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[CCBoy]

The problem with being a realist, is that you don't know what the season will turn out to be. Do you think NY really thought they had a SB caliber team before training camp even began? I bet a lot of their coaches were already looking ahead to the next draft half way thru the season. How about the Cowboys heading into 2015? I seriously doubt they were expecting that after going 12-4.

It's smart to strategize for the long term, but you always have to put your best options for success on the field. You just never know what's going to happen.

Yea, someone should have booed every time that a Texas Ranger got knocked down and merely got up and continued mission...

 

[ShiningStar]

Simply, you have no clue as to why someone would commit to or follow the sport. Wearing paper sacks from being ashamed of the product, does not include sportsmanship.

Negative hype is a much wore waste of effort and support...with that kind of support, stick to being a Playtex bra. (it's known for a different type of support)

Say what you like, but you cant argue the facts. 20 plus years with no SB or appearance . You cant deny at some point we have had a talented team or two and nothing came of it, even with HFA on our side. Care to argue at times, the offense was good the defense was bad, or vice versa? How about some drafts? Pick the poison you want to argue, ill be happy to point out the record. Heck, want to play the stat game, sure fire up the stats, oh wait, the only one that matters, we cant produce.

At the end of the Dallas as to look upon itself and fix it. Let me ask the people another question to dodge, will we or will we not get a parade if we play Orlando Scandrick this year? Will he get another year younger? Should we carry him and pay him? If we dont get a parade or a medal and he doesnt get younger, should he stand there and hold up his replacement? Let him play as well.

If the FO really believes in all this, play the players, you are not getting anything for it record wise, but the player will pick up the experience and knowledge that classrooms cant give. The same reason i screamed, play Dak. No class room, no college, nothing was going to prep him for the field and all he would see. Play the players now, because tomorrow will be here before you know it. Expecting it to come and not doing anyhting about it has not helped. Starting Witten isnt getting you to the SB. Play the young players now and let them learn for next year.

All my questions are up top, take one and try to answer it, have at it. The results are the same. I dont care and neitehr does the league if you go 16-0 in the season, because everyone starts 0-0 for the play offs. Your stats dont mean anything and as Garrett had to learn, your record means nothing. 1 loss and your done. at the end of the season no owner is taking any stat and saying "you know what? we lost, but you held Time of Possesion so well in the regular season, we just gotta extend you. I mean seriously, at least you have a stat to say "this stat kept my job" and that TOP really mattered when we lost" Trust me, you wont hear it. (ok, i admit, i dont know how the Bengals HC keeps his job, or Fisher, those two elude me, but most others, no, you wont hear a stat saving their jobs.

Like Tony Romo, throw up all the stats you want, at the end of the day they are going to point to your hand and say "denied", and you know, it wont matter, because at the end of his career, Eli got 2 and Romo got none. Doesnt matter how you get them. Bennett has one, thats all that matters at the end of the year. Feel free to think it over.

 

[xwalker]

enjoying this time of year. Its refreshing. I think I have read no less than 5 articles today draft picks, rookie free agents even practice squad guy who will impact cowboys this year. If any writer is paying attention, can you write me feel good story on Chaz Green. Nick Eatman already has said he looks like TE now that he has dropped alot of weight. But I need more. Tell me how he becomes dominant at RT. Lie to me. I handle it.

Chaz Green started 2 games at LT last season. He was really good. Better than Doug Free's career best game.

His issue is being injured too often.

 

[Techsass]

Say what you like, but you cant argue the facts. 20 plus years with no SB or appearance . You cant deny at some point we have had a talented team or two and nothing came of it, even with HFA on our side. Care to argue at times, the offense was good the defense was bad, or vice versa? How about some drafts? Pick the poison you want to argue, ill be happy to point out the record. Heck, want to play the stat game, sure fire up the stats, oh wait, the only one that matters, we cant produce.

At the end of the Dallas as to look upon itself and fix it. Let me ask the people another question to dodge, will we or will we not get a parade if we play Orlando Scandrick this year? Will he get another year younger? Should we carry him and pay him? If we dont get a parade or a medal and he doesnt get younger, should he stand there and hold up his replacement? Let him play as well.

