Can Rivera play right tackle?

[Eddie]

I love these assumptions. Let's take a Pro Bowl player and move him to another position. Yep, that makes sense. As if all NFL positions were interchangeable.

Reminds me of the movement to move Dat to FS.

Or Larry Allen to DT.

This is nonsense.

We paid Rivera $10 Mil to be a Pro Bowl GUARD. Not a Guard converted to Tackle. The tools are NOT interchangeable.

I have some better ones ... how about:

Flo to Kicker
Hensen to WR
Ware to RB
Ferguson to RT

Amazing what our imaginations come up with. I'm sure BP sits at home dreaming up these conceptions also.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Or Larry Allen to DT.

Early in his career he could have been a great DT with his speed, for his size, and strength but that was 10 yrs ago.

 

[junk]

I love these assumptions. Let's take a Pro Bowl player and move him to another position. Yep, that makes sense. As if all NFL positions were interchangeable.

Reminds me of the movement to move Dat to FS.

Or Larry Allen to DT.

This is nonsense.

We paid Rivera $10 Mil to be a Pro Bowl GUARD. Not a Guard converted to Tackle. The tools are NOT interchangeable.

I have some better ones ... how about:

Flo to Kicker
Hensen to WR
Ware to RB
Ferguson to RT

Amazing what our imaginations come up with. I'm sure BP sits at home dreaming up these conceptions also.

Although there have been some ridiculous ideas thrown out, you are just being silly here.

OL switch all the time. Its not that uncommon.

 

[Zaxor]

I love these assumptions. Let's take a Pro Bowl player and move him to another position. Yep, that makes sense. As if all NFL positions were interchangeable.

Reminds me of the movement to move Dat to FS.

Or Larry Allen to DT.

This is nonsense.

We paid Rivera $10 Mil to be a Pro Bowl GUARD. Not a Guard converted to Tackle. The tools are NOT interchangeable.

I have some better ones ... how about:

Flo to Kicker
Hensen to WR
Ware to RB
Ferguson to RT

Amazing what our imaginations come up with. I'm sure BP sits at home dreaming up these conceptions also.

I agree Eddie I do not like the idea of changing too many things around especially if they are established

Now its another story if injuries make it necessary

 

[Doomsday101]

Rivera is a Pro Bowl gaurd leave him where he is at, I think Dallas will do fine with the current group of tackles on the team.

 

[Alexander]

There has been not one single mention of Flo moving to RT this year. It must be awfully "secret."

There is a point here though.

Parcells enjoys doing the unexpected and he foreshadowed a move and said it was not what you think.

So, what does everyone think first? Larry Allen to RT.

The most obvious answer is probably wrong.

I like the idea of moving Adams out there. He does have problems with speed rushers and this would eliminate alot of that. But again there is the deaf issue.

But above everything else, it would be nice to see our second round choice from last year actually earn his paycheck.

I would try it in the preseason to see how it works out. We have nothing to lose.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

There is a point here though.

Parcells enjoys doing the unexpected and he foreshadowed a move and said it was not what you think.

So, what does everyone think first? Larry Allen to RT.

The most obvious answer is probably wrong.

I like the idea of moving Adams out there. He does have problems with speed rushers and this would eliminate alot of that. But again there is the deaf issue.

But above everything else, it would be nice to see our second round choice from last year actually earn his paycheck.

I would try it in the preseason to see how it works out. We have nothing to lose.

Well I just don't see him moving Flo over...but you do make a point that he told the media that nobody would guess what his move might be and then said for emphasis nobody.

Right after that every cowboys media guy started saying Allen....if it was that predictable I am not sure Bill would have said that to the media in the fashion he did....so in that respect you make an interesting point.

Still I find it hard to think he would move flo over there.


BTW...nice Henry Rollins AV.

 

[Alexander]

Well I just don't see him moving Flo over...but you do make a point that he told the media that nobody would guess what his move might be and then said for emphasis nobody.

Right after that every cowboys media guy started saying Allen....if it was that predictable I am not sure Bill would have said that to the media in the fashion he did....so in that respect you make an interesting point.

Still I find it hard to think he would move flo over there.


BTW...nice Henry Rollins AV.

That is why Coach Parcells is so intriguing.

But in relationship to the potential Allen move, it makes so little sense on so many levels if you consider his comments.

Why would we weaken our interior running game on the left side and just overload the right with Rivera? Our two strongest and best OL are our guards, why not shift the perimeter and get the best of both worlds?

The only way I think we would bother moving Allen is if Peterman is doing an outstanding job. I don't know how they could tell that after one minicamp.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I like the idea of moving Adams out there. He does have problems with speed rushers and this would eliminate alot of that. But again there is the deaf issue.

But above everything else, it would be nice to see our second round choice from last year actually earn his paycheck.

I would try it in the preseason to see how it works out. We have nothing to lose.

I think we have a lot to lose, and most seriously, time.

Last year we had the epitome of the mediocre coaching staff. Until otherwise proven, I am going to assume that integrating the new coaches, and the promoted/reassigned ones taking on new roles, is going to take enough time that ditzing around with 'experiments' will be put on the back burner.

