Can Gregory play at current weight?

viman96

Thread Killer
Messages
21,555
Reaction score
22,657
Willie McGinest said he weighed 246 - 248 lbs when they filmed Game Changers for NFLN.
 

reddyuta

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,515
Reaction score
17,236
something Norm said worried me,he seems to be Bipolar and i dont know if he is on Meds.the anxiety seems to be one of the reason he cant stay off the maryjane.
 

Yakuza Rich

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,043
Reaction score
12,385
Yes, I do.

Watching him on video, he was much better against the run that I thought. In fact, I thought he needed to be better at zone stretch plays away from him than at the point of attack.

But, this is a pass oriented league and this defense is about getting upfield. What he really needs to work on is better hand technique and being able to get more lateral side bend when speed rushing. But, I think he has the body to do that.

What's going to probably happen is that they are going to work to transform his body from day 1. He will probably have a learning curve of dealing with the body changes and the NFL and by 2016, we will see a totally different player.

While we struggle to keep guys healthy, the training staff has been great at transforming players' bodies over the years to make them better football players. The transformation of Leary, Wilcox and Randle last year are great examples.





YR
 

Nova

Ntegrase96
Messages
10,699
Reaction score
12,659
Yes, I do.

Watching him on video, he was much better against the run that I thought. In fact, I thought he needed to be better at zone stretch plays away from him than at the point of attack.

But, this is a pass oriented league and this defense is about getting upfield. What he really needs to work on is better hand technique and being able to get more lateral side bend when speed rushing. But, I think he has the body to do that.

What's going to probably happen is that they are going to work to transform his body from day 1. He will probably have a learning curve of dealing with the body changes and the NFL and by 2016, we will see a totally different player.

While we struggle to keep guys healthy, the training staff has been great at transforming players' bodies over the years to make them better football players. The transformation of Leary, Wilcox and Randle last year are great examples.





YR

I kind of worry about him adding weight because of possible health issues that may arise. Like, I can't say it for certain but I felt like a big reason Crawford tore his Achilles was because they had him bulk up too quickly.

But I guess like you say, the training staff are experts and can probably have him playing safe at any weight.
 

erod

Well-Known Member
Messages
38,705
Reaction score
60,327
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
something Norm said worried me,he seems to be Bipolar and i dont know if he is on Meds.the anxiety seems to be one of the reason he cant stay off the maryjane.

Incredibly irresponsible reporting going on. Bipolarity is very difficult diagnose, and he hasn't been diagnosed with it. Media likes to play doctor.

He has emotional issues, and possible mental issues.

He plays like Aldon Smith. Dallas hopes he won't be like the other side of Aldon Smith.
 
Last edited:

DallasDomination

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,791
Reaction score
6,205
When people say mental issues I think of something bad.. the guy is bipolar? OK sure, I've seen some successful bipolar people out there. He'll be fine if he wants to be. If not he'll be out of the league in due time. High reward low risk if you ask me.
 

TheCount

Pixel Pusher
Messages
25,523
Reaction score
8,849
Incredibly irresponsible reporting going on. Bipolarity is very difficult diagnose, and he hasn't been diagnosed with it. Media likes to play doctor.

He has emotional issues, and possible mental issues.

He plays like Aldon Smith. Dallas hopes he won't be like the other side of Aldon Smith.

I don't think anyone has confirmed "emotional" or "mental" issues either really, to be honest.
 

Marktui

Active Member
Messages
1,206
Reaction score
14
There are a lot of question marks surrounding this guy, but I want to focus on his playing weight a bit.

Does anyone think this guy can be an innovative, situational type pass rusher at 235lbs?

Personally, I'm starting to warm up to the idea due to where he was drafted-- great talent, but not great opportunity cost, so limited role may be okay.

Take for instance, undersized pass rushersike Von Miller and Bruce Irvin-- hybrid type guys that can get after the QB. Could that be Gregory?

What do you guys think?

