News: BTB: Noah Brown is a Swiss Army Knife an a Lock to Make Roster in 2022

[Mannix]

I’ll hate on him…it’s a JOKE that we haven’t churned him off the roster yet. He plays more like a Swiss Army Wife. His only supporters on here seem to be blind loyalty Buckeye fans. But, but, but, he can block….pfffftt!!!!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Come on Noah, I know it's a cushy job, but give up the cowboys and go play for a competent team.

Dear Stevio, you are correct for once in your flailing tenure at CZ.
But...
Right you are toff. Right you are.

Get Brown on another team that sets a low bar!
And:
Players do love the lush, cushy life at the Ranch.

They luv their contracts for life and for what? Starring on 9-8 teams that stumble in the first round or never play postseason.

You have heard it before: Little accountability.

I would luv for Fat Mac to have a
*Personality/discipline of Jimmy.
*Brains like Kyle Shanahan (since 2017) or Sean Peyton
*A vision like Jimmy who brought in Busloads of players and worked hard to find diamonds among the heaps of coal.
*An owner like Kraft who knows his job well enough to let a talented and ruthless coach coach his team.
*Fans who DEMAND (talking 80,000 paper bags!) one lousy Super Bowl in 26 years.
*The guts to kick Zeke into high gear.
*The honesty to realistically assess players in public the way Jimmy did. None of this he's has passion, a work ethic and a team player sheet.
...
My, the things I write.
(Hitching up me pants and sweating) Don't get me started on the cushy life of the Dallas Cowboys!

 

[Bullflop]

I'll admit to not being overly excited over the idea of making Noah Brown an important cog in the Dallas offense in 2022. If the talents available for showing something better in TC and beyond make their presence more known, it won't hurt my feelings to see him used as he's been in the past. Something may or may not, occur to relegate Brown to the role he's had in years past. Let's see if anyone new steps up to display their participation being preferable.

 

[Pass2Run]

Bum Brown

The dude really can block. And does do a good job on ST, as many have pointed out.

I don't see him as a bum. I actually like him. I like the other guys on the roster, too, though.

Fair enough. It's not uncommon for even a good player to get moved. I'm not a big fan of using money to cheer or boo a player...but I get the reality of it.

Same here. I don't like using a player's contract to determine whether I like them or not.

For instance, Zeke. I totally agree he's overpaid. But we made that bed, so we have to sleep in it. He's still a good player, in my mind.

 

[Pass2Run]

You and Jerry believe, unfortunately, in hanging on to players for 5-8 years before admitting defeat.
Brown is heading into his 5th year as a JAG.
He should be a star in the CFL or Texas Macho League.
Move on, me boys, move on when the old lorry won't turn over and its tires are wobbly.

I see you've got some pep your step, ole buddy.

Good to see.

 

[Mannix]

I don;t think you can make this catch without some talent:



That was the night he scored 4 tds:



We're looking for redzone production and they have him on special teams? What in the entire ______.

I can;t find the highlights I want...but here's one: Note at 3:00...I mean that is a solid move even at NCAA level.



The guy knows how to play ...especially at the goal line. PURE mismanagement by Dallas. As usual. They can't even manage Zeke's breathers...zeke has to tell them when. STUPID!

Needs reps and NFL confidence. Can;t get that in spotty half-baked playing time.

Stop it...he hit his ceiling year ONE....who cares about these clips...he's not done ONE thing as a Cowboy to make me pop up off the sofa. He has had 5 years to earn reps!!! We can find someone else cheaper who can "block" 3-4 plays per game...and may turn out to not be JAG.

 

[glimmerman]

He has a lot to prove to me. Maybe it’s just me but I am not impressed.. He has never scored a TD but sure saw him drop a very easy pitch to him.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dear Stevio, you are correct for once in your flailing tenure at CZ.
But...
Right you are toff. Right you are.

Get Brown on another team that sets a low bar!
And:
Players do love the lush, cushy life at the Ranch.

