BTB: Carpenter Play By Play

[FuzzyLumpkins]

play by play for Bobby

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run play Bobby is driven out of play by guard

pass play to opposite side of field Bobby hustles across field and makes play. Very quick!

Bobby takes bad angle on run up middle makes an arm tackle.

Bobby covers tight end into flat, covers him very well. Pass goes elsewhere

Bobby Covers running back out of backfield, covers him really well, pass goes elsewhere

Bobby covers tight end in flat, pass goes elsewhere. Bobby has very good coverage on tight end.

Bobby gets very physical and fills and makes tackle in hole.

Bobby blitzes, has collision with Running back, causes errant pass with pressure.

Bobby covers tight end into flat, very good coverage.

Bobby drops back 10 yards to have ball go over his finger tips on deep middle pass.(Zone coverage?)

Bobby gets blocked by guard, looks like he got stuck to him, Bobby gets pushed around pretty bad.

Bobby blitzes, causes errant pass due to pressure.

Bobby gets doubled somehow, he gets blown out of the play.

Bobby plays deep with just six seconds left, gets blocked by guard cant get off,

Carpenter stats playing with 3rd team D

Carpenter fights off guard and makes tackle after four yard gain.

Carpenter blitz, gets to QB and forces early pass.

Carpenter lines up at ROLB, rushes with swim move. Gets pressure just a little late.

Carpenter blitzes and gets pancaked, I think its the running back who got him but its hard to tell.

Carpenter blitzes, crossing blitx with other middle linebacker.

Carpenter gets blocked by guard, gets off, then fullback gets off then gets his clock cleaned by a wide receiver.

Carpenter covers tight end in flat, very good coverage.

Carpenter gets bocked by guard and driven backwards, then getws hit by second guard and driven even deeper into endzone on goalline.

Carpenter gets driven out of play by guard.

Carpenter bites on play action but shows good speed and recovers to cover tight end.

Tackle gets to Carpenter and drives him 10 yards down field.

Delayed blitz and gets to QB right after the ball is thrown.

Bobby has good coverage on running back into flat.

Bobby shakes guard on goaline and makes tackle at goalline, Very good play for Bobby.

Noone blocks Bobby on running play away from Bobby. He had no chance to make play.

Bobby gets creamed by fullback on running play up middle, Hes knocked out of play.

It first appeared Bobby was running from the guard but replay showed a guard with an arm around his waist and a tackle pushing him. Wierd play but it was holding not called.

Great coverage on tight end down seam.

Carpenter blitz hits QB as he releases ball.

Sweep play Bobby makes physical tackle, good play for Bobby.

Bobby Covers tight end in flat, good coverage.

Bobby covers tight end down flat, he almost intercepts pass, good play for bobby.

Bobby has good coverage in flat.

I have mixed feelings about Bobby's game. He was really good in coverage but not so good against the run. He made some good plays against the run but as the play by play above showed he was driven often out of the play. He showed an ability to blitz too. For a linebacker he is fast and the coaches have to like that but he is less physical than what I like.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/...r-play-by-play

One thing I want to point to out is that on most of the run plays here Carp was not 'physical' enough was because he had a guard weighing 50+ more pounds than him on him. The defensive line was not doing diddly to keep the interior oline from getting to the second level. Time after time you see guard in these listings.

James is supposedly extremely physical but I remember when he first started that we couldn't keep guards off of him and he was a liability in the run game. Shane Andrews made him his ***** that year.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Bobby gets blocked by guard, looks like he got stuck to him, Bobby gets pushed around pretty bad.

I read this and got a vision of Carp being swung around like a rag doll with his blonde hair waving and him squealing..

Overall, sounds like he did well in coverage.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Sounds like Carps issues he sheding blocks. A major weakness for a linebacker, which is why he will only play on passing downs in the nickel defense. On most plays, he shouldn't have a guard hitting him. That is an issue with the dline not eating olinemen.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Carp probably needs to go to a Tampa 2 defense

 

[DeaconBlues]

Sounds like Carps issues he sheding blocks. A major weakness for a linebacker, which is why he will only play on passing downs in the nickel defense. On most plays, he should have a guard hitting him. That is an issue with the dline not eating olinemen.

No, he shouldn't. A good Dline will occupy the OL, leaving only backs and the ball carrier. There's not a single LB in the league that can repeatedly take on guards and not be worn down by the 3rd Qtr.

 

[texbumthelife]

Carp probably needs to go to a Tampa 2 defense

I literally thought this exact thing and was about to post it until I read you already had.