If the FO really believes in all this, play the players, you are not getting anything for it record wise, but the player will pick up the experience and knowledge that classrooms cant give. The same reason i screamed, play Dak. No class room, no college, nothing was going to prep him for the field and all he would see. Play the players now, because tomorrow will be here before you know it. Expecting it to come and not doing anyhting about it has not helped. Starting Witten isnt getting you to the SB. Play the young players now and let them learn for next year.

All my questions are up top, take one and try to answer it, have at it. The results are the same. I dont care and neitehr does the league if you go 16-0 in the season, because everyone starts 0-0 for the play offs. Your stats dont mean anything and as Garrett had to learn, your record means nothing. 1 loss and your done. at the end of the season no owner is taking any stat and saying "you know what? we lost, but you held Time of Possesion so well in the regular season, we just gotta extend you. I mean seriously, at least you have a stat to say "this stat kept my job" and that TOP really mattered when we lost" Trust me, you wont hear it. (ok, i admit, i dont know how the Bengals HC keeps his job, or Fisher, those two elude me, but most others, no, you wont hear a stat saving their jobs.

Like Tony Romo, throw up all the stats you want, at the end of the day they are going to point to your hand and say "denied", and you know, it wont matter, because at the end of his career, Eli got 2 and Romo got none. Doesnt matter how you get them. Bennett has one, thats all that matters at the end of the year. Feel free to think it over.

Look I get your point, but you can't run an organization like that. When you suck you know you're in a 2-3 year rebuild mode, so what's the point? When you just went 13-3 you're in more of a tweak it mode. Yes I know the D wasn't play off ready & may still not get there this season, but they might be good enough to beat whoever we face next winter.

We're still an offense 1st team. That's where our bread is buttered & I think we're going to give even good defenses fits. The D doesn't have to be stellar. They just need to keep the other team from scoring more than we score. And if we're averaging close to 30 a game, it's not crazy to ride with your best players.

The unknown, but also very possible outcome is if our rookies actually win the starting job.

 

[Idgit]

sure, because umm, after 20 plus years, we are Sb bound already LOL. I mean is it sooooo out of the realm of reality for a organization to tell teh fans, "we beleive in this, this is what we drafted and we believe in it. its not happening this year, lets face it, we have had better teams than we have right now and they couldnt do it. Ok, thats fair, but we believe in this, we believe in our draft and our plan. We arent making teh Sb this year, we all know that, but , you give us one year, one year and we ll change how you see the Dallas Cowboys"

Ok, to be fair to you, you might need to hear "we are SB bound, we are the best ever" i get it, maybe you dont fully understand or maybe you jsut need to hear it. But if the past 20 years have not shown you anything (depending on when you became a fan) this year is NOT shocking anyone except those that need to hear "we are SB bound, we are the best ever, we are going to rule the NFC East" you might need to hear it because well, you just havent learned yet.

I have learned and i understand after watching this organization for many years, notice i dindt say team.

Ok, so now im going to shock you with my big brain. Dallas isnt doing it this year. I know I know, you ll be on the ledge, maybe crying into your phone to your buds down at the malt shoppe. I get it. but believe me, its not going to shock anyone whos been a cowboys fans for a long time.

That said. IF the tema believes in this, and i hope they do, i really do, Play everyone, play them this year and get them ready for next year. What is so wrong iwth that, you have had 20 plus years of medocirty to pure crap. What, do you really need someone to hold your hand and lie to you? Its ok, they are going to be SB champs this year. Ok now back to reality. PLay the damned rookies and put forth everything into next year. This year is over. its been over for 20 plus years, if you didint realize that, maybe find another team.

There's a huge gap between 'expecting your team will win a Superbowl' and 'believing you have a team capable of contending for a Supberbowl.' As probabilities for these things go, Dallas is in pretty good shape right now. Not as probable as some, more probable than most.

And it doesn't take special insight into football to see that winning a Superbowl is a low-probability event and to bet against it happening for any given team in any given year. The fun of watching the game is when your team defies probabilities and wins.

