Calling All Romo Haters

[KJJ]

You are correct and that is why I believe only the talent was Super Bowl quality.

The 07 team was a good route as opposed to a bad route (Patrick Crayton) away of appearing in a NFC championship game.

The 09 team was not a good route away, but they did win a Wild Card game, but got smashed in the equivalent 07 game. Not worth arguing either way though the end result was the same.

I will tell you what I believe and certainly would not argue the point but just throwing it out there.

In the first NFC championship game that Dallas played SF back in the 90s, Jimmy had thoroughly (IMO) prepared the Dallas Cowboys for that game...and the game ended up being a classic that Dallas won. Wade would not have had that team prepared and Dallas would have lost. Now you can't compare eras, quality of the Dallas Cowboys then and now nor you can you compare the quality of the opponent then and now...in all fairness.

However, I believe a quality coach such as Jimmy Johnson would have had Romo and the Cowboys better prepared than Wade Phillips and I truly believe the Cowboys would have been victorious. Of course this is all just speculation and I am not going to argue with anyone on the point.

However the point is quality coaching matters and that is more than just the actual Xs and Os during the game.

But internally for me, I believe coaching is not underrated and it matters. If Wade Phillips is good coach, Romo is a HOF lock.

Look, we disagree on virtually everything I'm not going to continue wasting my time this is going nowhere. QB's can be coach killers and one of the reasons Parcells probably stepped down from the Cowboys after the 06 season was he saw the warts Romo had. Parcells was aging and didn't want to have to deal with all Romo's ill timed mistakes he saw enough of them at the end of that season.

There's not much any coach can do with a gunslinging QB who has issues with decision making and ill timed turnovers. Once the ball is snapped it's in the QB's hands. We still see some of the same meltdown problems with Romo we saw in 06 it will not change he is what he is. Favre had the same ill timed turnover problem and 20 years in the league never changed it.

 

[DFWJC]

Actually, KJJ, I agree with some of your posts. Some of your oppositiondo go overboard, and off on tangents.

But just because you say you have stats that support your "facts" does not make it true. You spend a lot of time using selective stats to support your thoughts and then ignore the general stats that disprove it because your stats, of course, have more meaning.

Look, this thread is a little oasis for you guys that DON'T back Romo. You are outnumberd at least 7-8 to 1 overall on this board though...just not this thread.
Run any poll and see the outcome. I'm not even saying a majority makes anythng right. But don't say you are actually in the majority.
Not even close.
People just get weary of responding to this stuff.

Fixed my post

Oh well, the OP did ask for anti-Romo folks to come out, so no one can really complain that they did. For that reason, the original purpose of the OP may have backfired.

 

[KJJ]

Look, this thread is a little oasis for you guys that back Romo. You are outnumberd at least 7-8 to 1 overall on this board though.

But just because you say you have stats that support your "facts" does not make it true. You spend a lot of time using selective stats to support your thoughts and then ignore the general stats that disprove it because your stats, of course, have more meaning.

If you read the title of this thread it's suppose to be a gathering for the so called Romo haters. The homers outnumber the realists on this board by at least 3-1. If you check some of the polls that were posted last season on how the Cowboys would fair during games and for the season you'll see the realists were correct most of the time. Stats, facts and game film make it all true it's part of Romo's history. Just about every NFL expert out there has pointed out the same exact things I have about Romo and the apologists on this board disagree with them. The only ones who use selective stats are Romo apologists. The stats they use are to point the finger of blame on other areas of the team and not hold Romo accountable for any of the teams failures in Dec/Jan.

 

[ufcrules1]

I would agree that we are in the minority on this forum. That is ok though, just about everyone else will come around in time. Same way they did with Barber, Newman, Choice, etc. They will never admit they were wrong and will always hate the ones who were right to begin with.

In the meantime I will pull for the Cowboys and Romo just like I always do and hope and pray for the best.

 

[DFWJC]

If you read the title of this thread it's suppose to be a gathering for the so called Romo haters. .

Yeah, it was supposed to say for those that "don't" back Romo. I corrected it I hope.
Misprint.

 

[KJJ]

Fixed my post

Oh well, the OP did ask for anti-Romo folks to come out, so no one can really complain that they did. For that reason, the original purpose of the OP may have backfired.

Just to make it perfectly clear I'm NOT anti-Romo no matter how hard some here try to spin that I am.