They luv their contracts for life and for what? Starring on 9-8 teams that stumble in the first round or never play postseason.

You have heard it before: Little accountability.

I would luv for Fat Mac to have a
*Personality/discipline of Jimmy.
*Brains like Kyle Shanahan (since 2017) or Sean Peyton
*A vision like Jimmy who brought in Busloads of players and worked hard to find diamonds among the heaps of coal.
*An owner like Kraft who knows his job well enough to let a talented and ruthless coach coach his team.
*Fans who DEMAND (talking 80,000 paper bags!) one lousy Super Bowl in 26 years.
*The guts to kick Zeke into high gear.
*The honesty to realistically assess players in public the way Jimmy did. None of this he's has passion, a work ethic and a team player sheet.
...
My, the things I write.
(Hitching up me pants and sweating) Don't get me started on the cushy life of the Dallas Cowboys!

Wow....a compliment. Hmmm.

 

[Jarntt]

Browns potential issue to make the 53 this year is that unlike in recent years where the top 3 or 4 was set and we had little need for a #5 WR to be a part of the passing offense, this year with Cooper gone and Gallup not ready to start the year, receiving ability trumps blocking and STs and especially early on. I mean look at all the people writing in a 3rd round rookie WR as a week one starter. That is not a definite. Even if Tolbert (whose best games last year were against Georgia Southern and Louisiana Monroe) is a future starter it doesn't mean he will be ready week 1 of his rookie year. Nor is Washington being able to do the job a definite. So not only are we in desperate need of a #2 and #3 WR to be an asset in the passing game week 1, but there is a chance we bring in a veteran to fill that role who isn't even yet on the team. I'd say it's around 50/50 at best for Brown right now.

 

[Pass2Run]

Browns potential issue to make the 53 this year is that unlike in recent years where the top 3 or 4 was set and we had little need for a #5 WR to be a part of the passing offense, this year with Cooper gone and Gallup not ready to start the year, receiving ability trumps blocking and STs and especially early on. I mean look at all the people writing in a 3rd round rookie WR as a week one starter. That is not a definite. Even if Tolbert (whose best game last year was against Louisiana Monroe) is a future starter it doesn't mean he will be ready week 1 of his rookie year. Nor is Washington being able to do the job a definite. So not only are we in desperate need of a #2 and #3 WR to be an asset in the passing game week 1, but there is a chance we bring in a veteran to fill that role who isn't even yet on the team. I'd say it's around 50/50 at best for Brown right now.

I'm hoping Fehoko learns how to block. If so, then he has a little more upside, imo. I think he could be our next Miles Austin. Guy has to want it, though. Austin worked his butt off to become a starter.

 

[quickccc]

Brown should make the 53 easily. Who will push him? Fehoko and Vasher will need a heck of a TC to do so. Fehoko was pretty much inactive all of last year, and we yet to see Vasher.
But yet many fans, as usual, will over rate all the UDFA WR's. Especially if one shines in PS games against 3rd and 4th team players.
Who knows, maybe Brown passes Washington, or Fehoko and / or Vasher look great and replace Brown. This will be an interesting TC to see.

Garrett and Linehan, and even Moore has not utilized Brown as a WR as they should. But with talent ahead of him, that is understandable.
I don't get the hate or dislike that many have against Brown. Then again our pro bowl players get hated on as well.

Lamb, Gallup, Washington, Tolbert ar ether top 4, and Brown being #5. Which he will be #4 until Gallup returns. Fehoko and Vasher probably 5th and 6th until Gallup returns.
There are no other WR's on the roster that can push any of them, until we actually see them on the field.
Brandon Smith showed a few good signs last year in PS games though.

- Noah will "easily" make the 53 roster, because there must be something he does that's so exceptional on special teams that SP coaches just adore to the heavens.
and think they'd be so pressed to find elsewhere from other players. Is he a protection blocker for punts, extra points, FGs ?