If you've got once chance in 12 of something happening in a good year, and it doesn't happen it's still because it was unlikely in the first place. Sure, you can hang out for a team that's good enough that it gets one chance is 6 or 7 at the outset. I'd argue that that doesn't mean that you'e all that much more realistic. It just means you don't really understand the probabilities well enough to get that they're still not really in your favor because that's how the NFL works.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Chaz Green started 2 games at LT last season. He was really good. Better than Doug Free's career best game.

His issue is being injured too often.

Exactly

 

[ShiningStar]

Look I get your point, but you can't run an organization like that. When you suck you know you're in a 2-3 year rebuild mode, so what's the point? When you just went 13-3 you're in more of a tweak it mode. Yes I know the D wasn't play off ready & may still not get there this season, but they might be good enough to beat whoever we face next winter.

We're still an offense 1st team. That's where our bread is buttered & I think we're going to give even good defenses fits. The D doesn't have to be stellar. They just need to keep the other team from scoring more than we score. And if we're averaging close to 30 a game, it's not crazy to ride with your best players.

The unknown, but also very possible outcome is if our rookies actually win the starting job.

So hanging on to guys to slow up your future is your road to success? got it.

For me, im not bothering with guys who may not be here in a year or 3. When you go through the draft, it better be for the long haul. That haul is now and that success starts now. We arent going to win on Scandrick or Witten, (both drafted by us and not through FA) but its time to see if we have a new TE and slot CB. This year isnt going to do it. Plan for the future and let those guys play now.

 

[CCBoy]

So hanging on to guys to slow up your future is your road to success? got it.

For me, im not bothering with guys who may not be here in a year or 3. When you go through the draft, it better be for the long haul. That haul is now and that success starts now. We arent going to win on Scandrick or Witten, (both drafted by us and not through FA) but its time to see if we have a new TE and slot CB. This year isnt going to do it. Plan for the future and let those guys play now.

Just what is an annual NFL average turnover of about 1/3 rd of one's roster, supposed to look like, judgement.

If the Cowboys are able to retain more due to good personnel selection and cap management, what would THAT then say about Dallas?

 

[ShiningStar]

Just what is an annual NFL average turnover of about 1/3 rd of one's roster, supposed to look like, judgement.

If the Cowboys are able to retain more due to good personnel selection and cap management, what would THAT then say about Dallas?

let me know when it gets you a winning team, until than, slash what you want, are we really going to hurt if Scandrick doesnt make an interception or two? Will we be let down if Crawford doesnt get close to the QB? Whats the downside? Another year of doing nothing?

 

[CCBoy]

let me know when it gets you a winning team, until than, slash what you want, are we really going to hurt if Scandrick doesnt make an interception or two? Will we be let down if Crawford doesnt get close to the QB? Whats the downside? Another year of doing nothing?

I'm not even going to accept a snapshot that everything about the Cowboys is pure crap until there is a NEW Lombardi sitting on the table...a middle of the NFL defense that has been improved, and a top 5 offense still means something...no matter how blind a person chooses to be and talk.

 

[ShiningStar]

I'm not even going to accept a snapshot that everything about the Cowboys is pure crap until there is a NEW Lombardi sitting on the table...a middle of the NFL defense that has been improved, and a top 5 offense still means something...no matter how blind a person chooses to be and talk.

im not either and im not saying that.

again, if the FO believes in this plan and i applaud that they stuck to it. Ok that done, why not play the players? What is so wrong with taking 1 year, (keep in mind its been a 20 year trend) and saying we are getting ready for next year? What is so wrong with playing the players now? What is so wrong of letting vets slow down, play a few less plays, or start helping the next players ready? Again, are we going to be worried if Crawford doesnt get sacks? Are we going to win a trophy if we keep players who arent going to make a difference in 1 or 2 years? Should we kid some vets and our fans by saying "its very important we start witten every game, its just essential to this organization" ? What is the big problem? What will be the nuclear fallout? Tell me? Will the sun burn out?

