BTB: Dallas Cowboys Roster/IR/PS 2014: ***Current as of Sep3***

[xwalker]

Could you guys see us trading Carter? I don't see what's the point of keeping him around anymore.

The Cowboys barely have enough LBs to field a starting lineup.

Durant
McClain - You have to assume that he could flake out at any minute.
Wilber - He might have to play more DE than originally anticipated.
Hitchens - Probably not ready.
C. Lawrence - Really just a Special Teams player.
Carter - Probably a starter.

 

[CCBoy]

The Cowboys barely have enough LBs to field a starting lineup.

Durant
McClain - You have to assume that he could flake out at any minute.
Wilber - He might have to play more DE than originally anticipated.
Hitchens - Probably not ready.
C. Lawrence - Really just a Special Teams player.
Carter - Probably a starter.

Your snapshot is pretty much on target.

Myself, I don't see Ronaldo McClain as a head case...only as a player getting back into the flow. He should prove solid in the middle, and I think healthy as well.

Hitchens just needs to grow, but he'll hit some bad habit times as he adjusts up in his intensities. He is a potential with heavy 'rookie' types of baggage.

Lawrence is a strong add for the special teams. Hey, that is an important area...but he does have a professional base line set of skills at linebacker. He will help carry some of the load for steady at the position.

Hitchens might just fit at strong side linebacker and make it work. I think his mixing into a defensive end position is too much to expect him to carry through the season as a steady duo job. His skills actually maximize in the role of linebacker...leave him there, except for isolated plays.

Carter has been paid for, and shown patience. It's now time for him to be pulling his yoke at the level of expectations...or simply, left to backup and waived at some point in the near future.

Durant is a good add on piece, but is getting old pretty fast now. Glad to have him for now.

This section badly needs Sean Lee right now...and another strong piece added.

 

[jobberone]

They had to keep an minimum of 8 OL, IMO. I think Wetzel would have been cut if Weems was healthy. Wetzel will have to be the backup backup OG. Weems has good upside. We didn't really see him in this preseason, but in the preseason last year he reminded me of Leary from the preseason before. You could see the NFL physical ability, but he was raw. I wouldn't be surprised to see them try to get Wetzel to the PS when Weems is healthy. OT is a more expensive position to fill than RB these days, so I can understand it to some extent.

Bishop has been as good as Hayden and possibly better. He has some ability to penetrate which Hayden doesn't. Bishop and Minter are different positions. Minter was blown up against the run and he's highly likely to make it to the PS. The injury to T. McClain created a need for 1-techs. When he gets healthy, I would move on from Hayden.

If they really wanted to keep Ryan Williams or LaRon Byrd, they could have cut the FB and brought a FB back when D-Law goes on DFR-IR. The decision not to keep Spencer on PUP also cost them a player. He will barely get back before he could have returned under the PUP rules anyway.

There are other players that would have been highly likely to clear waivers like Special Teams player Cam Lawrence. They could easily have brought him back in a week or two.

I didn't really think anybody would have claimed the QB Vaughan either. Does he really have the upside to be a starter?

I agree with most but not Spencer. We'll have to agree to disagree about that. Clutts was likely the STs coach jumping on a table screaming at others.

 

[xwalker]

I agree with most but not Spencer. We'll have to agree to disagree about that. Clutts was likely the STs coach jumping on a table screaming at others.

Considering the D-Law is going to go on IR-return on Tuesday, they could have used Spencer as the player that was cut and then re-signed on Tuesday. He is not subject to waivers and they could give him the exact same salary. I don't think any other team was going to make him a bigger offer. Any one of Clutts, Spencer or Hayden could have been cut and re-signed on Tuesday.

 

[jobberone]

Considering the D-Law is going to go on IR-return on Tuesday, they could have used Spencer as the player that was cut and then re-signed on Tuesday. He is not subject to waivers and they could give him the exact same salary. I don't think any other team was going to make him a bigger offer. Any one of Clutts, Spencer or Hayden could have been cut and re-signed on Tuesday.

You can't cut Spencer. He'd never make it thru waivers. He will play some snaps game 2 or 3. They just couldn't cut Clutts without pissing off Murray, Brown and Bisaccia; mostly the latter. Spencer also had to be on PUP until the last minute then taken off before the cuts. Lawrence couldn't be designated until after the cuts. That all hurt but couldn't be helped.

 

[jobberone]

PS Primer:

A player must now have a minimum of six games – up from the current three games – on a practice squad in order for that season to count as one of the player’s three permissible seasons of practice squad service.

Each club will be permitted to sign up to two practice squad players who have earned up to two accrued seasons of free agency credit. An accrued season means a player was on full pay status for more than eight regular season games on the 53-man roster or on IR. Previously, a player who had earned one or more accrued seasons would not be eligible for a practice squad unless the player spent fewer than nine games on a club’s 46-player active list in each of his accrued seasons.

