CrazyCowboy
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How did Vick make #50?
burmafrd;1362993 said:I think you need to weight WHICH games are won and lost. Playoff, championship games need to be double or triple the value of a regular season game. If you did that, these results would be more correct.
Also- a QB should be weighted negatively when his stats in playoff and championship games are WORSE then regular season games; conversely, if he does BETTER in playoff games that should be emphasized as well.
fiveandcounting;1363014 said:youre getting alot of criticism on this thread. Could you reveal your process more. Is it a purely mathmatical process? If so how do you quatify leadership? Is it a mix of stats plus your perceptions of things that dont have a stat?
lurkercowboy;1363026 said:I think the football world needs a list like this. Some formula to determine the best QB. Of course it won't settle anything, but it gives fans something to argue about. Can we see the formula you used?
I always knew Staubach was the best Dallas QB.
gollum;1363074 said:No Dan Fouts???
THUMPER;1362802 said:I have finally updated my QB Rating spreadsheet using my own statistical rating system that takes several factors into account including wins, losses, and leadership. It favors guys who won.
I'd like to factor in fumbles and fumbles lost but I don't have those stats for most of these guys. I would also like to factor in playoff wins and championships won but that would mean a lot more calculations, still I may add it in someday when I get the time.
I use a minimum of 15000 yards except in certain cases where a QB is still playing and is either close (Vick) or well on his way (Palmer).
The results are not necessarily reflective of which QB is better than another (although Graham is #1 in my opinion anyway) but shows the efficiency and success of each QB.
Here are the top-50 (there are 127 total):
1. OTTO GRAHAM
2. JOE MONTANA
3. TOM BRADY
4. ROGER STAUBACH
5. PEYTON MANNING
6. STEVE YOUNG
7. JOHN ELWAY
8 SID LUCKMAN
9. MARC BULGER
10. DONOVAN McNABB
11. KURT WARNER
12. BART STARR
13. BRETT FAVRE
14. DAN MARINO
15. JOHNNY UNITAS
16. JIM KELLY
17. DARYL LAMONICA
18 TROY AIKMAN
19. DANNY WHITE
20. JAKE DELHOMME
21. CARSON PALMER
22. TERRY BRADSHAW
23. STEVE McNAIR
24. LEN DAWSON
25. JIM McMAHON
26. JOE THEISMANN
27. BOB GRIESE
28. KENNY STABLER
29. PHIL SIMMS
30. FRANK RYAN
31. MATT HASSELBECK
32. RICH GANNON
33. RANDALL CUNNINGHAM
34. KEN ANDERSON
35. DREW BREES
36. NEIL O'DONNELL
37. BRAD JOHNSON
38, NORM VAN BROCKLIN
39. CHAD PENNINGTON
40. DAVE KRIEG
41. ELVIS GRBAC
42. FRAN TARKENTON
43. WARREN MOON
44. MARK RYPIEN
45. MARK BRUNELL
46. STAN HUMPHRIES
47. BRIAN GRIESE
48. TRENT GREEN
49. MILT PLUM
50. MICHAEL VICK
THUMPER;1362802 said:The results are not necessarily reflective of which QB is better than another (although Graham is #1 in my opinion anyway) but shows the efficiency and success of each QB.