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Well let's look at this list, Rowdy.

The 2005 Bengals lost their QB in the playoffs. So this doesn't apply.

The 2014 Bengals, 1993 Dolphins didn't turn into one of the worst teams in the league.

I didn't realize the 2005 Jets, 2012 Commanders, 2010 Cowboys, 1999 49ers and 2011 Colts were stacked teams.

The 2008 Patriots, an actual stacked team, went 11-5 without their QB.

I guess the one example on that competlely irrelevant list you cling to might be the 2003 Falcons and even that's a stretch.

No quality "stacked" team turns into a team competing for the 1st pick in the draft by losing their QB, lead WR and a slot CB. That's complete and total fan nonsense. You have other issues on your roster for that to happen.

Our talent has always been very overrated.

You didn't address several of the examples for a good reason. Also, the point I was making is that losing key players can ruin a season. Did these teams have exactly the same record as us? No. Of course not and they didn't need to have the same record to make the point. None of them lost 3 key starters either. So if they had maybe they would've matched us.

Stacked teams? Can you quantify that for me? That is another poor attempt by you to evaluate a team.
These were all good teams with promising seasons ruined by injuries. It can't be explained any more clearly.

Let's try some other sports. Remember when the Heat went to the finals every year? Well now the Cavs do. Do you know why? Please lecture me with your wonderful attempt at clever sarcasm about how that's a different sport. No ####. The point is still valid. Superstars are important to winning.

Remove Harper and Strasburg from the Nats and they wouldn't be on first place. There are countless examples in all sports. I could site more but, you'd ignore them and address the few that suited your foolish position.

Also, Scandrick is our "slot receiver"??? Silly characterization that misrepresents what he is to this team. He is clearly our best corner.

Some other things you like to say a lot is "your fandom" or "go cowboys" or calling people Rowdy. Sometimes you do make clever points--these aren't.
Let me guess. You're above your fandom clouding your judgement. That's so admirable and really awesome.

Didn't you said earlier in the year you'd say if you thought we were a good team after the draft?
Well, we are one of the worst teams in the league and I can't imagine Zeke could've improved our team that much so what is it 6-10?
 

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Well let's look at this list, Rowdy.

The 2005 Bengals lost their QB in the playoffs. So this doesn't apply.

The 2014 Bengals, 1993 Dolphins didn't turn into one of the worst teams in the league.

I didn't realize the 2005 Jets, 2012 Commanders, 2010 Cowboys, 1999 49ers and 2011 Colts were stacked teams.

The 2008 Patriots, an actual stacked team, went 11-5 without their QB.

I guess the one example on that competlely irrelevant list you cling to might be the 2003 Falcons and even that's a stretch.

No quality "stacked" team turns into a team competing for the 1st pick in the draft by losing their QB, lead WR and a slot CB. That's complete and total fan nonsense. You have other issues on your roster for that to happen.

Our talent has always been very overrated.

I'll add, the "our talent has ALWAYS been overrated" comment is revealing.
 

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Well let's look at this list, Rowdy.

The 2005 Bengals lost their QB in the playoffs. So this doesn't apply.

The 2014 Bengals, 1993 Dolphins didn't turn into one of the worst teams in the league.

I didn't realize the 2005 Jets, 2012 Commanders, 2010 Cowboys, 1999 49ers and 2011 Colts were stacked teams.

The 2008 Patriots, an actual stacked team, went 11-5 without their QB.

I guess the one example on that competlely irrelevant list you cling to might be the 2003 Falcons and even that's a stretch.

No quality "stacked" team turns into a team competing for the 1st pick in the draft by losing their QB, lead WR and a slot CB. That's complete and total fan nonsense. You have other issues on your roster for that to happen.

Our talent has always been very overrated.

Only partially true. You cannot win in this league without a QB and we had totally ineffectual backups as well. That doesn't mean there are not other issues that are important. But the QB issues/lack of offense trumps the talent deficit overall and deficits per unit as well as all the other problems. That offense was capable of 30+PPG and we scored 17 PPG. You don't overcome that with coaching or other units holding the fort.

That's the bottom line.
 

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Lots of good nuggets there. Great news about Claiborne. I look forward to seeing him excel if what they are saying about him is true. I also hope the hype here on Brice Butler is real. I would love to see him catch a 30 yard bullet in full stride and then take it to the house. The Oline being solid at all 5 positions is cause to by excited. Romo's back being another year removed from injury is good. I didn't expect to hear what they said about Dak being ahead of where they thought he would be. Sounds like the competition for the 2QB job will be steep. Who doesn't love that?
 

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I remember thinking when we made the 4th pick in the draft weeks ago that this team is so stacked.

Enjoy it, bro. It's a special time to be a Cowboys fan.

that was a fluke. the cowboys aren't the most stacked team in the league by any stretch of the imagination, but they're not a 4-12 team, either. there's reason to be optimistic -- i'm not saying unrealistic -- about this team's chances for 2016.
 

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You didn't address several of the examples for a good reason.

I addressed all 10 and none of them are like the Cowboys.

