Bygones and buried hatchets

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Jimmy and Jerry were both involved in bad-mouthing each other before their separation occurred. Let's not indulge in revisionist history. That entire situation is in the past and both parties put it aside during Jerry's day in the limelight. Let it go, once and for all -- it's over and has been for many years. I'm just glad to see that they're getting along better now.
To be clear, football didn't put Jerry in the Hall yesterday. Turning 31 other millionaires into multi-billionaires did. The rest of it is trivial in comparison.
 

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Oops, I intended to quote MissAnn.

The conversation that I had with her was probably one where she mistakenly thought I was either you or diehard blues. She just about drove me crazy by attributing posts to me that I hadn't made. She also had one with diehard blues that she likely attributed to me. I tried in vain to convince her that she had the wrong poster in mind but she couldn't seem to get it straight. Poor thing -- now, she has me on ignore 'cause she thinks I'm a macho man! She's new here, so I can see why that might have happened. ;)
 
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Oops, I intended to quote MissAnn.
Deviant, is the compulsion to repeat sexual crimes - as to Jerry, stereotypes then set aside, merit about other areas of involvement ARE debatable as well as discussable. Not matter how many back slaps are offered by other deviants.:)

Still have a compulsion? You have a right to a view, but a justification is still on the table.

In my book, Jerry gets the credit for a hell of a lot more...whether you see fit or not.

That is, unless one hides behind a self justification for denial.
 

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Deviant, is the compulsion to repeat sexual crimes - as to Jerry, stereotypes then set aside, merit about other areas of involvement ARE debatable as well as discussable. Not matter how many back slaps are offered by other deviants.:)

Still have a compulsion?
Wow.

Yeah, you should probably see someone about that.
 

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Wow.

Yeah, you should probably see someone about that.

No, you hit a stereotype head on, as to what YOU were offering...and a ton of vanity as well. That was based upon law and the psychology behind it...get educated, maybe.:)

Catch up with the added discussion...or better yet remain biased and slanderous.

This is a great day for the Cowboys, family, and many more.
 

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No, you hit a stereotype head on, as to what YOU were offering...and a ton of vanity as well. That was based upon law and the psychology behind it...get educated, maybe.:)

It's like you're reciting text bits from a month's worth of acid trips.

Get your thoughts together in a cohesive and cogent form, and perhaps we can have a discussion.

And I assure you, my summa cum laude education can more than follow along.
 

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It's like you're reciting text bits from a month's worth of acid trips.

Get your thoughts together in a cohesive and cogent form, and perhaps we can have a discussion.

And I assure you, my summa cum laude education can more than follow along.

Keep your insults to yourself...I'll keep up with own thoughts, thank you. You are full of stereotypes, little real discussion, and arrogant bull.

I'll stick to my own thoughts and really don't have to justify them for your sense of amusement.

And on topic, Jerry IS a football person, Stud!

You and Bullflop should line up on each other, and unlike football, just belly bump...
 

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Keep your insults to yourself...I'll keep up with own thoughts, thank you. You are full of stereotypes, little real discussion, and arrogant bull.

I'll stick to my own thoughts and really don't have to justify them for your sense of amusement.

And on topic, Jerry IS a football person, Stud!
You insult me first, then tell me to keep my insults to myself. Do you read what you write?

I wrote the OP. Do you have any thoughts about it to discuss?
 

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OMG what a pansy. Who would waste that much time dwelling over Jerry Jones.
 

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OMG what a pansy. Who would waste that much time dwelling over Jerry Jones.
Are you really that much of a jerk? He was just put into the Hall of Fame...or are you buying the song and dance that they are just a bunch of pansies?

Maybe another male ego tripper?
 

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This is the current status involving Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones:

"Just so we're clear, you know me: I want to make anything we do in that Ring of Honor—I want to make it have its own special attention, so I'm not going to get into that right now," he said, per Todd Archer of ESPN.com. "But I hope it was obvious up there how much I appreciated what Jimmy has contributed to the Cowboys [and] his, frankly, lifelong friendship.

"Our differences, while they were certainly visible and magnitude because of the nature of it, if you really look at our friendship over the years, there's just not that much to fuss about," he continued. "And so, it was pretty easy to reflect back on his contribution and what he meant."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...adding-jimmy-johnson-to-cowboys-ring-of-honor
 

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Allow me a therapeutic thread to hopefully start a healing process. I need to somewhat bury a weary hatchet. Let it go. Turn a tired page on a decades-long frustration with one of the most Jekyll-and-Hyde people to ever happen upon this earth.

Family can be damn hard to love, even if it's just "football family." But Thanksgivings and Christmases, weddings and funerals, there they are, always, nothing you can do about it. Always glad to see them, even more glad to see them leave. The feeling's likely mutual. Such is, family.

It's time, perhaps the perfect time, to extend a hug long overdue. I'm tired of carrying the weight and angst, especially when part of me can't help but love the man for so many good reasons, despite all the folly and foolishness. Like I said, Jekyll and Hyde.