- He's not a gunner coverage guy like CJ Goodwin is, .. or like ex-Cowboys Malik Turner was, .. nor do i see him trying to be a punt blocker as we saw from
Luke Gifford, Corey Fleming, etc.
Because as a WR, i just don't see anything special that warrants reserving another WR spot for him. He's not a separation guy,
he's purely a 8-10 yard short area type.

- He's never gonna be a vertical threat downfield or an open field run after catch , he has just decent hands.
He can certainly block (which is an issue with our WRs overall too) but when he's in that often, that's could be a giveaway, plus you like to have a receiver threat first most.
There's no ceiling or potential with him, and he's limited. But i think he offers far more value and worth as a special teams guy.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Stop it...he hit his ceiling year ONE....who cares about these clips...he's not done ONE thing as a Cowboy to make me pop up off the sofa. He has had 5 years to earn reps!!! We can find someone else cheaper who can "block" 3-4 plays per game...and may turn out to not be JAG.

If you are telling me to stop cheering on a cowboys player....hoping for their success....not gonna happen.
I dont think brown will set the world on fire....but if you watch the clips (you didnt) you see he has very good red zone goal line skills.
When did you see him being used there? Even quickcc observed hes a pure 8-10 yard guy. So why dont we put that big body down there?

Mismanagement.

 

[quickccc]

I'm hoping Fehoko learns how to block. If so, then he has a little more upside, imo. I think he could be our next Miles Austin. Guy has to want it, though. Austin worked his butt off to become a starter.

Miles Austin had fluid agility, change of direction and open field run skills, i haven't seen that from Simi yet.
His lack of fluidity is what has me most concerned about him. I haven't seen natural movement
You know the club loves his size/speed ratio ,he's a physical specimen, but I'm skeptical that he is just a straight line guy.

I'm sure the coaching staff is really working with him with agility drills, routes and release techniques.
And I'm glad that any talk of converting him to TE seems to be over.

 

[Scotman]

I would love to see Brown successfully step into a larger role. We really need a WR to take some of the receptions that Gallup would have made at the beginning of this year. Brown was always intriguing because of his size.

I think he makes the roster easily this year. BUT, if he doesn't really do something with the opportunity this year, I think it's equally as likely that he doesn't make the roster next year.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Brown is a lock to make the roster for one simple reason. Besides Lamb, he's the only WR with experience in this system and with Dak. They do not want to start the season with only 1 experienced WR. All the Swiss army knife, ST or blocking talk is just lip service, after all this time the coaches know what he is, he's an end of the bench player that likely would have been churned if Gallup were healthy.

It's not his ability that's keeping him on the team, it's availability and circumstances. If Gallup comes back and stays healthy, it's probably 50/50 that Brown is on the team at the end of the season, even less if any of the new guys can produce.

 

[Pass2Run]

Miles Austin had fluid agility, change of direction and open field run skills, i haven't seen that from Simi yet.
His lack of fluidity is what has me most concerned about him. I haven't seen natural movement
You know the club loves his size/speed ratio ,he's a physical specimen, but I'm skeptical that he is just a straight line guy.

I'm sure the coaching staff is really working with him with agility drills, routes and release techniques.
And I'm glad that any talk of converting him to TE seems to be over.

100% agree he's not a TE, although he may get a few reps there. Fehoko is a little faster than Austin, IIRC. I think he can develop what he's missing. They need to focus on what he can do, and play to his strengths, avoid his weaknesses. He wasn't a bad route runner in college. I think part of what held him back last year was that we were so deep at the position. I think Fehoko was part of the reason they felt comfortable letting Turner, Wilson, Cooper walk. Had to be something other than money.

Plus, the people doubting Tolbert forget he was slated as a 2nd rounder. He fell mostly because of his small school status, and the fact this draft was so deep. In hindsight, I think Calvin Austin III is going to be a surprise. Dude can just play, despite his size. But I see Tolbert as the same kind of player. When I was doing my armchair player evaluations, I sometimes thought Tolbert may be the best WR in the draft. I know I'll likely get bashed for saying that, and I could be wrong. But that was my thought before we drafted him. He really is a good player. Hope he goes out there and shines.