 

[theSHOW]

DE DeMarcus Lawrence
DE Anthony Spencer
DE Tyrone Crawford
DE George Selvie
DE Jeremy Mincey
DE Lavar Edwards

DT Henry Melton
DT Terrell McClain
DT Nick Hayden
DT Davon Coleman
DT Ken Bishop

LB Bruce Carter
LB Justin Durant
LB Kyle Wilber
LB Rolando McClain
LB Anthony Hitchens
LB Cameron Lawrence


That's a pretty sad group of bodies. Not a single guy there without a huge question mark over his head.

but still better than wearing a cheese head hat.

 

[CCBoy]

The defensive side now has moved some:

DE Demarcus Lawrence (IR)
DE Anthony Spencer
DE Tyrone Crawford
DE George Selvie
DE Lavar Edwards
DE Jack Crawford

DT Henry Melton
DT Terrell McClain
DT Nick Hayden
DT Davon Coleman
DT Ken Bishop

LB Bruce Carter
LB Justin Durant
LB Kyle Wilber
LB Rolando McClain
LB Anthony Hitchens
LB Cameron Lawrence
LB Korey Toomer


From this group are IR Lawrence and Cameron Lawrence a special team ace...

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You can't cut Spencer. He'd never make it thru waivers. He will play some snaps game 2 or 3. They just couldn't cut Clutts without pissing off Murray, Brown and Bisaccia; mostly the latter. Spencer also had to be on PUP until the last minute then taken off before the cuts. Lawrence couldn't be designated until after the cuts. That all hurt but couldn't be helped.

Agreed.

I don't think you could cut Spencer. I don't think you could chance it.

I could hear the howls now...

"What are the Cowboys doing? They make Spencer a 2-time franchise player. They stick with him during his surgery, they resign him, get him rehabbed back... within a few weeks of playing again– and they cut him?"

 

[xwalker]

You can't cut Spencer. He'd never make it thru waivers. He will play some snaps game 2 or 3. They just couldn't cut Clutts without pissing off Murray, Brown and Bisaccia; mostly the latter. Spencer also had to be on PUP until the last minute then taken off before the cuts. Lawrence couldn't be designated until after the cuts. That all hurt but couldn't be helped.

There are no waivers for vested veterans like Spencer. He would be a Free Agent if cut. Whoever was cut would have been re-signed on Tuesday the 2nd. The game is not until Sunday the 7th.

 

[jobberone]

There are no waivers for vested veterans like Spencer. He would be a Free Agent if cut. Whoever was cut would have been re-signed on Tuesday the 2nd. The game is not until Sunday the 7th.

You're right. I mentioned somewhere that he could sign anywhere. Brain freeze I guess. If he plays before the 4th or even 5th game then that's better for the club. Also it is my understanding that if you are on the active PUP list in the preseason and don't come off or practice then you automatically go on the Reserve PUP list. This is the reason I said he had to come off officially before the end of the preseason. Otherwise he can't practice or play for six weeks at least.

I assume you can take him off the active PUP then put him on the Reserve PUP.

He needs to practice and then play ASAP.

 

[jobberone]

S Ahmad Dixon cut. Nikita Whitlock added to PS.

 

[jobberone]

I think I updated this correctly. PM me if you see any errors. Thanks.

 

[CyberB0b]

You can't cut Spencer. He'd never make it thru waivers. He will play some snaps game 2 or 3. They just couldn't cut Clutts without pissing off Murray, Brown and Bisaccia; mostly the latter. Spencer also had to be on PUP until the last minute then taken off before the cuts. Lawrence couldn't be designated until after the cuts. That all hurt but couldn't be helped.

Weren't we the only team to offer Spencer a contract? 250k guaranteed. He wasn't exactly a hot commodity in the free agent market.

 

[jobberone]

Weren't we the only team to offer Spencer a contract? 250k guaranteed. He wasn't exactly a hot commodity in the free agent market.

Don't know where you got that. His salary this yr is 2mil with 1.25 base and 250k guaranteed. He got a roster bonus and the rest of his salary looks like this with incentives up to a total of 3.5mil:

• Split Salary: $423,000
• Per Game Bonus: $46,875
• Sack Incentives:
  7: $250,000
  9: $500,000
  11: $750,000
• 65% of Snaps: $250,000
• 85% of Snaps: $750,000

 

[dogunwo]

I think they kept Wetzel because Weems is still injured.

I hope they replace him on the practice squad because he is awful. Plus, he can get back to his real job. I am sure others have found this.

http://i1377.***BLOCKED***/albums/ah63/David_Ogunwo/pretzel_zpsa586fc5f.jpg

 

[nalam]

The defensive side now has moved some


From this group are IR Lawrence and Cameron Lawrence a special team ace...

Where is Mincey, is he gone ?

 

[CCBoy]

Where is Mincey, is he gone ?

Naw, he's a live and well in French Algiers...

No, he's still a part of the 53 man roster, and being counted upon for rotational value.

With Spencer and Lawrence out for right now...he gives the team 10 DL to work with for the present.

 

[Idgit]

Gonna be gripping my seat that we have no injuries in the secondary those first four games. Awfully thin at both CB and S.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Gonna be gripping my seat that we have no injuries in the secondary those first four games. Awfully thin at both CB and S.

You and me both.