Warhop's performance mandated he be let go. But he was an experienced oline coach. Sparano has those duties now, and in addition coordination of the entire running game. He has got to teach technique to rookie Pettiti, and the NFL way of doing things, and he has still relatively young players in Noll, Vollers, Walter, Tucker. He has to try to turn around Gurode, and spend time with him on center again. Johnson is only entering his second playing year as well.

He's lucky to have Flo, LA and Rivera, but the stability and experence they bring to line cohesion, the most important factor, and the element that has GOT to be built this summer, will be severely limited by a game of musical chairs.

I don't like it..any of this talk of taking good players out of their productive spot and diminishing their effect. The vets have to be so secure in what they do they can reach over and help the kids. I see any trifling with that mentoring ability/possibility as a recipe for disaster.

If Peterman, or Rogers, or anyone proves so adept this summer, they will see time in rotation, and if he is so impressive he should start, start him. You're not going to sit Rivera or LA for a glimmer in camp, but those older legs need a spelling in rotation. And if the wonderful event occurs there are too many good oline guys, trade them.

Camp is about earning spots, but also for establishing enough cohesion to have a chance on opening day..how about working on some screen,s some advanced pulling. Everyone needs to get evaluated, but that can't happen fast enough if too many projects are being worked on.

Maybe next year, when the coaching has proven itself...as well as the players.

 

[ravidubey]

Rivera is needed at right guard. Wahle was the Green Bay lineman who could play either guard or tackle position. Larry Allen can play any position now except maybe Left Tackle, which is bloody amazing. I'm expecting a huge year for LA and I hope he stays at guard.

 

[Tio]

Ware to RB

With his speed and size he would dominate like no other!!! You sure are a genuis!!!

 

[Alexander]

I don't like it..any of this talk of taking good players out of their productive spot and diminishing their effect. The vets have to be so secure in what they do they can reach over and help the kids. I see any trifling with that mentoring ability/possibility as a recipe for disaster.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for cohesion, chemistry and would like nothing better than to see one of the Vollers/Tucker/Petitti/Noll cluster win the RT job outright. But if we have poor results, I think Coach would have a quick hook as he promised.

Maybe next year, when the coaching has proven itself...as well as the players.

Tony Sparano will have a challenge if none of these RT candidates pulls it out.

 

[Verdict]

Well I just don't see him moving Flo over...but you do make a point that he told the media that nobody would guess what his move might be and then said for emphasis nobody.

Right after that every cowboys media guy started saying Allen....if it was that predictable I am not sure Bill would have said that to the media in the fashion he did....so in that respect you make an interesting point.

Still I find it hard to think he would move flo over there.


BTW...nice Henry Rollins AV.

With Parcells I would not rule anything out. People seem to take what he says sometimes metaphorically when he is literally saying what he means.

 

[Alexander]

People seem to take what he says sometimes metaphorically when he is literally saying what he means.

Especially when he repeats himself. When Coach Parcells does that, he pretty much believes what he says and it is money in the bank.

That and when he says, "Lookit" which means pay attention. "I promise you" which means "shut up and listen" and "okay" which means "get that dummy?".

The only time he seems to speak in riddles is if he is answering a question about whether or not he will continue coaching. That gets a little gray.

 

[ravidubey]

With Parcells I would not rule anything out. People seem to take what he says sometimes metaphorically when he is literally saying what he means.

This has been proven true so many times you would have thought the media would have had to have caught on by now.

But I never underestimate the power of silence and how it can drive the media and fans crazy.

Given silence, the media must speculate and print whatever provocative content they can come up with based on what they know, and then since there are so many media outlets they copy each others' stories or use them as input for new stories.

Pretty soon, the same speculative stuff has been recycled and has been used as the basis for other new speculations so much so that many fans and media alike assume many things to be true which are not true.

We all would be more accurate if we just listen to Bill and take him at his word. 3-4 would be the base defense, but he'll still run 4-3. He'll reduce Glover's play to 60%-- taken at his word this means the 4-3 will still be run more than 50% of the time-- don't be surprised when it happens.

He says his backup plan for RT will surprise everyone, and I'll bet it would.

 

[jobberone]

No it doesn't Jobber.

Rivera needs to stay at RG, because blitzed will be coming fast and furious up that middle at Bledsoe, and Johnson is gonna need help with them.

That's what I tried to say. Guess I didn't do too good of a job. I agree with you. He needs to anchor the interior with Allen and a steady Johnson.

 

[flashback]

There is a point here though.

Parcells enjoys doing the unexpected and he foreshadowed a move and said it was not what you think.

So, what does everyone think first? Larry Allen to RT.

The most obvious answer is probably wrong.

I like the idea of moving Adams out there. He does have problems with speed rushers and this would eliminate alot of that. But again there is the deaf issue.

But above everything else, it would be nice to see our second round choice from last year actually earn his paycheck.

I would try it in the preseason to see how it works out. We have nothing to lose.

Probably the least important fact in the thread, but Flozell is partially deaf in his right ear, so switching him to the right side would actually eliminate "the deaf issue", which, to the best of my knowledge, has never been an issue at all.