This season will be all about refining his technique and getting him to be a better pass rusher. I could see him putting on about 10-15 pounds more, but his frame can only take so much. He is built similar to Jevon Kearse. He needs to get stronger and use his reach to his advantage. Too many times he let the blocker get into his chest which nullified him. Lett, Bloom and Rod will coach him up well. Plus the time he is on the field watching Hardy is valuable.
 

Nova

Ntegrase96
Messages
10,699
Reaction score
12,659
This season will be all about refining his technique and getting him to be a better pass rusher. I could see him putting on about 10-15 pounds more, but his frame can only take so much. He is built similar to Jevon Kearse. He needs to get stronger and use his reach to his advantage. Too many times he let the blocker get into his chest which nullified him. Lett, Bloom and Rod will coach him up well. Plus the time he is on the field watching Hardy is valuable.

Yeah I guess that's kind of what I'm hoping for. I hope they don't try to make him into something he isn't by packing on pounds and ruining what he has going.

I'm interested in the idea that his size, as is, would make for a unique dynamic as a situational edge rusher. Too quickly we write off guys as too small-- I'm wondering if he can be an innovative 'new breed' suited to today's pass heavy league.
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
He said on the Cowboys Draft show he plans to get his weight up, around 245-250lbs. Anyways, he will prob only play on passing downs. Not used as a runs stopper.
I feel comfortable that by mid-season he'll be on the field as much as any DE not named Hardy. That means 1st downs, 2nd downs and 3rd downs.
 

canters

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,676
Reaction score
2,124
When people say mental issues I think of something bad.. the guy is bipolar? OK sure, I've seen some successful bipolar people out there. He'll be fine if he wants to be. If not he'll be out of the league in due time. High reward low risk if you ask me.

Thanks. You right on. I wonder if he got poor or no treatment for the disorder and the weed became a crutch over time.
 
Last edited:

Corso

Offseason mode... sleepy time
Messages
34,769
Reaction score
63,196
Thanks. You right on. I wonder if he good treatment for the disorder and the weed became a crutch over time.

I can believe it. I have a good friend and a family member both diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and I know the drugs that were to prescribed to both of them.
They both preferred medical marijuana over those psychoactive emotion inhibitors and now both of them claim they can't live without it.

I honestly don't blame them. Those drugs they give to those poor people are awful.
 

ConstantReboot

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,405
Reaction score
10,074
I honestly could care less about weight. The main thing is that he can get to the QB. If he plays at 230-240 and can get to the QB than who cares.

Honestly, I think he can play a role like Von Miller. Be a situational passrushing DE or a linebacker. He has the quickness and agility as a linebacker and from the film he has underrated strength.
 

jnday

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,292
Reaction score
11,422
Haley was drafted 30 years ago and last played for the Cowboys when Bill Clinton was still in his first term.

OLs are bigger now.

I don't disagree that Gregory can be an effective pass rusher at a low weight, however, I do question whether he can be an every-down 4-3 DE at that weight. The good news is they don't need him to be a every-down DE in 2015.

Check the size of the 1990's Cowboys line. Haley practiced against them Dailey.
 

speedkilz88

Well-Known Member
Messages
36,953
Reaction score
23,102
Yeah, I believe Tuinei was 6-5 314, Newton 6-3 335 at least, BigE 6-5 325, Gogan 6-7 320 at least, LA 6-3 325 at least. Big OL have been around awhile.
 

TrailBlazer

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,841
Reaction score
3,525
This guy will be a real stud. He can maintain 250. Stout against the run too. It's the bipolar stuff that worries me.
 

Maxmadden

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,143
Reaction score
4,369
Yeah I guess that's kind of what I'm hoping for. I hope they don't try to make him into something he isn't by packing on pounds and ruining what he has going.

I'm interested in the idea that his size, as is, would make for a unique dynamic as a situational edge rusher. Too quickly we write off guys as too small-- I'm wondering if he can be an innovative 'new breed' suited to today's pass heavy league.

I was curious about this also. Today's Tackles are huge but at some point they have to be too big, and someone with elite quickness could exploit them. I'm not worried about his weight, the Cowboys will assign him a nutritionist and besides, the kid is only 22 years old. He is naturally going to get bigger.
 
Top