BTB: Life After T.O.: Contrasting Terrell Owens vs. Roy Williams

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Here is an excellent write up by Carl Sheldon from blogingtheboys. He makes a number of astute observations on the issue.

I didn't see it posted anywhere. Sorry in advance if it's a repost.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/3/7/784790/life-after-t-o-contrasting

When the Dallas Cowboys pulled the trigger on a mid-season trade to acquire Detroit Lions wide receiver Roy Williams, we knew that this time would eventually come. Terrell Owens is out, and Roy Williams is in as the Cowboys top wide receiver. There is little question as to whether or not Williams can be a true number one threat in the NFL. It is clear that Williams can do the job, but he presents quite a different set of skills than Terrell Owens. In three seasons as a Cowboy Owens has averaged 79 receptions, 1,196 yards, and almost 13 touchdowns. Williams may have an opportunity to approach some of these numbers, but he will certainly have to do it in a fashion quite different than what we are used to seeing with Owens.


In all honesty, Terrell Owens has entered the initial phase of his athletic decline. We have seen a deterioration of foot speed and short area quickness, which has been a main contributor to Owens' recent struggles to beat the press. One athletic attribute that has yet to fail Owens is his unparalleled top-end speed. Owens may not accelerate to fifth gear as quickly as he once did, but he can still redline it with the best of them. Roy Williams just does not have that type of speed, and people close to the Cowboys have shared the same sentiments. I'd be doing Williams a disservice by comparing his speed to Michael Irvin's, but the two are similar. Irvin never had blazing speed, but still caught his fair share of deep balls. I expect the same from Williams (who is considerably faster than Irvin was), but the Cowboys should still be able to compromise a defense vertically with Miles Austin, whose speed is at least in the same league as Owens'.


Throughout his career Terrell Owens has made a living using his speed and his 6'3"/ 226 lb. frame to control the middle of the football field. Owens still is nearly unstoppable on slants, digs, drags, shallow posts, and curls simply because of his size and strength. Once he is off the line he is nearly impossible to re-route, and is still as dangerous as anyone in the league at catching the football and running out of the backside of your defensive formation. Roy Williams at 6'3"/211, does possess some of the same skills. Williams' strength is more than adequate, and his balance is fantastic. Williams is definitely equipped with the physical tools necessary to control the middle of the field, but simply was not called upon to do so with much frequency in Detroit. But with the best tight end in football, and Patrick Crayton now probably moving back into the slot full-time, the Cowboys should still be able to get plays down the middle.


One clear advantage that Roy Williams has over Terrell Owens is body control. Roy Williams can high-point the football with the best of them, Larry Fitzgerald included. Williams has demonstrated the ability to make leaping one-handed catches, tap his toes on his way out of bounds, and compete for the football in a way that Terrell Owens cannot even comprehend. Williams height, leaping ability (see long jump and high jump), balance, and tenacity in attacking the football should make him virtually unstoppable in the red zone. If the Cowboys choose to do so, a fade to Williams inside the ten should be nearly automatic, especially in a division full of shorter cornerbacks.


Williams has also exhibited better hands than T.O. in recent years. Terrell Owens has at times been a body catcher (much like Michael Irvin), some of which can be attributed to the number of balls he catches in traffic, where body catching is actually beneficial. Owens also has problems deciding whether or not to reverse his hands, therefore ending up with awkward hand positioning on balls above chest height. Roy Williams does have his lapses in focus, but for the most part catches the ball with his hands, out in front of his body. As they build more familiarity, Tony Romo may grow to trust him on third down more than he ever did Owens.


Williams has the tools, the quarterback, and the corresponding offensive weapons to be a top-notch receiver in this league, but it is comments like this that concern me:


In an ESPN interview (before Owens' release), Williams was asked about his relationship with Terrell Owens, and whether or not the two were workout partners. Williams had this to say:
"That's my boy, but we don't work out (together). We probably never will work out (together). He may work out a little too hard for me."
Maybe I'm reaching, but that's not what I want to hear from the new focal point of the Cowboys passing game. With people already questioning his work ethic, I would have liked to see him come up with a better answer for that question. I'm sorry but if this guy is in my locker room, I'm working out with him.