I say play the players. let them learn, let them get ready. let them make their mistakes this year and go forward with this plan. if we win great, if not, whats the huge loss that we cant fathom and history will label us scared of? Nothing.

Play the players and believe in your plan.

 

[CCBoy]

im not either and im not saying that.

again, if the FO believes in this plan and i applaud that they stuck to it. Ok that done, why not play the players? What is so wrong with taking 1 year, (keep in mind its been a 20 year trend) and saying we are getting ready for next year? What is so wrong with playing the players now? What is so wrong of letting vets slow down, play a few less plays, or start helping the next players ready? Again, are we going to be worried if Crawford doesnt get sacks? Are we going to win a trophy if we keep players who arent going to make a difference in 1 or 2 years? Should we kid some vets and our fans by saying "its very important we start witten every game, its just essential to this organization" ? What is the big problem? What will be the nuclear fallout? Tell me? Will the sun burn out?

I say play the players. let them learn, let them get ready. let them make their mistakes this year and go forward with this plan. if we win great, if not, whats the huge loss that we cant fathom and history will label us scared of? Nothing.

Play the players and believe in your plan.

No matter how many unrelated points you may conjecture...you aren't even in the discussion presented. I don't care if the Pope becomes Protestant or studies Hebrew.

Take your mantra, locate Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and get in tune with your Transcendental Meditations...

 

[Bullflop]

im not either and im not saying that.

again, if the FO believes in this plan and i applaud that they stuck to it. Ok that done, why not play the players? What is so wrong with taking 1 year, (keep in mind its been a 20 year trend) and saying we are getting ready for next year? What is so wrong with playing the players now? What is so wrong of letting vets slow down, play a few less plays, or start helping the next players ready? Again, are we going to be worried if Crawford doesnt get sacks? Are we going to win a trophy if we keep players who arent going to make a difference in 1 or 2 years? Should we kid some vets and our fans by saying "its very important we start witten every game, its just essential to this organization" ? What is the big problem? What will be the nuclear fallout? Tell me? Will the sun burn out?

I say play the players. let them learn, let them get ready. let them make their mistakes this year and go forward with this plan. if we win great, if not, whats the huge loss that we cant fathom and history will label us scared of? Nothing.

Play the players and believe in your plan.

If you were somehow to be hired as our GM and saw fit to fulfill everything you recommend here, in all probability, you wouldn't last to see a second year. GMs and coaches are duty bound to produce the best record possible for any given year. Your ideas would get them fired.

 

[CCBoy]

If you were somehow to be hired as our GM and saw fit to fulfill everything you recommend here, in all probability, you wouldn't last to see a second year. GMs and coaches are duty bound to produce the best record possible for any given year. Your ideas would get them fired.[/QUOTE)



...something about being dedicated to winning with what you do have. That's called sport, and the fan side of that...sportsmanship

 

[xwalker]

If you were somehow to be hired as our GM and saw fit to fulfill everything you recommend here, in all probability, you wouldn't last to see a second year. GMs and coaches are duty bound to produce the best record possible for any given year. Your ideas would get them fired.

He is just looking for attention.

 

[NotForLong]

Say what you like, but you cant argue the facts. 20 plus years with no SB or appearance . You cant deny at some point we have had a talented team or two and nothing came of it, even with HFA on our side. Care to argue at times, the offense was good the defense was bad, or vice versa? How about some drafts? Pick the poison you want to argue, ill be happy to point out the record. Heck, want to play the stat game, sure fire up the stats, oh wait, the only one that matters, we cant produce.

At the end of the Dallas as to look upon itself and fix it. Let me ask the people another question to dodge, will we or will we not get a parade if we play Orlando Scandrick this year? Will he get another year younger? Should we carry him and pay him? If we dont get a parade or a medal and he doesnt get younger, should he stand there and hold up his replacement? Let him play as well.

If the FO really believes in all this, play the players, you are not getting anything for it record wise, but the player will pick up the experience and knowledge that classrooms cant give. The same reason i screamed, play Dak. No class room, no college, nothing was going to prep him for the field and all he would see. Play the players now, because tomorrow will be here before you know it. Expecting it to come and not doing anyhting about it has not helped. Starting Witten isnt getting you to the SB. Play the young players now and let them learn for next year.

