BSPN running an entire segment called the "tarnished star"

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It's not smearing the Cowboys. Jerry had done enough of that.

It's a targeted attack to draw ratings...in fact even though they are calling it tarnishes star the fact that they are even making this segment just reiterates the impact the Cowboys have on the mind share of the league and fans.

While Jerry and company deserve blame for failures they almost deserve praise for keeping the Cowboys in the spotlight...we all agree it would be better if the spotlight was for reasons like winning...

Where is the segment ESPN is running on the Jaguars for not having a winning season in the last 7 years?

It's not either or like the self hating fans want to make it....
It's both a targeted smear and partial truth.
 

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At this point any Cowboys coverage on ESPN is closer to a vendetta than any actual reporting.

Ridiculous.

"just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you''

ESPN loves rubbin it in but we deserve a lot of it
 

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The NFL is a league where every transaction is important for your team to have solid starters, solid depth and a healthy locker room culture.

Some of the best moves are not splashy moves...

Sometimes letting go of players one year early is better than restructuring and holding onto them too long...

Desperation player acquisitions can significantly hurt a team's chances to succeed...

This front office over and over, over the last twenty years has shown, in critical junctures, it's inability to gauge the value of players from draft prospects to veterans with expiring contracts...

Boneheaded trades for the likes of Roy Williams... paying huge money to retain players with middle-of-the road pedigree like Marion Barber and Miles Austin...

Gambling in the draft on injured players, handing out large contracts to older players... ex. Marco Rivera and Jay Ratliff...

Not properly planning for and grooming future quarterbacks...

Trading high draft picks for a player, Morris Claiborne, who they never had in for a pre-draft visit...

This front office has been learning on the job for the last 20 years and still manages to make the same mistakes over and over again...

... though somewhat less with Stephen Jones having greater influence...

They deserve the criticism... the evidence is there for it...

For years, everybody was screaming to stop with the old, expensive free agents and high end trades. They said to sign your own free agents. "Be more like Green Bay, Pittsburgh, etc and get us out of salary cap hell."

So, the team finally learns how to do it and gets the salary cap in better shape than just about every team in the league... and what happens? People start screaming for Dallas to spend more money and make some trades for guys like Bennett or Wilkerson. Half the board wants Freeney here when he is exactly the type of guy (read: a big name) that Jerry used to bring in and that hardly ever worked out.

I agree that they earned the criticism for how they handled the salary cap, trades, and the draft from about 1995 until about 2010. Since then though, they have been pretty prudent with their picks and free agent deals as well as dumb trades. Like you mentioned... Stephen is likely a big driving force in that improvement... or put another way... getting Jerry less involved is a driving force in the improvement.

They have made mistakes since 2010 (Carr was overpaid and a big reason that Stephen says you pay all pro prices for just good players, and the Claiborne decision was just stupid)... but they are world's better than they were pre 2010 in all three areas (trades, draft, free agency).
 

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"just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you''

ESPN loves rubbin it in but we deserve a lot of it

I don't disagree. Signing up Hardy, McClain and Gregory in a two year span will bring just this sort of scrutiny. However, ESPN revels in it and it couldn't be more obvious.

My disdain for that network isn't dependent upon them not having a point from time-to-time.

I just don't like 'em.
 

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I stopped watching ESPN years ago, any relevance they had is pretty much gone, its all about ratings. And who better for ratings than the Star. Only other franchise that comes close to this type of scrutiny is the Yankees.
 

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For years, everybody was screaming to stop with the old, expensive free agents and high end trades. They said to sign your own free agents. "Be more like Green Bay, Pittsburgh, etc and get us out of salary cap hell."

So, the team finally learns how to do it and gets the salary cap in better shape than just about every team in the league... and what happens? People start screaming for Dallas to spend more money and make some trades for guys like Bennett or Wilkerson. Half the board wants Freeney here when he is exactly the type of guy (read: a big name) that Jerry used to bring in and that hardly ever worked out.

I agree that they earned the criticism for how they handled the salary cap, trades, and the draft from about 1995 until about 2010. Since then though, they have been pretty prudent with their picks and free agent deals as well as dumb trades. Like you mentioned... Stephen is likely a big driving force in that improvement... or put another way... getting Jerry less involved is a driving force in the improvement.

They have made mistakes since 2010 (Carr was overpaid and a big reason that Stephen says you pay all pro prices for just good players, and the Claiborne decision was just stupid)... but they are world's better than they were pre 2010 in all three areas (trades, draft, free agency).


I agree with most of this....but....
The Freeney point misses with me. I don't see Freeney being the big name high price player that hardly ever works out type....Freeney would be a veteran who could be used as a situational pass rusher and give us a boost when needed. The money commitment would not be significant. He would be asked to be what he was last year. An aging pass rusher who unfortunately would be one of our top 2 pass rushers throughout the season...not this long term cap killing big name free agent....not at all.
 

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I agree with most of this....but....
The Freeney point misses with me. I don't see Freeney being the big name high price player that hardly ever works out type....Freeney would be a veteran who could be used as a situational pass rusher and give us a boost when needed. The money commitment would not be significant. He would be asked to be what he was last year. An aging pass rusher who unfortunately would be one of our top 2 pass rushers throughout the season...not this long term cap killing big name free agent....not at all.
I gotcha.
 

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Tarnished Star.
Well if the shoe fits wear it.

It dang sure isn't an undeserved hit piece .
 

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It has sure fallen in the one area that matters the most, winning. Profits and fanbase is my last concern.

We haven't won a SB in 20 years. So if that's what you mean by fallen. This is the norm. It hasn't fallen in my perspective, because we haven't risen far enough to fall.
 

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Well, to have something that is tarnished means it once did shine bright. There are a LOT of teams that can't lay claim to that. I'll say it again, I could care less what ESPN has to say.
 

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I don't give a damn about no friggin standards. We are what we are: A solid football team.

I didn't leave out anything. I noted we were one injury plagued season removed from 12-4. Why do you wear the 4-12 badge more proudly than the 12-4 badge? It's because Cowboy fans love nothing more than wollowing in their own self pity.
How long will you grasp to the one 12-4 season as a sign of success? 12-4 was an exception, not the rule. This is a .500 football team over the last decade. That is not solid, it is called mediocre , average , middle of the pack, etc. You may not care about standards, but you should.
 

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We haven't won a SB in 20 years. So if that's what you mean by fallen. This is the norm. It hasn't fallen in my perspective, because we haven't risen far enough to fall.
Compared to the teams in the past, not only has the team fallen, but it had s crash landing. I liked the team going to the playoffs and being contenders for the Super Bosl every year during the Landry years. I liked the Super Bowls that started when Jimmy came to Dallas. Dallas went from being the best franchise in the league to being the most average team in the league.
 

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Got rid of a cable package that doesn't include ESPN because of their "reporting" and "segments", and I don't miss it one bit.
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Don't watch it. Don't care. We're the Beyonce of football.
That's why there's Cowboys Zone and Cowboys App.
Use it.
 
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