Still, Roy Williams is set up to have a big year in the absence of Terrell Owens. We will find out rather quickly whether or not all those picks and all of that money were worth it. I expect Roy to have a big year, just look for a few more catches, and a few less yards. Look for less 60-yard touchdowns, and more 11-yard completions on 3rd and 9. Lights, camera, action Roy. I hope you are ready for your close up.
 

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what an awesome pic
http://i168.***BLOCKED***/albums/u193/KING_THIRTY2/RoyWilliamsOneHandedGrabLions.jpg
 

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Good article. We're going to be fine at WR without what's his name.
 

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Hostile;2678596 said:
Good article. We're going to be fine at WR without what's his name.

Danny Amendola, Armadillo.........., ?
 

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HomeOfLegends;2678601 said:
Danny Amendola, Armadillo.........., ?
Him.

http://img235.*************/img235/7126/aceventura8pt5.gif
 

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Hostile;2678607 said:
Him.

http://img235.*************/img235/7126/aceventura8pt5.gif

Dude, I wonder if Jim Carrey would accept a job as the new Rowdy......
 

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Hostile;2678607 said:
Him.

http://img235.*************/img235/7126/aceventura8pt5.gif

His facial expression right before he delivers the set-up left slap is priceless.
 

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You just have to accept that Roy Williams is not going to do everything possible to maximize his talent. He is not and will never be a hard worker.
 

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ethiostar;2678059 said:
Here is an excellent write up by Carl Sheldon from blogingtheboys. He makes a number of astute observations on the issue.
In all honesty, Terrell Owens has entered the initial phase of his athletic decline. We have seen a deterioration of foot speed and short area quickness, which has been a main contributor to Owens' recent struggles to beat the press. One athletic attribute that has yet to fail Owens is his unparalleled top-end speed. Owens may not accelerate to fifth gear as quickly as he once did, but he can still redline it with the best of them. Roy Williams just does not have that type of speed, and people close to the Cowboys have shared the same sentiments. I'd be doing Williams a disservice by comparing his speed to Michael Irvin's, but the two are similar. Irvin never had blazing speed, but still caught his fair share of deep balls. I expect the same from Williams (who is considerably faster than Irvin was), but the Cowboys should still be able to compromise a defense vertically with Miles Austin, whose speed is at least in the same league as Owens'.

I agree with much of what he says but where do people get the idea that RW11 isn't FAST?
From his own link;

"100 METERS
1 Nick Nichols Sugar Land Austin 10.40
2 Adam Wooten Duncanville 10.42
3 Roy Williams Odessa Permian 10.48


Since when is a mid 10 sec 100 meter not fast??
 

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wick;2678851 said:
You just have to accept that Roy Williams is not going to do everything possible to maximize his talent. He is not and will never be a hard worker.

Jury is still out. As much as I want to hate him, its like this.

He played on the worst team in NFL history, in a pass-happy offense that always played from behind. Had very little incentive to do well, had terrible coaching, and just dominated using his physical skill set.

I'm worried that he's not a high football IQ guy, and that the pressure of the big lights in Texas might be too much for a guy like Roy.

Pressure busts pipes, and it also makes diamonds. Roy works hard this offseason, has a good camp, works extra with Romo, then he has a shot.

If he does what he's done in Detroit his whole career, well we're screwed.
 

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Apollo Creed;2678895 said:
I'm worried that he's not a high football IQ guy, and that the pressure of the big lights in Texas might be too much for a guy like Roy.
Yeah, starring at Odessa Permian and the U Of Texas is just a terrible way to prepare someone for pressure on the football field IN TEXAS.:lmao:
 

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jimmy40;2679290 said:
Yeah, starring at Odessa Permian and the U Of Texas is just a terrible way to prepare someone for pressure on the football field IN TEXAS.:lmao:

Wouldn't that create more pressure on him now? Emoticons!!!213j2rfarwar
 

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Apollo Creed;2679297 said:
Wouldn't that create more pressure on him now? Emoticons!!!213j2rfarwar
One issue with Roy Williams. Will he stay healthy? That's it. If you think the bright lights are going to get to this guy you don't have a clue.
Well I guess there another thing. He's not TO so guys have this giant TO corn cob up their *** about him.
 