Also, the point I was making is that losing key players can ruin a season. Did these teams have exactly the same record as us? No. Of course not and they didn't need to have the same record to make the point. None of them lost 3 key starters either. So if they had maybe they would've matched us.

Your point? You had none. The most frequent window licking fan of this sport knows losing your QB dooms a season. What it doesn't do though is turn a "stacked" team into a contender for the top pick in the draft. Even with also losing your #1 WR and a slot CB.

It's your type of Joe Fan nonsense mindset that keep this team in denial. That this team is Super Bowl worthy but we just didn't have any luck last year. Like the year before that and the decade before. You have other issues on your roster than an injured QB, WR and CB if you're winning 4 games and picking 4th in the draft.
 

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I addressed all 10 and none of them are like the Cowboys.



Your point? You had none. The most frequent window licking fan of this sport knows losing your QB dooms a season. What it doesn't do though is turn a "stacked" team into a contender for the top pick in the draft. Even with also losing your #1 WR and a slot CB.

It's your type of Joe Fan nonsense mindset that keep this team in denial. That this team is Super Bowl worthy but we just didn't have any luck last year. Like the year before that and the decade before. You have other issues on your roster than an injured QB, WR and CB if you're winning 4 games and picking 4th in the draft.

My "fan mindset" keeps this team in denial ?


That's easily the stupidest thing you've said in this back and forth and that's saying a lot.

No you didn't address several of those examples. There were two links full of them. I also gave you more examples from other sports. But whatever.

You say we're a terrible team so just drafting a couple of players won't change that. Guess we'll see who's right and who's in denial and a baby that wants his team to have everything. Similar to a toddler's attitude.
 

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My "fan mindset" keeps this team in denial ?

No. Your mindset is shared by the front office, which isn't surprising with most fans, and that mindset has kept this team in denial.

You say we're a terrible team so just drafting a couple of players won't change that. Guess we'll see who's right and who's in denial and a baby that wants his team to have everything. Similar to a toddler's attitude.

Well I don't think you have to be much older than a toddler to read and comprehend. Show me where I said they were a terrible team. Bet you can't. What I actually said is we aren't a stacked team who would have done anything if not for the bad luck. A Super Bowl contending team doesn't fold up and win 4 games under that same scenario.

Anyone who chalks up 4-12 as just a product of some injuries is foolish.
 

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No. Your mindset is shared by the front office, which isn't surprising with most fans, and that mindset has kept this team in denial.



Well I don't think you have to be much older than a toddler to read and comprehend. Show me where I said they were a terrible team. Bet you can't. What I actually said is we aren't a stacked team who would have done anything if not for the bad luck. A Super Bowl contending team doesn't fold up and win 4 games under that same scenario.

Anyone who chalks up 4-12 as just a product of some injuries is foolish.

Well, can you help me understand just how bad you think we are?

I'm sure you understand that we were one bad fumble and a questionable call away from the NFC championship the year before. So a reasonable person would have to conclude we were in contention for the super bowl. Then the next year we lost three starters including our QB. We became a 4-12 team. We were 3-1 with our starting QB. That's not bad. Draw what conclusions you like. We are a contender and stacked on offense. Very few teams, if any, are stacked on both sides of the ball.

The I'll go back to my original point that upset you-

We are a very good team and this will upset some.

You will accept that we are a very good team.

Maybe it's the negativity of the fans that has affected this front office rather then the denial. Negativity, or whatever clever euphemism you have for it can permeate a team and front office.
 
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Well, can you help me understand just how bad you think we are?

I'm sure you understand that we were one bad fumble and a questionable call away from the NFC championship the year before. So a reasonable person would have to conclude we were in contention for the super bowl. Then the next year we lost three starters including our QB. We became a 4-12 team. We were 3-1 with our starting QB. That's not bad. Draw what conclusions you like. We are a contender and stacked on offense. Very few teams, if any, are stacked on both sides of the ball.

The I'll go back to my original point that upset you-

We are a very good team and this will upset some.

You will accept that we are a very good team.

Maybe it's the negativity of the fans that has affected this front office rather then the denial. Negativity, or whatever clever euphemism you have for it can permeate a team and front office.

So now we're just stacked on offense. The goal posts. They are a moving.

This team has competed one season in the last several. Yet you take that season as what they are and flush the multiple seasons as what they aren't. Because you're a Joe Fan who says nonsensical things like a 4-12 team is stacked.

I think they're an average team in a bad league. Good enough to compete for a playoff spot with some good luck and a top 10 pick in the draft with some bad luck. That's what I think.
 

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I remember thinking when we made the 4th pick in the draft weeks ago that this team is so stacked.

Enjoy it, bro. It's a special time to be a Cowboys fan.

LOL, Every year, this time of the year it's "special to be a Cowboys fan". Hey they are healthy and undefeated right now. After we're half way through this coming season, we'll see how special this team is and I hope for once (or twice) in the past 20 years, they are right.
 

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LOL, Every year, this time of the year it's "special to be a Cowboys fan". Hey they are healthy and undefeated right now. After we're half way through this coming season, we'll see how special this team is and I hope for once (or twice) in the past 20 years, they are right.

Scary to think there are people who can watch that mess last year and think if we just stayed healthy we could have made a run.
 
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