More subjective opinion.

 

[Verdict]

You mean the coach that didn’t target the Seattle scrub corners that were picked off the street because their starters were injured in the playoff game..

Yeah. You know. Coach Bill. Parcells. Jersey Guy. Tough demeanor. Ring a bell for ya? If not google him. Maybe it will jog your memory. Lol

 

[khiladi]

Yeah. You know. Coach Bill. Parcells. Jersey Guy. Tough demeanor. Ring a bell for ya? If not google him. Maybe it will jog your memory. Lol

Maybe you missed the point.. the ultra conservative coach didn’t even attack scrub CBs in a playoff game with Terrell Owens.. hardly a case of proof about not throwing to Dez based on separation..


You know objective facts unlike you..

 

[xwalker]

Actually, this is what I responded to:



AND this was in response to your claim

Exactly as I expected.

You're strawmanning (Saying I said something that I didn't say).

 

[Verdict]

More subjective opinion.

Maybe you missed the point.. the ultra conservative coach didn’t even attack scrub CBs in a playoff game with Terrell Owens.. hardly a case of proof about not throwing to Dez based on separation..


You know objective facts unlike you..

I'm not the one revising history. Lol. If you want to forget the issues about Dez rounding off his routes, that's your prerogative. It wouldn't be factual. But whatever makes you happy.

 

[haleyrules]

Heck, maybe Bryant can catch a couple against the Eagles. He has played well against them in recent years.

 

[haleyrules]

If Parcells were here I have no doubt that he would tell Dez you won't get another ball thrown your way until you learn how to get separation and run a route.

Of course. Both Jimmy and ole Tom would have cut him years ago!! He has been too lucky.

 

[percyhoward]

The reality is Dez is asked to challenge the field deep on go routes, but that isn’t Dak’s strength.

Cowboys' 30+yard chunk plays on throws outside the numbers, by year:
2017 (6)
Bryant 1
others 5

2016 (9)
Bryant 4
others 5

2014 (9)
Bryant 6
others 3

2013 (9)
Bryant 6
others 3

2012 (14)
Bryant 10
others 4

 

[khiladi]

Cowboys' 30+yard chunk plays on throws outside the numbers, by year:
2017 (6)
Bryant 1
others 5

2016 (9)
Bryant 4
others 5

2014 (9)
Bryant 6
others 3

2013 (9)
Bryant 6
others 3

2012 (14)
Bryant 10
others 4

So thirty yards outside the numbers is automatically a go route?