Bush(Dorsett) or Young(Staubach) or Leinhart(Aikman)...

TwoCentPlain · Jan 9, 2006

Say you are visited by a draft prophet (not Mel Kiper) and he tells you that Bush is actually Dorsett reincarnated, Young is Staubach reincarnated, and Leinhart is Aikman reincarnated. The prophet also tells you that all 3 will be hall of famers. You are on the clock and have 15 minutes. Who do you choose?

Bush reminds me so much of Dorsett as a college RB. I never saw Staubach play at Navy. Any Young vs. Staubach comparisons? How about Aikman vs. Leinhart comparisons? I didn't see Aikman much in college.

How do you think Bush, Young and Leinhart will compare to Dorsett, Staubach, and Aikman 10 years from now?

jterrell · Jan 9, 2006

If I knew that I'd take Young hands down.

The Young-Staubach comparison seems to make some sense on the collegiate level where both willed teams to victory.

joseephuss · Jan 9, 2006

I take Staubach. I don't think Young is Staubach, but that is whay you are saying in your scenario.
Staubach was a very good passer and a leader. If need be, he could make plays by scrambling or evening running down field. Smart guy with a winners mentality.

I rate QBs slightly higher than RBs. That is why I don't choose Dorsett over Staubach.

I think Staubach brings more intangibles than Aikman, who is very good.

Based on this fantasy, it is an easy pick for me. Now if we could only make fantasy a reality. Unfortunatly, we can't predict how any of these guys will turn out.

Alexander · Jan 9, 2006

I really liked Tony D, but he wasn't as vital as the other two you mentioned. If you said Bush was the next Emmitt Smith, then the choice would be much more difficult. That being said, I get in line with the Leinhart sheeple.

Zaxor · Jan 9, 2006

joseephuss said:
I take Staubach. I don't think Young is Staubach, but that is whay you are saying in your scenario.
Staubach was a very good passer and a leader. If need be, he could make plays by scrambling or evening running down field. Smart guy with a winners mentality.

I rate QBs slightly higher than RBs. That is why I don't choose Dorsett over Staubach.

I think Staubach brings more intangibles than Aikman, who is very good.

Based on this fantasy, it is an easy pick for me. Now if we could only make fantasy a reality. Unfortunatly, we can't predict how any of these guys will turn out.

Agreed I would take Staubach but Vince Young is not Staubach...even in a dream world

Jarv · Jan 9, 2006

Zaxor said:
Agreed I would take Staubach but Vince Young is not Staubach...even in a dream world

Ouch, what a sig line there bro...

TwoCentPlain · Jan 9, 2006

Jarv,
I take it that you have seen Staubach play at Navy and have a great memory and are an expert in this area. Could you compare their college careers in a little more detail?

Cowboy Junkie · Jan 9, 2006

In my opinion

Bush = Warrick Dunn
Young = Donavan Mcnabb
Leinhart = Ryan Leaf

Out of Dorsett , Staubach and Aikman .
I take Aikman....

joseephuss · Jan 9, 2006

leonargized said:
In my opinion

Bush = Warrick Dunn
Young = Donavan Mcnabb
Leinhart = Ryan Leaf

Out of Dorsett , Staubach and Aikman .
I take Aikman....

Ouch! Ryan Leaf comparisons. That may be a little overboard. I think Leinart has some weaknesses, but no way he has Leaf's attitude problems. That alone makes him a better QB prospect. Leaf could still be a back up in the league if he didn't have that me first, me only, arrogant sense of entitlement attitude. His last name may as well be Hambrick.

WV Cowboy · Jan 9, 2006

If I'm choosing for the Cowboys, I take Young or Leinhart because we have two decent young backs, but no QB for the future.

If you want to see someone to compare to Tony D., check out Steve Slaton for the West Virginia Mountaineers.

He moves and glides like Tony, and when he finds some daylight, ... he is gone, nobody catches him.

Just like TD.

Cowboy Junkie · Jan 9, 2006

joseephuss said:
Ouch! Ryan Leaf comparisons. That may be a little overboard. I think Leinart has some weaknesses, but no way he has Leaf's attitude problems. That alone makes him a better QB prospect. Leaf could still be a back up in the league if he didn't have that me first, me only, arrogant sense of entitlement attitude. His last name may as well be Hambrick.