All my questions are up top, take one and try to answer it, have at it. The results are the same. I dont care and neitehr does the league if you go 16-0 in the season, because everyone starts 0-0 for the play offs. Your stats dont mean anything and as Garrett had to learn, your record means nothing. 1 loss and your done. at the end of the season no owner is taking any stat and saying "you know what? we lost, but you held Time of Possesion so well in the regular season, we just gotta extend you. I mean seriously, at least you have a stat to say "this stat kept my job" and that TOP really mattered when we lost" Trust me, you wont hear it. (ok, i admit, i dont know how the Bengals HC keeps his job, or Fisher, those two elude me, but most others, no, you wont hear a stat saving their jobs.

Like Tony Romo, throw up all the stats you want, at the end of the day they are going to point to your hand and say "denied", and you know, it wont matter, because at the end of his career, Eli got 2 and Romo got none. Doesnt matter how you get them. Bennett has one, thats all that matters at the end of the year. Feel free to think it over.

Is it me or am I missing something?

Should I believe practicing and playing along side a scrappy talented vet like Scandrick will not in any way benefit the rooks. Come on get real. Scandrick will be an invaluable teacher which will help in the development.

Are you saying we should dump all our veteran role players because we have no shot of a Super Bowl this year. (By what evaluation makes you so certain of this preconceived notion)

Besides its the journey thats exciting not the destination. Those 3 trophies in the 70s were nice, but I witnessed and remembered the 90s. Thats more real to me .

Go ahead drop Witten Texans may pick him up ( And win a superbowl)
Go ahead drop Scandrick Patriots may add him (And win a super bowl)
But its all good Cowboys werent going to the big show this year.

PS. Let us know which year exactly we are going to the Super Bowl. That way Jerry and Co wont have to get rid of all the VETERAN ROLE PLAYERS

 

[Bullflop]

He is just looking for attention.

That does appear to be an actual objective, other than simply being a hopeless pessimist and/or malcontent.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

im not either and im not saying that.

again, if the FO believes in this plan and i applaud that they stuck to it. Ok that done, why not play the players? What is so wrong with taking 1 year, (keep in mind its been a 20 year trend) and saying we are getting ready for next year? What is so wrong with playing the players now? What is so wrong of letting vets slow down, play a few less plays, or start helping the next players ready? Again, are we going to be worried if Crawford doesnt get sacks? Are we going to win a trophy if we keep players who arent going to make a difference in 1 or 2 years? Should we kid some vets and our fans by saying "its very important we start witten every game, its just essential to this organization" ? What is the big problem? What will be the nuclear fallout? Tell me? Will the sun burn out?

I say play the players. let them learn, let them get ready. let them make their mistakes this year and go forward with this plan. if we win great, if not, whats the huge loss that we cant fathom and history will label us scared of? Nothing.

Play the players and believe in your plan.

You know, I wouldn't mind your plan if we didn't go 13-3 last year with this roster. Teams in football just can't and don't tank like the NBA though, too many players are needed to make the team good. In the NBA, the tank works cause you could add just one guy and make a franchise.

In the NFL, you better take advantage while you can cause of the amount of injuries and short careers of NFL players. I understand you are thinking to take a step back in order to take a step forward, but in the NFL you might never get a chance again if you do that.

 

[StarBoyz83]

I don't think they can expect immediate impact from any rookie let alone a 7th round guy.

 

[ShiningStar]

You know, I wouldn't mind your plan if we didn't go 13-3 last year with this roster. Teams in football just can't and don't tank like the NBA though, too many players are needed to make the team good. In the NBA, the tank works cause you could add just one guy and make a franchise.

In the NFL, you better take advantage while you can cause of the amount of injuries and short careers of NFL players. I understand you are thinking to take a step back in order to take a step forward, but in the NFL you might never get a chance again if you do that.

I would agree with you, and you are right, if this was yesteryear, but in the era of parity, do you think its worth a shot?