He sounds like he would be perfect in the Colts scheme which relies on quickness and agility and coverage ability.

 

[texbumthelife]

No, he shouldn't. A good Dline will occupy the OL, leaving only backs and the ball carrier. There's not a single LB in the league that can repeatedly take on guards and not be worn down by the 3rd Qtr.

Not in a 3-4. In a 3-4 one of your inside linebackers is taking on a guard or center on almost every run play.

 

[YosemiteSam]

No, he shouldn't. A good Dline will occupy the OL, leaving only backs and the ball carrier. There's not a single LB in the league that can repeatedly take on guards and not be worn down by the 3rd Qtr.

Typo, that should have been shouldn't. If you continued to read, you would have figured out it was a typo.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Sounds like Barbie is a free safety in a LB's body.

 

[texbumthelife]

Typo, that should have been shouldn't. If you continued to read, you would have figured out it was a typo.

We have three down linemen, how are they taking on five offensive linemen? Maybe we could get three Pat Williams's on the team and Bobby could get away with being scared of contact.

 

[YosemiteSam]

We have three down linemen, how are they taking on five offensive linemen? Maybe we could get three Pat Williams's on the team and Bobby could get away with being scared of contact.

First, your NT is supposed to eat two of them right off the bat. (If not, you need a new NT) If you've got a good DE, he too can eat two.

I didn't say they never face OL. Thats the reason 3-4 LBs are larger than 4-3 LBers. Well, thats not always the case in Wade's defense.

 

[DeaconBlues]

We have three down linemen, how are they taking on five offensive linemen? Maybe we could get three Pat Williams's on the team and Bobby could get away with being scared of contact.

Watch the Ravens DL when they are in a 3-4. They consistently, with their front three, tie up entire OLs on running plays. Not on every play, but on most.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Bobby Carpenter is ike a mirror image of SS Roy Williams.

Safeties should be good in coverage in the deep middle, but Williams was horroble at that; instead he was one-dimensional in that he was good only in run support close to the line of scrimmage.

Linebackers should be good in run-support near the line of scrimmage, but Carpenter seems to be horroble at that; instead he is one-dimensional in that he is good only in pass support off of the line of scrimmage.

How's that for deja-vu?

 

[Apollo Creed]

I'm so rue'd out when it comes to Carp.

 

[texbumthelife]

First, your NT is supposed to eat two of them right off the bat. (If not, you need a new NT) If you've got a good DE, he too can eat two.

I didn't say they never face OL. Thats the reason 3-4 LBs are larger than 4-3 LBers. Well, thats not always the case in Wade's defense.

You pretty much said it yourself. In a perfect world, the contact between your LB's and the other teams OL would be minimal to non-existent, but in reality its not going to happen. The inside linebackers in a 34 need to be able to engage and get off blocks.

Bobby Carpenter refuses to attack a block at all and therefor cant disengage. It really doesn't matter if he should have to, he does have to. He is just too soft to play MLB in a 34. Period.

 

[Dodger]

Sounds to me like Carpenter is doing very well in coverage. If I read the OP correctly, he didn't allow a single pass completion.

Okay, sure, he still has some issues with run support, but in all honesty, I'm perfectly happy if his role is primarily as the nickel LB. After seeing our inside LBs getting burned by TEs year after year, this will be a welcome change.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Sounds to me like Carpenter is doing very well in coverage. If I read the OP correctly, he didn't allow a single pass completion.

Okay, sure, he still has some issues with run support, but in all honesty, I'm perfectly happy if his role is primarily as the nickel LB. After seeing our inside LBs getting burned by TEs year after year, this will be a welcome change.

Yeah but that doesn't matter when they audible out of the play and run it directly at Barbie. If he has glaring weaknesses, which he does - they will get exposed very quickly.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Yeah but that doesn't matter when they audible out of the play and run it directly at Barbie. If he has glaring weaknesses, which he does - they will get exposed very quickly.

That's exactly what they did to SS Roy Williams. when we lined him up-close to the line for run support, defenses threw the ball right at/past him. They'll scheme Carpenter in a similar fashion, by spreading the defense and then running right at/past him. That's how consistently beat "one-dimensional" players.

 

[dallasfaniac]

If they want to audible out of pass to run the ball at Carpenter, that's fine with me. We win that battle 9 times out of 10 because it is most likely 3rd and long and we don't have our entire backup defense on the field.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I will bet whatever that Carp makes more plays (sacks, FF, ints) than Burnett did. I still say that if the Dline can help keep OG off him Carp would be at the very least a serviceable WILB.