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Apollo Creed;2678895 said:
Jury is still out. As much as I want to hate him, its like this.

He played on the worst team in NFL history, in a pass-happy offense that always played from behind. Had very little incentive to do well, had terrible coaching, and just dominated using his physical skill set.

I'm worried that he's not a high football IQ guy, and that the pressure of the big lights in Texas might be too much for a guy like Roy.

Pressure busts pipes, and it also makes diamonds. Roy works hard this offseason, has a good camp, works extra with Romo, then he has a shot.

If he does what he's done in Detroit his whole career, well we're screwed.

The jury is not out. Roy Williams has never been a hard worker, and that goes back to his days at Texas. There's a decade of evidence, so I'd say that jury is in.
 

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wick;2679311 said:
The jury is not out. Roy Williams has never been a hard worker, and that goes back to his days at Texas. There's a decade of evidence, so I'd say that jury is in.

Several college athletes don't work hard, especially when they are physically gifted enough to dominate without the effort. Being drafted to Detroit doesn't help those tendencies. Especially with a revolving door coaching staff, and absolutely no incentive to work hard.

He's too young for me to write him off completely, but this season will be very telling. I have been one of Roy's biggest critics, and I still dislike the move - but we have to live with it.
 

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We have Austin who I think will really shine this year, and Crayton I think will again become a force in the slot. RW does not have to fill TO's shoes - all he has to do is work within the framework of the offense. I don't see him as the #1 WR, I see him siimply as an option equal to Austin/Crayton/Witten, and that's a good thing. Defenses can't key on any one player...

That said, we need to start grooming our next starting WR in case of injury and/or RW or Austin not working out. I would grab a guy who can stretch the field, drafting him somewhere around the 100th pick, with a good work ethic and intelligent. I haven't researched the draft yet, but that's what I'd be looking for. JMO
 

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Apollo Creed;2679324 said:
Several college athletes don't work hard, especially when they are physically gifted enough to dominate without the effort. Being drafted to Detroit doesn't help those tendencies. Especially with a revolving door coaching staff, and absolutely no incentive to work hard.

He's too young for me to write him off completely, but this season will be very telling. I have been one of Roy's biggest critics, and I still dislike the move - but we have to live with it.

That's about how I feel too. Excluding last year and the trade, he has only really had one full season where he wasn't lost to some sort of injury. I worry about durability and the ability to click with Romo. Someone else mentioned he and Romo have been working out with each other during the offseason. I haven't seen any news stories to confirm but, if true, that's a very good step in the right direction for both guys.
 

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wick;2678851 said:
You just have to accept that Roy Williams is not going to do everything possible to maximize his talent. He is not and will never be a hard worker.

He made it to the NFL and has been around a while, he must work some what hard. Hopefully the rumors are false about his work ethics.
 

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l2obert;2678890 said:
I agree with much of what he says but where do people get the idea that RW11 isn't FAST?
From his own link;

"100 METERS
1 Nick Nichols Sugar Land Austin 10.40
2 Adam Wooten Duncanville 10.42
3 Roy Williams Odessa Permian 10.48


Since when is a mid 10 sec 100 meter not fast??

He doesn't look fast IE Vince Young so people get deceptively fooled.
 

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wick;2679311 said:
The jury is not out. Roy Williams has never been a hard worker, and that goes back to his days at Texas. There's a decade of evidence, so I'd say that jury is in.

Im not saying he has worked hard in the past because I don't think he completely has but by all accounts he is preparing to be in the best shape of his life this offseason.

The working out as hard as Owens comment doesn't really bother me considering Owens is a workout phenom and thats why 99% of 36 year old players still aren't one of the fastest guys on the team at 230 lbs.

Nobody works harder than Owens and thats where he was going with that comment.

Not "im a lazy bum".
 
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