 

[ufcrules1]

Actually, KJJ, I agree with some of your posts.

You say you agree with some of his posts but you never say what you agree with. You are scared to join the dark side aren't you? :laugh2:

 

[DandyDon1722]

In the meantime I will pull for the Cowboys and Romo just like I always do and hope and pray for the best.

And THAT...is the bottom line. We will all be proven either right or wrong. Let's let it play out and see what happens.

 

[ufcrules1]

And THAT...is the bottom line. We will all be proven either right or wrong. Let's let it play out and see what happens.

I completely agree with that. I will gladly admit if I was wrong too...actually, I REALLY hope I am wrong. I just hope the homers can do the same. So far, I rarely see them admit when they are wrong.

 

[DFWJC]

You say you agree with some of his posts but you never say what you agree with. You are scared to join the dark side aren't you? :laugh2:

:laugh2:
Oh no you don't.

He just points out some selective facts that I agree with. Plus I am in the camp that will not call Romo "elite".

I differ b/c I think he is very close to elite and is progressing in that direction. But already think he is more than good enough to take us to the SB.
I'm way more in the Romo camp than out of it, obviously.

 

[ufcrules1]

:laugh2:
Oh no you don't.

He just points out some selective facts that I agree with. Plus I am in the camp that will not call Romo "elite".

I differ b/c I think he is very close to elite and is progressing in that direction. But already think he is more than good enough to take us to the SB.
I'm way more in the Romo camp than out of it, obviously.

Well, I commend you for not calling him elite. I wasn't always on the realist side of the coin with Romo either... but over time I started looking at him in a different light and realized I was wrong. He has a propensity to choke at the most inopportune times and he isn't much of a leader either. He IS elite at times but you never know when the other Romo is going to come out. No way we win a superbowl with him if he can't maintain solid play in the post season... or even when our season is on the line to get to the post season.

 

[Joshmil53]

Well, I commend you for not calling him elite. I wasn't always on the realist side of the coin with Romo either... but over time I started looking at him in a different light and realized I was wrong. He has a propensity to choke at the most inopportune times and he isn't much of a leader either. He IS elite at times but you never know when the other Romo is going to come out. No way we win a superbowl with him if he can't maintain solid play in the post season... or even when our season is on the line to get to the post season.

Are you seriously saying he didn't play well down the stretch?

 

[DFWJC]

Are you seriously saying he didn't play well down the stretch?

There are a couple of guys here that keep saying that. I'm thinking, "who were you watching then?"
Clearly selective memory at work.

 

[KJJ]

There are a couple of guys here that keep saying that. I'm thinking, "who were you watching then?"
Clearly selective memory at work.

I'm certainly not one of them Romo played well down the stretch last season everything I've posted has to do with the seasons where he clearly didn't play well down the stretch.

 

[KJJ]

For those who think I'm a Romo hater (the ones who do clearly don't read my posts or have an agenda) here's a link to a post I made a week ago defending him. I have a lot of posts on this board defending Romo but naturally those posts don't make any waves. It's only when I and a few others mention his negatives that all hell breaks loose. lol

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4481858#post4481858

 

[ufcrules1]

Are you seriously saying he didn't play well down the stretch?

No, that is not what I was saying. He did play well this year down the stretch (Except for against Arizona) but others years he has fallen apart down the stretch and he has NEVER led his team anywhere in the post season which REALLY matters.

 

[Vtwin]

Look, we disagree on virtually everything I'm not going to continue wasting my time this is going nowhere. .

:laugh2: :laugh1:

See you in the next Romo thread.

 

[KJJ]

:laugh2: :laugh1:

See you in the next Romo thread.

Well hopefully the next big Romo thread won't be until February 3rd 2013 immediately after SB XLVII with all of us coming together as fans singing his praise after watching him set SB records for yards, TD's and completion percentage and being named SB MVP.


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[DFWJC]

Well hopefully the next big Romo thread won't be until February 3rd 2013 immediately after SB XLVII with all of us coming together as fans singing his praise after watching him set SB records for yards, TD's and completion percentage and being named SB MVP.


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ray: :beer2: :cheers:

 

[ufcrules1]

Well hopefully the next big Romo thread won't be until February 3rd 2013 immediately after SB XLVII with all of us coming together as fans singing his praise after watching him set SB records for yards, TD's and completion percentage and being named SB MVP.


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I see what you did there.