The Cowboys will dance on our screens tonight for the first time in 2017, and Jerry Jones will be front and center of it all, no doubt. This is his week. Jerry's week. It's a culmination of perhaps the most amazing life of any Cowboy figure in franchise history. "Amazing" carries a lot of definition in all directions, you understand.

Jerry is a talented and passionate man, far more than most. Legendarily so. But he's also a flawed man, again more than most, and it's snagged and tugged at the fabric of this franchise, which until him, was known for the stoic and understated class of the Landry silhouette.

Jerry walked in the door, hung his hunting trophies all over Valley Ranch, and yee-hawed his way to every microphone and spotlight he could find. He hired Jimmy, then convinced himself he was a football man. Jimmy left, and Jerry took a two-handed stranglehold on this franchise, choking the life out of this storied team and all its glory for most of two decades.

I've sat red-faced, smiling impatiently through the confusing colloquialisms and national ridicule. I've paced the floor during his cringe-worthy binges on party and pride. Go home, Jerry, for God's sake. For their sake. Just stop.

I think, finally, he has. Jerry looks today a humbled man, forgiven for the unforgiveable by the people he loved and hurt the most. That's a family built on an undying faith and commitment to each other that reaches far deeper than its fortune and fame. He too often took it for granted, and I think he knows that deeply now.

Evident also is the humility and self-awareness he's conceded to running this team, as he's lightened his grip on the reins and allowed his capable kids and trusted circle a real voice and control beyond just suggestion. Jerry acquiesces now, often, which has changed the structure of football in Dallas in meaningful and positive ways.

Undeniably, through it all, the people around Jerry have always loved him. Family, friends, and even foes. It's palpable, not fabricated, and for very good reason.

There's a good side to Jerry. In fact, a wonderfully good side. He's real, and he honestly cares.

At the heart of this driven man, Jerry loves to elevate people. He wants to share in the success of the journey with those that couldn't get there without him. He wants to share in their joy, and console when they hurt. He feels their emotion as much as they do.

The countless stories of Jerry's gestures to folks in need or despair or loss are impossible to sum up in words. Even those with whom grudges remain. He's at his best when people need him most. That's who he really is when he gets out of his own way.

"Jerry loves people he doesn't even like," his daughter Charlotte has said on occasion with a chuckle. That's who he is behind it all, just a good ole boy never meaning no harm.

Jerry simply loves control, as control freaks tend to do. But his infliction isn't drawn from anything sinister, but rather just pure energy and drive. He wastes no daylight, even when he should, and he's perpetually in motion. That ethic is his greatest strength, and occasionally his Achilles heel.

The Hall of Fame called because Jerry's friends and foes across the league know he's made an impact they never will. They know the NFL has benefitted ten-fold from his presence, and the league will never see another one like him. Forget the football, Jerry is simply unforgettable. That alone makes him an all-timer. I once suggested this honor was unwarranted, but I've re-thought that opinion.

I'm tired of wrestling with my frustration with this man. If he can step back and reflect, then so should I. If the league can honor him for his strengths in spite of the other, then so can I. If his family can love and forgive him, than perhaps I can as well.

Congratulations, Jerry. I'm glad you're my owner after all. Finally.
E, this was gorgeous, my brother.

In a word, gorgeous. :star:
 

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You insult me first, then tell me to keep my insults to myself. Do you read what you write?

I wrote the OP. Do you have any thoughts about it to discuss?

Get your sequences straight first...and then act like you have walked away from what was stated in the OP...with a straight face. You were band wagon anti-Jerry in support of a view for my benefit, of not deserving a full consideration of his value. You giving praise or just burying as in Julius Caesar?

I added a perspective concerning Jimmy Johnson if YOU wish to again be current on issues...oh, and YES, Jerry is also a solid football man. By the way, care to join in on a discussion of comparable merit in Jerry's first year with a draft, last year's draft, and a consideration of the Super Bowl Offensive Coordinator and the one now in the position?

Conversation, or trying to blow smoke up a Lady's skirt?
 

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Get your sequences straight first...and then act like you have walked away from what was stated in the OP...with a straight face. You were band wagon anti-Jerry in support of a view for my benefit, of not deserving a full consideration of his value. You giving praise or just burying as in Julius Caesar?

I added a perspective concerning Jimmy Johnson if YOU wish to again be current on issues...oh, and YES, Jerry is also a solid football man. By the way, care to join in on a discussion of comparable merit in Jerry's first year with a draft, last year's draft, and a consideration of the Super Bowl Offensive Coordinator and the one now in the position?

Conversation, or trying to blow smoke up a Lady's skirt?
I am trying, I really am, to understand what you're trying to say and what your point actually is, but damned is I can figure it out.

I don't wish to offend, so I'll just bid you a good day.
 

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I am trying, I really am, to understand what you're trying to say and what your point actually is, but damned is I can figure it out.

I don't wish to offend, so I'll just bid you a good day.
That's being a gentlemen, fine then...and have a nice day as well.:)
 
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