In the interview after the game.
Leinhart said " We would have one if the defense could just tackle"
" We are the better team "
" They just made a couple big plays"
" Our offense played great , couldnt have played any better"

ABQCOWBOY · Jan 9, 2006

I don't think Young is Staubach. I see more cunningham in him.

I don't think Bush is Dorsett. Whomever compared him to Sayers knew what they were talking about.

Leinart is not Aikman, no how, no way. Leinart reminds me of Harrington.

RCowboyFan · Jan 9, 2006

ABQCOWBOY said:
I don't think Young is Staubach. I see more cunningham in him.

I don't think Bush is Dorsett. Whomever compared him to Sayers knew what they were talking about.

Leinart is not Aikman, no how, no way. Leinart reminds me of Harrington.

Agree more closer comparison maybe. Cause, Leinart reminds me more of Danny Awful, with regards to arm and brains. Danny was a great College QB, that never got translated to NFL because of Arm Strength. Leinart probably has stronger arm than Danny most likely, so Harrington in terms of arm strength might be more apt, but I still think Harrington has better arm than Leinart.

Anyway, I haven't been sold on Matt even after last year Oklahoma game, where I saw the Arm strength issues. I think he has to be in classic WCO to be sucessful in NFL.

joseephuss · Jan 9, 2006

leonargized said:
In the interview after the game.
Leinhart said " We would have one if the defense could just tackle"
" We are the better team "
" They just made a couple big plays"
" Our offense played great , couldnt have played any better"

That just shows that Leinart is cocky and maybe needs to learn to filter what he says right after a big game ends. A lot of guys are cocky. Vince Young thought he should have one the Heisman and kind of threw a hissy fit because he didn't win. I won't hold that against either guys because both have shown they are willing to work hard to improve.

Leaf didn't work out or study film. That is the difference in attitude that I am talking about. Leaf thought he could just show up and be good. He thought he was so good, that he didn't need to make any effort and he would still be successful. Everything I heard is that Leinart works hard.

RCowboyFan · Jan 9, 2006

joseephuss said:
That just shows that Leinart is cocky and maybe needs to learn to filter what he says right after a big game ends. A lot of guys are cocky. Vince Young thought he should have one the Heisman and kind of threw a hissy fit because he didn't win. I won't hold that against either guys because both have shown they are willing to work hard to improve.

Leaf didn't work out or study film. That is the difference in attitude that I am talking about. Leaf thought he could just show up and be good. He thought he was so good, that he didn't need to make any effort and he would still be successful. Everything I heard is that Leinart works hard.

Well he better be, since he doesn't have the natural ability like Leaf had. But I agree, Leaf comparison is bit rediculous. Leaf was different kind of head case.

Leinart did sound bit idiotic with his statements and like real sour loser. But thats not even close to how Ryan Leaf sounded when he was yelling at fans and reporters in San Deigo.

Cowboy Junkie · Jan 9, 2006

For me , Leinhart staying in school was a bit immature....He had already graduated and I am all for that , but to come back and take ball room dancing just because he was in a safe place...
Now I am not saying this made him a bad guy , but he went back to school after he already accomplished everything he could .....
For me this was the beginning of my thought process and after the Texas game it just recommfirmed what I already had in the back of my mind...

The guy already graduated and he already won the most coveted college award and championship to boot.....

If he says Well i want to make history well then I say take a challenge and dont hide behind ball room dancing.....

goshan · Jan 9, 2006

Young is not at all like McNabb. He is much closer to Randall Cunningham.
And Bush is nothing like Warrick Dunn.

Zaxor · Jan 9, 2006

Jarv said:
Ouch, what a sig line there bro...

there is tons of pics of Bledsoe out there doing this kind of thing...

I mean don't blame me I didn't tell him to fumble the ball

The30YardSlant · Jan 9, 2006

Vince Young:

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/img/photo/01-05/rosebowl1.jpg

Roger Staubach:

Forgive me for not seeing the resemblence

Cowboy Junkie · Jan 9, 2006

goshan said:
Young is not at all like McNabb. He is much closer to Randall Cunningham.
And Bush is nothing like Warrick Dunn.

McNabb did the same kind of things as Young while he was at Syracuse ....

He did not have as good a supporting cast as Young ,
but Syracuse with not a very good football team did very good things...

When Mcnabb played at Syracuse I lived in the NOrth East , so I got the chance to see him play there often.

Big guy , speed , leader with a great arm ....Where the big difference?

Bush(Dorsett) or Young(Staubach) or Leinhart(Aikman)...

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