Caleb Downs

[LouBrown]

Downs is the best football player in the draft. Not even close.

Doesn't matter.

If the best player in the draft was a kicker, would you take him in the first round?

 

[baltcowboy]

100%, some of the delusional comments and takes I was talking in OP are in this very thread

Probably the Bain truthers.

 

[baltcowboy]

Doesn't matter.

If the best player in the draft was a kicker, would you take him in the first round?

You consider kicker a football player.

 

[LouBrown]

You consider kicker a football player.

Good job ducking the question.

The point is that positional value matters. Safeties don't have positional value.

 

[baltcowboy]

Good job ducking the question.

The point is that positional value matters. Safeties don't have positional value.

Picking him at 12 would be well worth it. Walk in starter. Defensive version of Booker last year but better.

 

[LouBrown]

Picking him at 12 would be well worth it. Walk in starter. Defensive version of Booker last year but better.

Not really. Guards are far more valuable than safeties.

 

[tm1119]

Take it for what it’s worth, but the current Vegas betting line has Downs’ O/U draft slot at 9.5. I think the chances of Downs being available at 12 are higher than people think.
And if he’s there as 11 and Miami is fielding calls I’d happily do something like 12, 112, and 180 for 11 and 130 to move up the 1 spot to get Downs.

 

[cnuball21]

Picking him at 12 would be well worth it. Walk in starter. Defensive version of Booker last year but better.

I would argue Downs skill set is significantly if higher value than Booker / Guard.

I am still not happy about that pick lol.

 

[ratkinson]

Good job ducking the question.

The point is that positional value matters. Safeties don't have positional value.

The really good ones do

 

[gtb1943]

Not really. Guards are far more valuable than safeties.

wow, just wow
we had a Hall of Fame G playing for us and trash in the Safety position but you are happy about that

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not really. Guards are far more valuable than safeties.

I don’t know about that. Teams win with mediocre guards all the time.

 

[LouBrown]

I don’t know about that. Teams win with mediocre guards all the time.

They win with mediocre safeties...

 

[LouBrown]

wow, just wow
we had a Hall of Fame G playing for us and trash in the Safety position but you are happy about that

Not sure why it has to be one or the other?

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Is he really that good wow

 

[baltcowboy]

I would argue Downs skill set is significantly if higher value than Booker / Guard.

I am still not happy about that pick lol.

Don’t remind me about the Booker pick. Once again the Joneses panicked because the player they wanted didn’t fall to them. I think you could have gotten a Booker in the 20s, so they should have traded back or take guard later in the draft.

Booker played well but he is not a young Martin or Tyler Smith like the Cowboys media wants us to think. He will always be a high floor player.

 

[Vloh10]

If. Downs is the guy they really gotta have and he's on board at 9 still why not trade and move up to secure getting him. Losing him at 10 or 11 would hurt to much. And I hate having the thought of us having to use up other picks but I'm sure they get more info on what's needed to be done

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

l

They win with mediocre safeties...

Well tell you what let’s look at the champs….you think their safeties mediocre?

Those guards are the worst in the league.

 

[Mikexike]

He is a great player but I'm afraid he might end up in a bad situation wherever he lands.

 

[cnuball21]

Don’t remind me about the Booker pick. Once again the Joneses panicked because the player they wanted didn’t fall to them. I think you could have gotten a Booker in the 20s, so they should have traded back or take guard later in the draft.

Booker played well but he is not a young Martin or Tyler Smith like the Cowboys media wants us to think. He will always be a high floor player.

Booker was great, dont get me wrong, but the opportunity cost of what we could have had would have been way better in terms of value.

 

[ChuckA1]

For whatever reason in that thread I thought you were talking about trading up for a David Bailey type move. But yes I would do move up to 9 for 29

I don't think Downs is there for the Cowboys unless they trade up to 6.