I also like Washington, and several other UDFA guys. I think my least favorite is TJ Vasher. But maybe others see something I'm missing on him . . . wouldn't be the first time that happened.

Brown is a lock to make the roster for one simple reason. Besides Lamb, he's the only WR with experience in this system and with Dak. They do not want to start the season with only 1 experienced WR. All the Swiss army knife, ST or blocking talk is just lip service, after all this time the coaches know what he is, he's an end of the bench player that likely would have been churned if Gallup were healthy.

It's not his ability that's keeping him on the team, it's availability and circumstances. If Gallup comes back and stays healthy, it's probably 50/50 that Brown is on the team at the end of the season, even less if any of the new guys can produce.

I actually hope he makes this team. I would like to see him step up his game.

To be fair, he doesn't get a lot of opportunities. So maybe that's all he needs. Maybe sometime during the season next year I'll be eating my words on this whole post.

I do see a lot of talent in our UDFA WRs.. more than most years.

We let three pretty good WRs walk, so there has to be something to that.

 

[stilltheguru]

The dude really can block. And does do a good job on ST, as many have pointed out.

I don't see him as a bum. I actually like him. I like the other guys on the roster, too, though.




Same here. I don't like using a player's contract to determine whether I like them or not.

For instance, Zeke. I totally agree he's overpaid. But we made that bed, so we have to sleep in it. He's still a good player, in my mind.

Lol if yall tell me about his blocking one more time

 

[Roadtrip635]

100% agree he's not a TE, although he may get a few reps there. Fehoko is a little faster than Austin, IIRC. I think he can develop what he's missing. They need to focus on what he can do, and play to his strengths, avoid his weaknesses. He wasn't a bad route runner in college. I think part of what held him back last year was that we were so deep at the position. I think Fehoko was part of the reason they felt comfortable letting Turner, Wilson, Cooper walk. Had to be something other than money.

Plus, the people doubting Tolbert forget he was slated as a 2nd rounder. He fell mostly because of his small school status, and the fact this draft was so deep. In hindsight, I think Calvin Austin III is going to be a surprise. Dude can just play, despite his size. But I see Tolbert as the same kind of player. When I was doing my armchair player evaluations, I sometimes thought Tolbert may be the best WR in the draft. I know I'll likely get bashed for saying that, and I could be wrong. But that was my thought before we drafted him. He really is a good player. Hope he goes out there and shines.

I also like Washington, and several other UDFA guys. I think my least favorite is TJ Vasher. But maybe others see something I'm missing on him . . . wouldn't be the first time that happened.




I actually hope he makes this team. I would like to see him step up his game.

To be fair, he doesn't get a lot of opportunities. So maybe that's all he needs. Maybe sometime during the season next year I'll be eating my words on this whole post.

I do see a lot of talent in our UDFA WRs.. more than most years.

We let three pretty good WRs walk, so there has to be something to that.

He's been on the team for 4 years, he's had his opportunity, he is what he is. Had Ced resigned, Brown would have been gone. Brown is just a placeholder until Gallup comes back and the new guys develop.

 

[Pass2Run]

He's been on the team for 4 years, he's had his opportunity, he is what he is. Had Ced resigned, Brown would have been gone. Brown is just a placeholder until Gallup comes back and the new guys develop.

Right. He's had a few opportunities.

Maybe not enough, though. When he does come in, he does what they ask him to do, and doesn't complain. So he's the proverbial RKG. Just hasn't contributed a whole lot in the passing game, which may be the coaches fault.

That said, I'm all for bringing in guys who can contribute more to the offense in the passing game.

 

[Mannix]

I'm hoping Fehoko learns how to block. If so, then he has a little more upside, imo. I think he could be our next Miles Austin. Guy has to want it, though. Austin worked his butt off to become a starter.
So are we going to overpay Fehoko too, after one good game in which the other team (KC) tackled like 5th graders? Austin absolutely stole money the last 2+ years in Dallas.